How is your EU3 Game going?

[Double A]

Why does EU3 get less and less fun the further on in the timeline I play?

 

[Mosher]

Why does EU3 get less and less fun the further on in the timeline I play?

Because the magic fairy dust sprinkled on the 15th century loses its luster and you run out of things to do.

 

[Quintillus]

Why does EU3 get less and less fun the further on in the timeline I play?

1. You tend to become more powerful, so there becomes less and less of a challenge (for the most part). While at first becoming more powerful means you can challenge the Bohemias of the world instead of just the Mecklenburgs, soon there's no one who's a good challenge.

2. If you keep playing anyway, you run out of the magic fairy dust (in particular, the civ-specific events and missions).

3. If you still keep playing, your country tends to become so large that it's almost work to manage all the units during wars.

It's not altogether different from why Civ can be less fun later on - there's often less of a balance of power late-game. I'd actually be inclined to say Civ does better at giving you things to do other than conquer early game.

 

[Angst]

EU3 is one big snowball mechanics, that's its basic issue. If you are in any way succesful, it gets boring per like 1700 ad, often earlier if you manage well

civ handles the snowballmachine better if you're playing against the correct difficulty level, especially as there are plenty of victories to aim for and bots are much better at and more prone to pick on exposed great powers than the eu3 ai

 

[sophie]

Because EU3 forces you into linear geographic expansion. Eventually you get to a point either where a) you're satisfied with how your borders look and don't want to expand anymore b) the thought of redrawing your borders/beating major powers loses its luster. Rome: TW has the same problem. There's really nothing to do other than conquer. At least Civ forces you to pay attention to your domestic affairs - it's possible for big civs to collapse under the weight of overwhelming unhappiness, sickness, or an overlarge military. EU3 gets to a point eventually where even being over the infamy limit is nothing more than a nuisance.

 

[Wolfbeckett]

It's been a busy time recently in my game. I had a lot of years of religious upheaval cause by the reformation nonsense, but I've got that under control now so my revolts are much lower. Once that was under control, some territory expansions.

Europe:

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I finally diplo-annexed Foix, and I gained some lands in the southeast part there after a war with Milan. Sadly Milan got diplo-annexed before I could finish my quest to fully annex them, but at least me getting those 5 provinces kept Bavaria from gobbling up the whole pie. Currently not sure what to do in Europe, going to war with anyone here would be a nightmare at this point since everyone is so interconnected with alliances. Maybe Spain, it might be time for me to finally fulfill my earlier ambition of taking Spanish lands. They're pretty big now though so I'd have to prepare for that war for a while before I felt comfortable doing it.

Africa:

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Another easy war with Morroco knocked them out for good. Algiers or Tripoli are probably next on the chopping block here. Plenty of Spanish presence too though, I might leave Tripoli and Algiers alone for now and instead prepare my forces to invade the Spanish African provinces when I go to war with them.

New World:

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South America ahoy! I don't forsee too many issues continuing my colonization efforts in SA here. Only real issue I have is that I don't have many troops in this part of the world and Spain has a fair presence in North America so I'll need to move some defensive troops down here before I start my war with them. Other than that my ambition here for the time being is just to continue sending colonists, I don't see any profitable wars here right now. Unless I wrap around South America some more in which case a war with the Inca should prove both easy and fruitful.

 

[Lohrenswald]

I'm trying to play as Russia. I have the national idea that gives me more missionaries, but with max innovative I lose 1/4 missionaries per year. Conquering Mecca, Jerusalem or Rome is out of the question. Is there anything else that can help me get missionaries?

 

[Arakhor]

Don't be max-Innovative if you wish to spread your religion. I believe that Unam Sanctum can give you more and maybe Church Attendance Duty, but that's about it.

 

[Lohrenswald]

Don't be max-Innovative if you wish to spread your religion.

But I need Technology

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I don't know if this is sustainable

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[Arakhor]

You seem to be on par with the rest of Europe. Moreover, you can't Westernise until you fall at least 20 technologies behind a Western power.

 

[Lohrenswald]

Moreover, you can't Westernise until you fall at least 20 technologies behind a Western power.

That happened. Military modernisation remains, though.

I guess I can free my subjects and then narrow my mind.

 

[Arakhor]

I wouldn't worry too much about technology though. It's important, of course, but so long as you're on par with the rest of Europe, you're doing fine.

 

[Heretic_Cata]

Having fun with my Burgundy game !

Here's Europe:

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Note Uber-Transilvania ! I took this picture because a confrontation is prolly just around the corner ...
Also note Uber-France. I didn't really care what was going on to the west of me up until now. I didn't really mind France's succesfull annexations and succesfull wars with Castille, England, Denmark and everyone else since they never bothered me with anything. But ... a few years ago ... they claimed the throne of friggin Austria and expanded their sphere of influence in Holstein, Savoy, Norway. Oh, not in my Holy Roman Empire he didn't ! It's going DOWN.
Here's my vassals:

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I finished my first victorious war on France and took 4 provinces (one was a reconquest). The put up a good fight but were exhausted from a war with England 1 year ago and had no chance against the combined army of all my vassals.

But how can i convince Avignon to join the HRE ? They are my vassals - is there a way to make them ? Same thing for the Papal States.

 

[AbsintheRed]

Note Uber-Transilvania ! I took this picture because a confrontation is prolly just around the corner ...

This is one of the biggest mistakes in EU3
Medieval Hungary should be the most powerful player in the area up until the early 16th century
Yet I always see them totally crushed, even before 1500. Game balance is just so poor...

 

[Arakhor]

The Ottomans shouldn't fall apart either. These things happen.

 

[AbsintheRed]

The Ottomans shouldn't fall apart either. These things happen.

Yeah, but when it happens in 99% of the games, there is something wrong with balance

 

[Heretic_Cata]

I think this is the first game that i see when Hungary falls this early. In my previous games they lasted until the 1700s iirc.
The Ottoman empire OTOH fell apart very quickly in every game i played.

 

[AbsintheRed]

I think this is the first game that i see when Hungary falls this early. In my previous games they lasted until the 1700s iirc.
The Ottoman empire OTOH fell apart very quickly in every game i played.

Maybe a total collapse is not that common
But Hungary should expand between 1300-1500
Instead of that they lose some of their core territory even in the 14-15th century, it happened in every single game I saw

 

[Tee Kay]

How about you try playing Hungary

 

[Double A]

In my game, I noticed that whenever Hungary fought Austria, they would lose all their troops to armies half their size and be completely useless for the whole war, and my Hungary had Transylvania, Croatia, and Montenegro.

Now they're Reformed and Bohemia owns all their crap that touched Austria.