HOF Mod Support/Suggestions

[BuddhaBubba]

I'm still having problems with the HOF3.03.01
I'm guessing it's because I have the direct2drive version of BTS (and, yes, it's patched to 3.03)
The weird thing is that I played a game all the way up to 1866. Then, when I try to load the save, the game CTD's. And now, when I try to start a new game, it CTD's too. I give up.

 

[Denniz]

I'm still having problems with the HOF3.03.01
I'm guessing it's because I have the direct2drive version of BTS (and, yes, it's patched to 3.03)
The weird thing is that I played a game all the way up to 1866. Then, when I try to load the save, the game CTD's. And now, when I try to start a new game, it CTD's too. I give up.

Nobody has reported any problems with direct2drive before. The fact that you were able to play for awhile seems to indicate some other problem. Can you start games without the mod? What OS do you have? Did you install Blue Marble by any chance? It does work with the HOF MOD in BTS.

 

[BuddhaBubba]

Nobody has reported any problems with direct2drive before. The fact that you were able to play for awhile seems to indicate some other problem. Can you start games without the mod? What OS do you have? Did you install Blue Marble by any chance? It does work with the HOF MOD in BTS.

To answer your questions:
-Yes, I can start games without the mod
-My OS is windows xp home sp2
-No, I have not installed blue marble

I went ahead and tried reinstalling BTS, the patch to 3.03 and the HOF mod all over again... still CTD

 

[Denniz]

To answer your questions:
-Yes, I can start games without the mod
-My OS is windows xp home sp2
-No, I have not installed blue marble

I went ahead and tried reinstalling BTS, the patch to 3.03 and the HOF mod all over again... still CTD

Does it blow up right away or can you get me a starting save file?

How did you patch BTS? Did you do it through the advanced options or manual execute the exe? I have seen a case where the patch didn't finish correctly through the advanced options.

There is an asset checker that you can download: http://hof.civfanatics.net/civ4/mods/Civ4AssetChecker1.4.zip. It should automatically find the paths to Civ4 and the HOF mod. If not then click the folder buttons and find them manually. Click "Check", then "Save Results" and then zip up the .csv and post it here.

 

[Methos]

It appears the HOF Site is down.

 

[BuddhaBubba]

Does it blow up right away or can you get me a starting save file?

How did you patch BTS? Did you do it through the advanced options or manual execute the exe? I have seen a case where the patch didn't finish correctly through the advanced options.

There is an asset checker that you can download: http://hof.civfanatics.net/civ4/mods/Civ4AssetChecker1.4.zip. It should automatically find the paths to Civ4 and the HOF mod. If not then click the folder buttons and find them manually. Click "Check", then "Save Results" and then zip up the .csv and post it here.

I patched it through the manual file. I attached the csv zip as directed.
Funny thing I just found out: If I load the Mod but leave "Lock Modified Assets" Unchecked, then it works! Any idea why that's happening?

 

[Denniz]

I patched it through the manual file. I attached the csv zip as directed.
Funny thing I just found out: If I load the Mod but leave "Lock Modified Assets" Unchecked, then it works! Any idea why that's happening?

Okay, this is a little strange. Your Vanilla and BTS exe files don't match what I have. Have you patched Vanilla to 1.74? Are you sure you have BTS patched to 3.03? If you can post a BTS save using HOF Mod (even with LMA unchecked), I might be able to tell more.

 

[azzaman333]

I patched it through the manual file. I attached the csv zip as directed.
Funny thing I just found out: If I load the Mod but leave "Lock Modified Assets" Unchecked, then it works! Any idea why that's happening?

I made a small mod to test something, and didn't delete the file in Custom Assets causing the game to crash every time I tried to start a game with LMA.

Do you have anything in your Custom Assets folders?

 

[Denniz]

I made a small mod to test something, and didn't delete the file in Custom Assets causing the game to crash every time I tried to start a game with LMA.

Do you have anything in your Custom Assets folders?

Another BTS bug, maybe? It is supposed to ignore custom assets when a mod (ie. something in the mods folder) is running

 

[azzaman333]

It seems I wasn't too clear with my post. What I meant was I copied the file

Spoiler :

D:\Program Files\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\Beyond the Sword\Assets\XML\Civilizations\CIV4LeaderHeadInfos.xml

to

Spoiler :

D:\My Documents\My Games\Beyond the Sword\CustomAssets\xml\civilizations

and changed one of the leaders to be Ind/Phi in the Custom Assets version.

I then started a non-HoF mod game without LMA to test how over-powered Ind/Phi was (not very IMO) and after that tried to start another game with LMA on (but without loading the HoF mod). As soon as I hit Launch, CTD.

 

[Denniz]

It seems I wasn't too clear with my post. What I meant was I copied the file

Spoiler :

D:\Program Files\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\Beyond the Sword\Assets\XML\Civilizations\CIV4LeaderHeadInfos.xml

to

Spoiler :

D:\My Documents\My Games\Beyond the Sword\CustomAssets\xml\civilizations

and changed one of the leaders to be Ind/Phi in the Custom Assets version.

I then started a non-HoF mod game without LMA to test how over-powered Ind/Phi was (not very IMO) and after that tried to start another game with LMA on (but without loading the HoF mod). As soon as I hit Launch, CTD.

Now that is downright interesting. That's a fairly major bug for competive player (multiplayers, HOF, and GOTM). Thanks for the info. I wonder if that was on the 3.13 fix list Alxeman posted.

 

[BuddhaBubba]

Okay, this is a little strange. Your Vanilla and BTS exe files don't match what I have. Have you patched Vanilla to 1.74? Are you sure you have BTS patched to 3.03? If you can post a BTS save using HOF Mod (even with LMA unchecked), I might be able to tell more.

yeah, I checked both out
attached is a save using the HOF mod with the LMA unchecked (the AD 1665 one)

I made a small mod to test something, and didn't delete the file in Custom Assets causing the game to crash every time I tried to start a game with LMA.

Do you have anything in your Custom Assets folders?

Actually, yeah, I have the "Actual Quotes for BTS" ... I have now removed it... and.... it looks like that was the problem all along! I attached a save as proof (the initial BC 4000 one)

thanks for the help guys!

 

[Shadondriel]

Somehow CivIV crashes again when I try to load HoF-mod in BtS.
I've installed the update and now it is the same as last time it happened.

I've already tried to start a game, to reinstall HoF-mod, to manually change the .ini, but it just doesn't work anymore.

Does anyone remember another trick how to make it work again?

EDIT: Just read that crashing is normal now, because of the changes. Problem solved ^^

 

[Methos]

From your post in the 3.13 Patch thread, I believe you understand the problem now, but I might as well explain it so that everyone knows. Since there is a new patch out we'll have to release another version of the HOF Mod that works with the new patch. The current HOF mod won't work with this patch. As you'll notice from the page for old downloads, there is a version for every patch.

We'll have the new BTS version out as soon as we can.

 

[ori]

Thanks! We're currently updating the HOF Mod for the new patch, but I'm unsure if the Glance screen will be brought back just yet. We'll have to see.

BTW, why would you not want to use the HOF Mod!

If you decide not to bring the HOF-Mod version of it back, please consider just uncommenting the BtS version - while it is uglier then the HOF-Mod one it is still useful and that change should not be too time consuming to program

 

[CivAgamemnon]

And I might ask, is it possible to use some of Bhruic's fixes as well? They do eliminate some bugs, in particular, the culture and espionage values on tool-tips.

 

[Denniz]

And I might ask, is it possible to use some of Bhruic's fixes as well? They do eliminate some bugs, in particular, the culture and espionage values on tool-tips.

I had already noticed his unoffical patch but haven't had a chance to look at it yet. We will try to include an bug fixes that are identified.

If anyone knows of any other bug fixes please post a link in case we miss it.

 

[Gosha190]

I have an idea, may be I'm not fist..
It will be very fruitful for all HOF and GOTM players to get a recover utility for a last turn if game crashed. This is only way to restore turn exactly.

 

[AlanH]

I don't think that's practical. It would mean auto-saving after every event, or every few seconds.

 

[Gosha190]

I don't think that's practical. It would mean auto-saving after every event, or every few seconds.

seems you are right! Such task can do only game itself but not external utility.
I needed to ask firaxis to include mentioned service - autoreplaying some turns number.