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History questions not worth their own thread IV

Discussion in 'World History' started by Plotinus, Apr 13, 2012.

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  1. Cheezy the Wiz

    Cheezy the Wiz Socialist In A Hurry

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    You say that as if there is a concept of nation-states that doesn't involve ethnic-nationalistic masturbation on some level.
     
  2. Lone Wolf

    Lone Wolf Deity

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    It's the former Soviet Union we're talking about. Assuming ethno-nationalistic masturbation is mandatory.
     
  3. Dachs

    Dachs Hero of the Soviet Union

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    Uh, civic nationalism?
     
  4. Traitorfish

    Traitorfish The Tighnahulish Kid

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    And they call me a utopian... :mischief:
     
  5. Dachs

    Dachs Hero of the Soviet Union

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    Not going to get into an argument about whether civic nationalism actually exists and is relevant, though I obviously think that it is, but he did ask for a concept. A rather startling memory lapse on his part, since he is supposedly into the Soviet Union.
     
  6. Traitorfish

    Traitorfish The Tighnahulish Kid

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    (For the record, I do think that civic nationalism exists and is relevant, I just think that there's usually some arsehole who will end up ethnicising it one way or the other. But mostly I just wanted to make a snide remark. :mischief:)
     
  7. Cheezy the Wiz

    Cheezy the Wiz Socialist In A Hurry

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    Guilty as charged. I blame eight pints of Guinness, 15 hours of work, a long car ride home, and being up way past my bed time.
     
  8. Civciv5

    Civciv5 Grand Emperor

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    Are there any (known) direct descendants of the ancient Pharaohs of Egypt?
     
  9. Dachs

    Dachs Hero of the Soviet Union

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    Family histories don't go back that far for anyone.
     
  10. Tee Kay

    Tee Kay Silly furry

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    IIRC the Osmanlis claim descent from Noah.
     
  11. Lord Baal

    Lord Baal Deity

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    Confucius? We could (theoretically) work it out from the dna we have, could we not? Of course, it would take a tremendous amount of luck in finding someone who happened to be a descendant.
     
  12. Lord Baal

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    And the royal families of two or three European states claimed descent from Priam. Not really supportable.
     
  13. Masada

    Masada Koi-san!

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    I suppose if Confucius was a chick.
     
  14. Lord Baal

    Lord Baal Deity

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    How do you figure that? Mitochondrial Confucius?
     
  15. Masada

    Masada Koi-san!

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    Yeah, that's exactly how I figured it.
     
  16. Tee Kay

    Tee Kay Silly furry

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  17. sydhe

    sydhe King of Kongs

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    There's a good probability that everyone on Earth is descended from Confucius. The family tree project seems to be interested primarily in the Kong lineage, but when you take into account lines that pass through female descendants, it would be much, much larger.
     
  18. Lord Baal

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    Confucius didn't live anywhere near long-enough ago for that to happen.
     
  19. Tee Kay

    Tee Kay Silly furry

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    Confucius could've had a lot of illegitimate children?
     
  20. Dachs

    Dachs Hero of the Soviet Union

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    also, he could've traveled to the americas and africa in secret
     
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