hg3: Plain Ol' Diety

Chunky Kong said:
Maybe we could send some troops to Egypt to actually get a foothold over there?

I'm not sure that we should send any army in there: better have our army at home to be able to delay a possible attack by Germany or England(or Egypt). Anyway, if I have the chance, I'll try to make peace whenever possible.

Korea looks like a good target to have our GA, as K-B said.

I'll find time to play, today or tomorrow.
 
One thing about making peace, just make sure our alliances have expired first. We still aren't in a position to trash our rep.
 
Ah, yes, we have signed a MA with Germany, England and Greece against Egypt. Thanks for reminding this to me, K-B.
 
>>SAVE<<

Pre-turn
Egypt wants a hearing: They want peace, I’ll not bite.
Our saltpeter deal ends.

1210 AD (1)
Germany knows Combustion, but wants our whole treasury (10000g )+ 140(+)gpt. We can wait a little.

IBT
Dyes deal ends: I offer Bismark Gems + 7g for Dyes.

1220 AD (2)
Worker moves.
I offer Bismark 1560g for Saltpeter, to get our Cossacks.

1230 (3)
Worker moves.

1240 AD (4)
The same.

IBT
Korea and England sign peace treaty.
England and Germany sign MA against Egypt.
We lose our ivory + rubber deal with Carthage.

1250 AD (5)
I offer Carthage WM + 2050g for ivory + rubber.

IBT
Gems deal with Carthage ends: I offer Carthage Gems for WM + 43gpt.
The military advisor informs our Queen that “ We have caught Sir Hannibal of the Carthaginians attempting to plant a spy in our capital”.

1255 AD (6)
Germany(of course!), Greece and Carthage knew Combustion, but Liz learn it this turn, so I’ll trade with her:
I offer Liz Electronics + 50g for Combustion. + WM.

I choose Mass production as our next tech.

IBT
Korea asks for MA against Greece and RoP: I deny.

1260 AD (7)
Ironworks completes… Ironworks.
Worker moves.

1265 AD (8)
Nothing.

1270 AD (9)
Worker moves.

1275 AD (10)
Worker moves.

Summary
We ‘re on tech par with England.
Germany has the lead(of course).
Greece and Carthage know the Radio.
We have enough money to buy the tech, if we want, for around 6500g, but, I’d say, wait a bit more.

We can decide to hurry a lot of improvements, to help our non-core cities to be more productive.

I have 2 cities producing artilleries: we really need many of them, just in case.

We’re ready to sail to Korea: I have 8 cossacks and a stack of infantries(leave the artilleries: do not take them to Korea) near Moscow. Our navy is in Novgorod: 1 destroyer, 2 Ironclad’s and 2 Transports. Next player can fill them up before he plays his first turn, and sail towards Korea. I’d say, take the Cossacks and 2-4 infantries with you: after we have a successful attack and trigger our GA, bring them all back to home.
Do not declare until our navy reaches really close.
Maybe it’ll be good to sign a MA against Korea, before the strike.

We’re still on our MA with Germany, England and Greece against Egypt.

Good luck.
 
Good turns K-A! :goodjob:

Does anyone know if Yom is still AWOL? I think I'll wait until later this afternoon, and if we don't hear from him I'll pick it up.
 
THE SAVE


Preturn- Load up the 1275 BC file instead of 1275 AD file. Oops.
That was scary. We only had five cities. I like the situation in 1275 AD much better. We're looking quite good, I say.

I honorably cancel our alliances against Egypt. I trade Alexander gems for 42gpt and a small amount of gold. I call up Cleo and ask her to smoke the peace pipe with us. She accepts and throws in 140g. She must be quite glad that our mighty Cossack forces will no longer hang like a dark cloud over her fledgling empire :lol:
I go and trade her Combustion and get wines out of it.

I decide to do some trading, as we have quite a load of money to play with. I get Mass Production from Germany for 10,900g.
I get Radio from Greece for Mass Production and 2600g. I trade Mass Prod. to Carthage for 819g. I trade Radio to England for 62gpt.
I set research to Flight, and I decide to take us in the opposite direction, now going for maximum research to see if we can get it before Germany, as I think/hope they'll go for MT first to get Panzers. It's due in 8 turns at 100%.

Also, I send our invasion fleet on it's way. I propose saving it for the Modern Age so we have some help in research.

IT- We build lots of units. I set these cities to wealth to help offset the money we're losing in our research efforts.
We catch good old Bizzy trying plant a spy.

T1 1280

Notthing much going on. Bizzy has Amphibious War for sale. Thats about it.

IT- Nothing

T2 1285

Nothing new.

IT- zzz

T3 1290

ZZZ

IT- Nothing

T4 1295

As I predicted, Germany has Motoized Transportation. We have Flight due in 4. Hopefully we'll beat him to it.

IT- I add on to our mongloid Palace. It's...culturally diverse, to say the least.
We catch Bizzy planting spies again.
We lose our supply of furs.

T5 1300

I regain our furs from Carthage for 1150g.

IT- We lose our spices.

T6 1305

Nothing new.

IT- Nothing

T7 1310

I'm able to lower science to 50% and still get Flight next turn.

IT- We learn how to fly.

T8 1315

But of course, the German bastards learn Flight the same turn as us. I decide to trade him for MT. It's costly at 1271g and 540gpt, but we finally go modern.

We draw Fission as our free tech. Germany got Computers.

Moscow is set to UN in 16 turns.
I have Kiev start the Manhattan project. I'm using this as a place holder for SETI. If Germany chooses to start building it in a crappy city, we might just have a chance of Grabbing it.

I do some other minor trades, giving Greece MT for spices and a chunk of gold. Carthage also gets it for some gpt, as does England.

IT- Nothing

T9 1320

Not much of anything. I notice Germany's offer for Fission is dropping, indicating that they must be researching it. I decide to take the oppurtunity while I have it and trade Fission, 3420g and 230gpt to him for Computers. Iswitch our prebuild to SETI, and change our cities from wealth to Research Labs. I also trade Greece Flight to get them to go modern. Tehy get Rocketry as their free tech. I trade him Fission, Computers, 40g and 220gpt for Rocketry. I call up Bizzy and show him our shiny new rockets. He pays 650gpt and 200g for them.

IT- Germany starts SETI and the UN.

T10 1325

I do some investigations to see how quickly Deutschland is going to complete the wonders. They're building the UN in Berlin, and SETI in Orleans. The UN will be completed in 20 turns, compared to 14 for us, and SETI will be completed in 16 turns, compared to our 12. We're looking good on that front, at least.

Afterthoughts

We're doing good right now. We're at tech parity, and we're making over 1000gpt despite paying 990gpt out in deals. I think we should wait on our GA until our deals end, and then we'll have our full research capacity back. At that point, we can trigger our GA and research the rest of the age on our own, if we want. When we do invade, I suggest landing on the mountain next to Inch'on. Actually, now that I realize it, once we complete SETI we'll enter a GA anyway, so we may not even need the force provided we can snag it.
 
I don't know. I mean were not aiming for Conquest, obviously. Space race is another possibility, rather than the UN.
 
Nice trading there, K-B :goodjob:

I'm not sure, if we should hold a UN vote: do we have hopes that others are going to vote for us?
 
I started the UN so we can deny other civs having it. The last thing we want is to have struggled all this way just to lose a stinking vote and lose the game. If we hold it, I think we'd probably win. We can do that if you guys want to end this sooner, or we can go for space. I think we should go for space, as it'll be a little bit more of a challenge, but I still think we'll win easily, provided we don't get any visits from a a certain neighbor with Panzers.
 
We'll wait 12 hours, if he doesn't show then Chunky Kong is up.
 
I'm back.

It looks like we're pretty much set :D. I would probably go for Space rather than UN. UN is sort of a cop-out as you can manipulate the votes so easily. If we want to get a UN win, we should do it without gifts (which isn't gonna happen, which is why I think we should go for space).
 
Yom, welcome back. Okay, since Kiech has dropped of the face of the earth (however, I also saw him post in a different thread), Chunky Kong is up.
 
Sorry about that...I got mixed up with all of the skips. :( Go ahead and play past me. I have spent too much time this weekend with ol' Rachet and Clank.
 
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