Broken_Erika
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And Condoms are pre-emptive murder!
Half of the US bans abortion. Then what?
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That's the reasoning, sure. But since they violate the Commandments and certainly behave in ways Jesus would not approve of to do it, it really comes down to their doing what they want because they want to.
And you totally know if men could get pregnant, you could get cheap express abortions at gas stations and drive-thrus.
The principle is that people are presumed to be free, unless there's a compelling public interest in restricting that freedom. The Constitution is not about the limits on the freedom of people, the Constitution is about the limits on the power of government. Things like Roe v. or Brown v. are fundamentally about saying "The government may not..." This is what makes it inherently ironic that conservatives want 'strict constructionist' judges. They do not want judges who say "The government may not...", they want judges who say "The government may..." Conservative judges are big government judges. Liberal judges are small government judges.
Now I don't think I'll ever be able to think of anal sex as anything other than "attempted homosexuality." Thanks for ruining my sex life, Sommerswerd.
Are you kidding me? We'd have figured out a fool-proof birth control method with no side effects centuries ago.
One of my proudest internet argumenting moments was when I got an anti-abortion pro-lifer to concede that they would in theory reluctantly accept safe and legal abortion, easy access to birth control, and women's health since I had been able to lead them through the reasoning that this results in fewer abortions. I didn't screenshot the convo - I should have.
I think between the harrumphs there is a "gun rights shouldn't be restricted" and a "abortion rights should be restricted" and a "because reasons" somewhere mixed in... but sure... fytes r dum.
This is like claiming you found Elvis riding a unicorn emerging from a UFO, but accidentally had your phone's camera reversed.
If they were capable of logical thought like that - hey, I hate abortions and wish no one ever had to have them, and I'd love if they never happened, but unfortunately they have to from time to time - then they're not really the same as the flaming whackjobs that massacre people outside abortion clinics and now sit on the SCOTUS.
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Most fights are are dumb. That's why they're fights. Dull wits with sharp tools.
I don't see many arguments for unrestricted simple access to the ownership of weaponry. I do see arguments that they should be accessible by default if they're sought out and that anonymity rather than registration is preferable. I do see some support for unrestricted subjective use of force via Stand Your Ground, but most of those idiots break with it when they see where it goes.
But this conversation is this conversation. Old hatreds, right? They're comfortable and every bit as smart as they ever were. Heads or Tails?
I don't see many arguments for unrestricted simple access to the ownership of weaponry. I do see arguments that they should be accessible by default if they're sought out and that anonymity rather than registration is preferable. I do see some support for unrestricted subjective use of force via Stand Your Ground, but most of those idiots break with it when they see where it goes.
But this conversation is this conversation. Old hatreds, right? They're comfortable and every bit as smart as they ever were. Heads or Tails?
LOL - my phone is an android and the camera takes a full 2 to 3 seconds to initialize. So your simile was pretty spot on! Also, the convo happened, like, 2 states away on an internet you've never heard of.
Yeah, my Android phone also takes a while to initialise. Funnily enough, it actually has great resolution, when it's working. Too bad I look like some sort of cross between an Uruk-Hai and a blobfish; not something you want to see in hi-def.
That was when you were talking to your boyfriend from Canada, no doubt. George, um, Computer-Monitor. I wouldn't know him, he goes to a different school.
Heads... always...
"No two days are quite the same
Life is just a learning game
And if you use you head you'll always win
Just like the Edison Twins"
When I was a kid I thought it said "If you pick the usual heads you'll always win", so I started always picking "heads".
"No two days are quite the sameLife is just a learning game
And if you use you head you'll always win
Just like the Edison Twins"
When I was a kid I thought it said "If you pick the usual heads you'll always win", so I started always picking "heads".
Love you too 
My camera is also very much a pain, even once it's ready for some reason I have to wait a couple seconds after pushing my shutter button for my picture to be taken. And my quality seems very poor, and also I need to take quite a few pictures of myself before I find one that's remotely acceptable, so I totally feel your pain lol.
I've for a long time said if someone's really trying to reduce abortions, you should be supporting things like:
I've for a long time said if someone's really trying to reduce abortions, you should be supporting things like:
- women having affordable access to healthcare, so carrying and delivering a baby won't financially ruin her
- universal access to post-secondary education, so she can still afford to go to school while caring for her new baby
- universal healthcare access, at least for children, so she knows her baby will be healthy
- stop threatening to take away programs like SNAP, because she may need help providing for her child
- offer supplementary support for childcare and daycare, so she can still go to school and work
- make laws protecting women with guaranteed maternity leave, so she can both have a job and survive pregnancy
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That happens to me as well. On many occasions I have taken a photo only to ruin it by moving my phone to look at the picture I've just taken... Before the phone has taken the picture. This usually results in a blurry picture of my feet or a wall or something.
The only picture of me that would ever be acceptable is a mugshot. And I am quite possibly the worst selfie-taker of all time - I have literally taken selfies with beautiful women and somehow made them look like troglodytes, and I know not how - so it likely wouldn't matter if I was using the best phone camera of all time, and had extensive plastic surgery to make myself look Ryan Gosling's cuter brother; the photo would still somehow suck.
You've hit the nail on the head. The pro-life crowd literally do the exact opposite of all these things. Because it isn't really about any moral aversion to abortion; that I could at least understand, if not agree with or respect. It's about a moral aversion to letting women have power, even if it is only over their own bodies and lives. Limit a woman's access to healthcare, limit her access to education, take aware any community programs that might help a woman exist outside of her man's control, limit a woman's access to the law for protection and support, and you have a nice little subservient underclass to make your sandwiches and birth your heirs.
And hey, if a woman wants to make sandwiches and pop out kids, I'm all for it; I like sandwiches, and I like kids (sometimes), and I'm honest enough to admit I grew up in such a way that I find it kind of difficult to not be in charge of any relationship I'm in. But it should be her choice, not something forced on her by society.
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