How do you, as a meat-eater, justify the violence inherent in your food?

[Atlas14]

Sorry but that is the stupidest most ignorant comment i have ever heard.

You must of gotten that from the hippy scientific journal.

Plants can respond to environmental stimuli just like humans and other animals. However plants do not have a brain to comprehend what is actually happening to them, and so they have no concept of emotion when they are being eaten or killed.

 

[punkbass2000]

Much like shellfish.

 

[Xanikk999]

Sorry the last comment was a joke.

But plants dont get excited, they react to light and thats about the only time they lean towards anything. I forgot what the term for this was called.

Some other plants can react to pressure and weight, like the venus fly trap.
But it is just a chemical reaction, not instinct or feelings.

 

[LucyDuke]

I don't recall anyone saying that there is no difference, though I may well be mistaken. And, of course, even if there is a meaningful distinction, it certainly blurs the line. If it's not ok to eat a pig, why is it ok to eat an oyster? If it's not ok to eat an oyster, why is it ok to eat a carrot? There are, of course, a million other similar distinctions.

I don't think anyone said that specifically, either, it's an example. The people that pop up saying "radishes feel pain!" as a counterargument to vegetarianism sound like idiots, that's all. Their argument comes across as "everything feels pain so we can't eat anything", which has some obvious problems.

 

[punkbass2000]

Sorry the last comment was a joke.

But plants dont get excited, they react to light and thats about the only time they lean towards anything. I forgot what the term for this was called.

Photosynthesis is what causes this indirectly. I don't know if there's another term for the specific act.

But it is just a chemical reaction, not instinct or feelings.

What's the difference?

 

[LucyDuke]

But it is just a chemical reaction, not instinct or feelings.

What's the difference? Complexity?

 

[Bozo Erectus]

Xannik, go to Amazon and pick up a copy of The Secret Life of Plants.

 

[Xanikk999]

Plants can respond to environmental stimuli just like humans and other animals. However plants do not have a brain to comprehend what is actually happening to them, and so they have no concept of emotion when they are being eaten or killed.

I know but thats not what he was saying. As i just said in my post after yours, plants respond to stimili, not instincts or feelings.

 

[Atlas14]

Xannik, go to Amazon and pick up a copy of The Secret Life of Plants.

Could you give us a synopsis instead?

 

[punkbass2000]

I don't think anyone said that specifically, either, it's an example. The people that pop up saying "radishes feel pain!" as a counterargument to vegetarianism sound like idiots, that's all.

OK; just seems like a bit of non-sequitur if no one's actually said it.

Their argument comes across as "everything feels pain so we can't eat anything", which has some obvious problems.

I believe such arguments are intended to highlight the absurdity of such an argument; not to purport it.

 

[Bozo Erectus]

Could you give us a synopsis instead?

Just go to amazon, you'll get a much better synopsis than whatever I could dredge up. I read it like 15 years ago.

 

[Xanikk999]

What's the difference? Complexity?

Instincts actually require a nervous system.

 

[Xanikk999]

Xannik, go to Amazon and pick up a copy of The Secret Life of Plants.

Is it supporting this psuedoscience that punkbass is advocating? Or is it written by a scientist?

 

[Atlas14]

Quite frankly it shouldn't matter what you eat as long as it is killed humanely before being eaten.

 

[Bozo Erectus]

Is it supporting this psuedoscience that punkbass is advocating? Or is it written by a scientist?

You only believe scientists? Whys that?

 

[punkbass2000]

Is it supporting this psuedoscience that punkbass is advocating? Or is it written by a scientist?

Can you explain how you know something is pseudoscience without, you know, knowing anything about it?

 

[Truronian]

Instincts actually require a nervous system.

Not according to wikipedia...

Now who's dealing in pseudo-science?

 

[Xanikk999]

You only believe scientists? Whys that?

It depends.

If it was written by a uneducated person not knowledgable about the field i would be skeptical.

 

[Bozo Erectus]

It depends.

If it was written by a uneducated person not knowledgable about the field i would be skeptical.

Who would tell you if the guy is educated, a scientist?

 

[Urederra]

I don't really see this as proselytizing by Aneeshm. He sees something that he personally views as bad and wants to know why people think it's okay. Asking for viewpoints isn't really the same as urging everyone to convert to Hinduism.

I think he also want us to convert to vegetarianism.

Personally, I see nothing wrong with proselytizing anyway, so wouldn't have minded even if he had urged everyone to covert to Hinduism.

I agree with that. He complains about other religions for proselytizing, though. It is not a crime, that is true.

P.S. - Urederra, I'd like to purchase your advertising space. What is your going rate?

Right now, Fifty offered 50 cool points and Narz offered 100 cool points. those are the two offers I had.