How is your EU3 Game going?

[TheLastOne36]

Bump?

 

[Tani Coyote]

Well in my current Venice AAR... http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=341974&page=3

I have managed to transform Venice into an Empire now, so that pesky Merchant Republic status is finally gone... I can make royal marriages now! Yay!

Now if only my rulers didn't drop dead like flies every 1-2 years... I think it's about high time to turn off historical rulers.

But anyway, I now control nearly the entire Mediterranean coast and Italy, with (Expanded) Savoy, Switzerland, Aydin, Ferrara, (Expanded) Salzburg, (Expanded) Bosnia, (Expanded) Serbia, Foix, the Mamluks, and Tunisia all as vassals/allies. I control Rome, and will be able to form Italy in the 1520s. I'm currently fighting Oman and the Turks, and intend to take part of the Hedjaz and much of Western Turkey/Turkey's coastline in the peace deal. I still have to deal with Morocco, who I'm at war with as part of the same "Uber-Muslim War", where a declaration of war upon Tunisian-held Egypt resulted in a war with Morocco, the Turks, Oman, the Mamluks and Iraq.

Morocco is thankfully part of the hellhole that is the Maghreb, and is also a crusade target, giving me nice bonuses. I'll deal with them later on, or at least seize one of their ports to aid in colonisation.

It is now 1477. I paused just before an event will fire where Mary of Burgundy will pick her spouse. She is most likely to pick the Austrians, but she can pick the French, a third country, or to not be inherited at all, in that order.

To give you an idea why Burgundy being inherited would be bad:

The most recent map, circa 1469. Burgundy's lost 2 or 3 provinces since then to revolts, but they're still pretty damned threatening. (I've also annexed the Pope, which means Milan, Parma and Rome are all mine)

The funny part is the fact that France and England have lucky tags, and yet Burgundy STILL pwned them.

 

[mech654]

My Ottoman Empire in 1647.

This is my third game. One of my best games so far. am . My first was with Morocco which was good game, I defeat both of Spain and Portugal invasions and colonize most of North Africa and conquered Algeria. Second was with France, but I abandon it.

 

[Joecoolyo]

Oooh, never knew there was an EU3 thread here, and this is perfect because I just started getting into this game . Though from my current game (it's my second game over all and decided to play as Britain) I have one question, does the A.I. Timurid usually become a monster? It seems kinda of unsual how big they are in my game.

As you can see they own just about all of Central Asia. They also happen to own the eastern coast of Africa (excluding S. Africa which is mine), central India, the Philippines, Taiwan, southern and northern Brunei, the Middle East, the Arabian Peninsula, Croatia, and some smaller pacific islands. They also have a standing army of over 300,000 men (the next highest army I believe is Ming with a little over 150,000). All I'm asking is, "is this normal"?

 

[Dachs]

What year is it, and what expansion do you have? Patch?

The Timurids are almost always supposed to collapse into massive revolts and eventually coalesce into Persia around 1460-1540ish or so. It is pretty unusual for them to be scary like that. Their tech and stab will be (ought to be, anyway) in the toilet, though, so I expect they'll collapse sooner or later. Who formed Scandinavia? Good to see Burgundy and France merrily tearing each other to shreds, and I can't deny the appeal of that Austroblob.

Prussia game, 1615, strong start that got kinda messed up by the Reformation and a series of unfortunate events following on from that.

Spoiler Screenshot :

 

[SuperBeaverInc.]

My game as Russia, 1452. Currently working on chipping away at the Golden Horde.

 

[Joecoolyo]

What year is it, and what expansion do you have? Patch?

The Timurids are almost always supposed to collapse into massive revolts and eventually coalesce into Persia around 1460-1540ish or so. It is pretty unusual for them to be scary like that. Their tech and stab will be (ought to be, anyway) in the toilet, though, so I expect they'll collapse sooner or later. Who formed Scandinavia? Good to see Burgundy and France merrily tearing each other to shreds, and I can't deny the appeal of that Austroblob.

It's IN with the latest patch.

It's about 1710, and I started sometime in the middle of the Hundred Years war. Though I haven't checked their stability, they seem to be teching fine and I haven't seen any large scale revolts in their country yet. Though on the other topic, Denmark formed Scandinavia and went crazy (taking northern Germany n all). They were my ally for the first half of the game (for reasons I'll explain later), but for some strange reason they canceled my alliance and now on and off they ban me from their COTs. I have no idea why. And I mean literally on and off, they will let me into their COT's, and then the next time they get a diplomat they cancel it.

Oh and the rest of Europe I guess can be the fault of some decisions I made early game. Basically to take down France (since I was at war with them) I allied with Burgundy. And as you can guess, we kicked total ass. Once I finished my war I demanded pretty much all of their southern provinces (the good ones) which effectively cut them off from the sea. Burgundy didn't gain anything from the war except a massive army, which they used to go and terrorized the small German nations. Eventually (you can't see it on this map) but Burgundy ended up owning everything from the Netherlands to pretty much all of Germany north of Italy. But of course, I decided that I was bored enough to invade Ireland (to try and unite it for a mission), and it was at this point Burgundy canceled their alliance and started sending insults. And this is at the point in which I became scared (since all of my provinces in France (Normadie, Caux, Calais, Provence, Limousin, Champagne, and all the other southern provinces) where at huge risk. My puny army was no match for the massive Burgundian one. So I decided to form alliances with all the big powers, which meant Scandinavia, Portugal, Spain, Austria, and Aragon. Which in the end meant that I ended up helping in all their wars of expansion, which really helped a lot (Aragon owns the Italian penn. and Western Africa, Austria's blobing, Scandinavia owns n. germany, Spain and Portugal are of course on a massive colonization spam, etc. etc.).

So with all these alliances, eventually when Austria (being the megalomaniacs that they are) declared war on Burgundy, I was able to take them down soundly. While Austria dealt with their massive 40,000 stacks on the Eastern front, I went and blitzed their Netherlands provinces (2 COTS!) and their French ones. And after they lost those (meant no reinforcements) Austria was able to clean up the mess in the East and take a bunch-load of their German provinces. Making them the massive blob that they are today. And that is probably the reason for Europe being owned by just a couple massive states (Burgundy, Aragon, Scandinavia, Austria, Ottomans, Lithuania, Spain, Portugal, etc. etc.).

oh btw, is there any way to get a close-up of the map? Because on the one I posted you can barely make-out Europe (Burgundy and my color are practically the same ).


EDIT: Just checked my game. The Timurids have a stability of +3 and seem to be teching well. So now I am quite frightened.

 

[T_F]

My Venetian game, 1567. (It's IN 3.1, I can't get the patch to install on Steam.) Just formed Italy last year, don't quite know where I should be heading next. Colonization has taken a big toll on my research, but I don't know if I have any opportunities in Europe.

So far colonization has only been me vs. Britain. Spain keeps sending ships to the Caribbean, but they never do anything. I've got half of Sri Lanka, and one thing off in like Khmer that's held by rebels and there's nothing I can do about it. >_>

 

[Love]

That's an awesome imperial europe. Seems like Portugal is kicking in america...

 

[TheLastOne36]

I think that is Italian colonies... Unless that Green thing in Azteca is Portugal

 

[T_F]

Nah, Portugal's gone - Britain didn't protect it like it did all the other Iberian minors. (It forced their release a while ago.) That's all Italian.

 

[Dachs]

Wow, Persia's shape is almost aesthetically pleasing. That's kind of shocking for the new run of Paradox games.

 

[Love]

Remember my portugal game where I got kicked out of the iberian pensylvania by spain, but luckily i owned whole north africa, south america and mali.

 

[D'Artagnan59]

I've started to play as Munster. To generate income, I have built a massive trading empire, spanning five merchants in all European COTs (and a few African ones). Instead, I just decided to please England while waiting for the Azores to become a core. It has, now I'm colonizing Massachusetts and New York. Other areas I have colonized are Rio De Oro and Arguin, Cape Verde, Madeira, and the Canary Islands.

Oddities: Castille conquered Portugal, Russia seems to be at a balance (my bets are on Novgorod, I think they have the lucky tag). They thrashed Muscovy before the Horde came along and thrashed both of them. However, a well-timed Tribal Succession released uber-Zaporozhia, Tver, Yaroslavl, the Qasim Khanate, gave Novgorod some of its old territory back, and turned Muscovy from an OPM to its 1399 borders+Kholm and Pskov.

Map later, I need to finish my work.

 

[Tani Coyote]

The known world to Venice in 1512.

As Portugal and Castile expand their dominions overseas, Venice has been busy occupying Europe. Through her dual positions as the foremost European power - with nearly 100,000 soldiers and the ability to support more than twice as much, bonuses not included - and through her control of the Holy Roman crown, Venice has succeeded in merging her empire with that of the Germans'.

One reason behind Venice's rapid expansion has been that the former great powers of Europe - Austria and France - have embraced Reformism and Protestantism, respectively. Accordingly, Venice sliced them both up, with France in particular being on the way out, having almost no control over her southern regions. Venice has signed recent truces with both, and has designs on them in the near future.

Stemming the tide of the Reformation, Venice has adopted Unam Sanctam and the Counter-Reformation as official policies, and to show the emphasis on religion, she also continues to emply 3 6-star missionaries. In provinces like Kosovo, the convert chance is 50% a year as a result. To further stem the tide, she is liberally spanking the non-Catholics in the empire, regardless of the prestige hits this implies.

Currently, Venice has cores in Austrian, Ottoman, Yemeni, Algerian, and Ferrarese territory. This will reinforce Venice's role as the "Crusader" state of Europe...

...But her work is far from over. The First Power System(England, France, Poland-Lithuania, and the Ottoman Empire) gave way to
the Second Power System(France, Burgundy, Poland-Lithuania, Castile), and then to the Third Power System(Austria, France, Venice, Novgorod, Castile), and now it has lapsed into the Fourth Power System(Venice, Novgorod, Sweden, Castile, Persia), and Venice, in her constant quest for more power and influence, will inevitably butt heads with these fellow behemoths, two of which are former allies.

 

[GoodGame]

I started playing the demo after I got slightly hooked on Victoria (too buggy for me to really like that game). Had fun colonizing Virginia as Sweden. I get the feeling I won't really like this game if it doesn't have the breadth of Civ4, to go all the way to the 20th C.

 

[aronnax]

Okay, here is the problem in my Ottoman Game.

Poland, allied with Lithuania and Bohemia, declared war on me. Together, they muster up about 160,000 troops.

I have only 63,000 troops. I can at most support another 20,000 troops without going bust. With my Vassals, I can scrap up another 25,000 troops. 5000 troops are in Spain, to stop rebels. Another 4000 are in Yemen with the similar responsibility.

What should I do!!! The only other nation that can single-handlely take the Poland-Bohemia-Lithuanian Alliance is (duh) France with 150,000 troops.

I have devised two plans.

Plan A - Operation Valkyrie
Poland has the least provinces and the least men, 43,000 men. Warsaw is next to my vassal Hungary. I focus all my troop strength there and weed out men until they all die and then siege the crap out everything. I knock it out first while I let Bohemia swarm Ottoman Italy with troops from Czech Switzerland. Bohemia troops will also pour in from Austria. I or my vassals share no border with Lithuania.

Pros - Knock out weakest link, divide the Alliance
Cons - Two Front-War in Poland

Plan B - Operation Swiss Cheese
I let my vassal Hungary get overrun with Polish and Lithuanian troops. I focus my attack on Bohemia and force them to end the war as Alliance leader.

Pros - Easy to contain.

Cons - Even if I force them to deal peace, I will never get enough points to weaken it through annexation or liberation of a nation.

I have two Goals
1) Survive the war without conceding anything
2) Destroy the Alliance.



Green - Ottoman Empire
Pink - The Empire's Vassals
Yellow - Alliance. It was the only nation I freed that did not drag me into any of its petty wars.

 

[TheLastOne36]

I started playing the demo after I got slightly hooked on Victoria (too buggy for me to really like that game). Had fun colonizing Virginia as Sweden. I get the feeling I won't really like this game if it doesn't have the breadth of Civ4, to go all the way to the 20th C.

There are mods (like WWM the one I'm working on, which expands timeline to 1918) that expand timeline into the 20th century.

The problem thoguh is that EU isn't compatable with the later era's with airships and all that stuff from the 20th century.

Also, HTTT DEMO IS OUT!!!

 

[Chieftess]

Oooh, never knew there was an EU3 thread here, and this is perfect because I just started getting into this game . Though from my current game (it's my second game over all and decided to play as Britain) I have one question, does the A.I. Timurid usually become a monster? It seems kinda of unsual how big they are in my game.

As you can see they own just about all of Central Asia. They also happen to own the eastern coast of Africa (excluding S. Africa which is mine), central India, the Philippines, Taiwan, southern and northern Brunei, the Middle East, the Arabian Peninsula, Croatia, and some smaller pacific islands. They also have a standing army of over 300,000 men (the next highest army I believe is Ming with a little over 150,000). All I'm asking is, "is this normal"?

In the game I played, they did the same thing. Then they were at war with China and India (Dehli Caliphate or whatever it was). I dogpiled on, and eventually they were split into several nations.

 

[Joecoolyo]

In the game I played, they did the same thing. Then they were at war with China and India (Dehli Caliphate or whatever it was). I dogpiled on, and eventually they were split into several nations.

Well, the Timurids did that same exact thing in my game (well at the war with China part) and ended up like this.

When at war with them, the only provinces I was able to take were they East Asian colonies (Philippines, Taiwan, etc. etc.). Though the Ottomans looked like they were able to do some damage.