How is your EU3 Game going?

[Duke of Britain]

what? you broke the balance of space and time!!!! everything we believe in plus your dog will be destroyed!!! it's impossible to France to win a war against a ant defeat England in a war!!!

 

[Tee Kay]

Yemen (?!) was the biggest winner in the collapse of the Golden Horde, and though it's split it still loos pretty formidable, at least as the regional power, though the age when Yemen controlled Arabia, Mesopotamia, connecting to Siberia is a distant memory.

I saw Yemen and did a doubletake.

What's UPCA?

United Provinces of Central America

 

[Civ'ed]

The would the USA not be the UPA?

 

[Tee Kay]

No...

 

[W|M]

Back on topic, I want to invade Aragon in my Byzantium game (to take the rest of Southern Italy and Sicily), but I have a royal marriage with them. How can I invade them without a stability hit?

 

[W|M]

insult them till they declare at you? declare war at one of their allies?

I don't have CBs against Aragonese allies, and relations are already at -200.

 

[Duke of Britain]

wait till the marriage ends, or take the stability hit anyway.

 

[bestbrian]

wait till the marriage ends, or take the stability hit anyway.

Pretty much. My current game, I waited for a level 5/6 advisor to kick in with the +2 Stab bonus, and then eliminated Barcelona.

 

[W|M]

Fortunately, Naples recently declared independence. Unfortunately, they are allied with England and guaranteed by France already, and I'm already in a war with Syria and the Mamelukes.

 

[Duke of Britain]

well, you're westernized, right? the Mamluks are a joke, their only chance of resistance is the massive atrittion.

 

[W|M]

well, you're westernized, right? the Mamluks are a joke, their only chance of resistance is the massive atrittion.

Nobody is advanced enough for me to Westernize, yet, and I'm one slider position away from it, anyway. My emperor is also &^#@%% and I'm not at +3 stability until probably in about 50 years.

EDIT: The Mamelukes and Syrians are more advanced than me, I generally have to rely on numbers to take them down.

 

[Northen Wolf]

cancel royal marriage then invade?

 

[Chieftess]

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[W|M]

cancel royal marriage then invade?

Cancelling a royal marriage gives you a stability hit.

I've successfully found a way to acquire Aragonese possessions, though, as Brandenburg replaced Austria as the HRE so I'm able to attack Genoa using a Reconquest CB on Kaffa.

EDIT: Turns out they didn't honour the alliance, and I'm getting screwed by France. I might reload to get France to not honour their alliance with Genoa.

 

[NedimNapoleon]

In my Bosnia game, I conquered all of Croatia, half of Albania and Serbia, but the <snip> Ottomans and Hungarians declared war at the same time and slaughtered me!

Im going to start a Geneva game now

 

[Duke of Britain]

In my Bosnia game, I conquered all of Croatia, half of Albania and Serbia, but the <snip> Ottomans and Hungarians declared war at the same time and slaughtered me!

Im going to start a Geneva game now

If you want a country that starts weak but gets really strong, Byzantium is the perfect choice.
however there are lots of countries that are fun to play and can get really strong : England (you can either be historical or win the hundred years war, getting cores in a lot of France with a mission. to get the mission : get at war with France, use the reconquest casus belli -> cancel your current mission, you'll probably get the mission to ocuppy Paris, just do that and have fun with your new cores )
Bradenburg (Prussia -> Germany and nothing stops you after that!)
Byzantium (like i said before)
Castille
Milan (or some other italian country)
Muscovy (Russia is a monster after you get Siberia)
Brazil (or maybe others american revolter countries, start at 1750 with Portugal and trigger the event using the console. I said Brazil because it's in a very good position to colonize South Africa and then India. plus Brazil is just awesome )

among many other countries...
however i think Genoa has no fun missions, unless you're mentioning Geneva as the tiny country between France, Burgundy and Switzerland in MEIOU.

Cancelling a royal marriage gives you a stability hit.

I've successfully found a way to acquire Aragonese possessions, though, as Brandenburg replaced Austria as the HRE so I'm able to attack Genoa using a Reconquest CB on Kaffa.

EDIT: Turns out they didn't honour the alliance, and I'm getting screwed by France. I might reload to get France to not honour their alliance with Genoa.

France sucks, get millitary acess from Savoy or some other border country France has bad relations with and destroy their army (put a army in some province, say, Provence, and then wait till they attack you, then jump with your other armies, have a awesome general for good effect)

 

[NedimNapoleon]

If you want a country that starts weak but gets really strong, Byzantium is the perfect choice.
however there are lots of countries that are fun to play and can get really strong : England (you can either be historical or win the hundred years war, getting cores in a lot of France with a mission. to get the mission : get at war with France, use the reconquest casus belli -> cancel your current mission, you'll probably get the mission to ocuppy Paris, just do that and have fun with your new cores )
Bradenburg (Prussia -> Germany and nothing stops you after that!)
Byzantium (like i said before)
Castille
Milan (or some other italian country)
Muscovy (Russia is a monster after you get Siberia)
Brazil (or maybe others american revolter countries, start at 1750 with Portugal and trigger the event using the console. I said Brazil because it's in a very good position to colonize South Africa and then India. plus Brazil is just awesome )

among many other countries...
however i think Genoa has no fun missions, unless you're mentioning Geneva as the tiny country between France, Burgundy and Switzerland in MEIOU.

Ya I'm thinking Geneva in MEIOU, my goal is to take Switzerland and Savoy and then colonize, I was also thinking about starting a campaign with Fiorenze and uniting Italy.

 

[Civ'ed]

Geneva? Might just as well start as Ulm.
Btw, never play Ulm on the Whole world mod, purely because it's a kingdom with a regency for no one.

 

[Kyriakos]

West India Man: when playing as the Byzantines it is useful (sometimes) to take some Tripolitanian province early, but not one bordering the Mameluks. You also have to watch that you do not have a border with the Algerians too soon, else they tend to ally with the ottomans. Anyway, the Tripolitanian province will mean you will have an early and neutral border with Spain, which you can use to westernize in the end of the 15th century at the latest.

 

[W|M]

X-Post. I posted this screenshot to show the weird Algeria name thing, but I didn't take a Libyan province earlier due to having other things on my mind - The one I have in the screenshot was taken after my Castillan allies captured the general area. My stability is taking an eternity to rise, to +3, and my rulers are all ^#*&$^*. I also have a bit of a problem with the powerful French being defenders of the Catholic faith, it's really annoying.