Homosexuality and Health

[ironduck]

Maybe all countries should copy places like Iran where any public show of affection is punishable.

 

[ummmm........]

I really want to carry on with this, but puglover's original post is just asking for data, and we probably shouldn't let capslock's bigotry derail the whole thread

 

[El_Machinae]

I take it you base that on the study by Stanley Coren and Diane Halpern?

Dunno. I thought I read it in a credible source, but I certainly cannot remember where I heard it.

Oops.

 

[The Yankee]

I really want to carry on with this, but puglover's original post is just asking for data, and we probably shouldn't let capslock's bigotry derail the whole thread

Moderator Action: A good idea. Let's get back on track. capslock can clarify himself if he so chooses.

 

[Mathilda]

3. Choice (Though this is a luxury that bisexuals have and would only apply to bis themselves)

Choosing to have a hetero or homo relationship doesn't stop you (or me) being a bisexual.
Sexuality - hetero, bi or staright means attraction, capability of falling in love and forming intimate relationships with only the same gender, both genders or only the same gender respectively.
For bisexuals forming one relationship with either the same or the opposite gender does not remove the capability for the other.
Or in other words if a married man can find other women apart from his wife attractive, he's straight. If he can find other women AND men attractive, he's bisexual.

 

[Mirc]

Homosexuality

 

[ComradeDavo]

Being hetrosexual gives you aids! - http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/health_medical/article364632.ece

Fear and suspicion as St Ives awaits HIV results
By Geneviève Roberts
Published: 13 May 2006

The crude police-style body outline daubed on the road behind the harbour is accompanied by a piece of scrawled, ungrammatical advice. "Should of worn a condom," the graffiti reads.

St Ives, one of England's most beautiful seaside resorts, is struggling with the disturbing realisation that it has a major HIV outbreak in its midst. While graffiti can quickly be covered up, the Cornish community's anxiety is less easily concealed.

On Monday, the first results of the HIV tests, undertaken after health officials announced they had uncovered up to 10 cases in the town, will be known.

With the source of the biggest heterosexual outbreak in Britain for 10 years still a mystery, the tests could provide a break-through in establishing his or her identity. So far more than 200 people have called the dedicated helpline to arrange tests.

In such a small community - St Ives' population is 6,000 - rumours are rife. "That's the name that's being spread around," confided one shopkeeper to a customer, before swiftly adding: "But it's not fair to gossip."

Martin Page, who moved to St Ives 30 years ago, said the impact on the lives of people in the town could not be underestimated. "The chances are that whoever is involved will not want to stay here," he said. "Some people will be having HIV tests done in Plymouth because they do not even want people to know. People have not changed their behaviour here since the late Seventies and the place has always had a bohemian atmosphere."

St Ives has attracted a thriving artistic community for decades as well as a more traditional holiday crowd. But it retains its sense of identity as a community.

Sonia Pacey, sales assistant at the Wind and Sea Surfing Centre, said that the scare was frightening because St Ives is such a small place. "I have heard rumours that it is one man, and, if it was that person, everybody would be very annoyed," she said.

Jonny Dex, 26, manager of the Iso Bar, St Ives' only nightclub, said: "Because St Ives has a small population, there are likely to be more people who have shared the same sexual partners."

More than 70 people in Cornwall are being treated for HIV and Aids. In 2004, there were 49 new cases in Devon and Cornwall combined. An Ipsos MORI poll, commissioned by the National Aids helpline last year, found that, nationwide, people were less aware of how HIV was transmitted than five years ago. More than one in five people now claim HIV cannot be caught through heterosexual sex - twice as many as five years ago.

Dr David Miles, director of public health for the West of Cornwall Primary Care Trust, said that the announcement that people who had had unprotected sex in St Ives should be tested for HIV was prompted by a growing number of people testing positive for HIV. He said: "We had become aware of a number of cases in the last month and knew we could not trace all contacts. The best way to deal with the problem was to let everyone know at the same time. We think that people have been at risk for the last eight years up until the present time, and there are some links between the cases."

In the Sheaf of Wheat pub, friends Scott Rowe and Kerry Trevorrorw, both 18, were discussing the scare. Ms Trevorrorw said: "People think the Pill protects them from sexually transmitted infections, and it doesn't. And they think that they are protected because it is such a small town." Mr Rowe said: "I know I have been safe where possible but I am going to get tested. If there's the risk there, I would rather address it and have peace of mind."

Rose Hitchens, 17, a sales assistant at Just Toys on Lifeboat Hill, has just returned to St Ives from Swaziland, where she worked with HIV orphans, to find the same virus in everyone's minds. She said: "Having just seen the scale of the HIV problem in Africa, it is a shock to find the issue on my doorstep here in St Ives. People have become a bit complacent but this is a worldwide issue no one can ignore."

Virus facts

* A total of 58,000 people in the UK are HIV positive, but a third of infections are believed to be undiagnosed, according to the National Aids Trust.

* In 2005, 6,727 people were diagnosed with HIV in the UK. Of these, 53 per cent (3,550) acquired the virus through heterosexual contact, 30 per cent (2,039) through sex between men, and 1.6 per cent (106) through injecting drugs.

* More than 40 million people are living with HIV across the world. Sixty per cent of all HIV cases are in sub-Saharan Africa. There were almost five million cases of HIV diagnosed worldwide in 2005 and more than three million deaths from Aids in 2005.

The bolded part speaks for itself really.

 

[Truronian]

/\ I know one one the people being tested in St. Ives . Given their lifestyle I would not be surprised if they tested positive.

 

[silver 2039]

And on an another note a study has proven that homosexuals are gay

 

[ComradeDavo]

/\ I know one one the people being tested in St. Ives . Given their lifestyle I would not be surprised if they tested positive.

Thats bad, I hope they are ok!

 

[VoodooAce]

Homosexuality

Bigotry and bigots

 

[MobBoss]

Being hetrosexual gives you aids! -

The bolded part speaks for itself really.

Now wait a tic. If 30% of the new cases come from homosexual men - are homosexual men accounted as being 30% of the general population?

Or is this another case where a small minority of the general population account for 30% of all new cases?

I think if you consider overall population and the number of heterosexuals compared with the number of homosexuals AND THEN looked at the percentages THAT would speak for itself as well.

Once you consider the overall population numbers I think you see plainly which demograph has a MUCH higher infection rate/percentage.

 

[croxis]

Let me put it this way.

on AVERAGE homosexual's AVERAGE life expectancy is lower than the AVERGAE heterosexual life expectancy.

BUT

if you were to look at INDIVIDUAL cases and the choices and actions of INDIVIDUALS, then you will find that sexual orientation has no effect on health or life expectancy.

 

[capslock]

He's trying to say that gay men can have sex with women (true) and straight men can have sex with men (true).

He then goes on to say that gay men should have sex with women, while straight men should not have sex with men.

I guess whether that makes sense is up to the individual reader . . .

No, you are reading into it what you want to see. It means, you can be a homo, and have a relationship with a man without any issues what so ever.

Prancing around in hot pants, or flaunting your homo-sexuality in pulbic will draw strange looks, and it should. Keep your sex life at home (this goes for everyone) and there are no issues. What I meant by conform, is: don't act like total flaming queers, and you won't get treated like flaming queers. It didn't have anything to do with sex.

No I am not a bigot. I don't understand why many of you put homosexuality on a higher plain than other common fetishes/deviant tendencies. Its really not a big deal, and the ones championing gay-pride are as bad as the bigots who persecute gays.

My main point was: Its not totally a choice. Its not totally out of the persons control how they behave. This was a response to one the OPs questions.

 

[warpus]

No, you are reading into it what you want to see. It means, you can be a homo, and have a relationship with a man without any issues what so ever.

Prancing around in hot pants, or flaunting your homo-sexuality in pulbic will draw strange looks, and it should. Keep your sex life at home (this goes for everyone) and there are no issues. What I meant by conform, is: don't act like total flaming queers, and you won't get treated like flaming queers. It didn't have anything to do with sex.

Is holding hands in public "flaunting your hetero/homo-sexuality" ?

 

[Moss]

No, you are reading into it what you want to see. It means, you can be a homo, and have a relationship with a man without any issues what so ever.

Prancing around in hot pants, or flaunting your homo-sexuality in pulbic will draw strange looks, and it should. Keep your sex life at home (this goes for everyone) and there are no issues. What I meant by conform, is: don't act like total flaming queers, and you won't get treated like flaming queers. It didn't have anything to do with sex.

No I am not a bigot. I don't understand why many of you put homosexuality on a higher plain than other common fetishes/deviant tendencies. Its really not a big deal, and the ones championing gay-pride are as bad as the bigots who persecute gays.

What happened first, people promoting gay rights, or people bashing gays for being who they are? I'd say the latter. If groups didn't attack such behaviors, there wouldn't be a need to defend such behaviors. Oh, and conformity is highly overrated and quite boring.

 

[capslock]

What happened first, people promoting gay rights, or people bashing gays for being who they are? I'd say the latter. If groups didn't attack such behaviors, there wouldn't be a need to defend such behaviors. Oh, and conformity is highly overrated and quite boring.

I aggree, but its going way overboard now.

 

[Kan' Sharuminar]

Maybe we should just lock all of them up in camps where they can be gay all they want.

And while we're at it - let's get rid of the Scots.

Wha?...HEY!

 

[warpus]

I aggree, but its going way overboard now.

Really? Where do you live - nearbly a non-stop 24/7 gay pride parade?

 

[Xanikk999]

Wha?...HEY!

Well, they are some of the only men in modern times to wear skirts in public as part of thier fashion.

He was kidding also.