How is your EU3 Game going?

[Dell19]

I've been playing as Burgundy to get the hang of the game and its been going reasonably well so far however I've run into an issue with fighting England and I'm guessing its a common issue.

There has already been one war with England and the second is following the same pattern. I take their two provinces in mainland Europe, beat up their allies that I can reach (Provence and a random German nation) but because they still have armies I can't "win" the war. The first time round I got them to accept a white peace but this time round they won't even accept that and the war score is 26% in my favour. I assume I just have to wait for them to get bored but it seems a little silly that they can declare war but not lose. I am in a Regency at the moment with 3 as the diplomacy skill which I guess could be a factor.

Another side question with vassals in the HRE is there any way to annex them without the emperor demanding that I release them immediately afterward? As I wasn't going to have a decent monarch for the foreseeable future I took the hit of keeping Savoy.

 

[Tee Kay]

There has already been one war with England and the second is following the same pattern. I take their two provinces in mainland Europe, beat up their allies that I can reach (Provence and a random German nation) but because they still have armies I can't "win" the war. The first time round I got them to accept a white peace but this time round they won't even accept that and the war score is 26% in my favour. I assume I just have to wait for them to get bored but it seems a little silly that they can declare war but not lose. I am in a Regency at the moment with 3 as the diplomacy skill which I guess could be a factor.

Beat another English army or two, preferably by annihilation so your war score and their war exhaustion shoots up. Alternatively, invade England.

Another side question with vassals in the HRE is there any way to annex them without the emperor demanding that I release them immediately afterward? As I wasn't going to have a decent monarch for the foreseeable future I took the hit of keeping Savoy.

Withdraw provinces from the HRE immediately after you annex them (you'll need some magistrates to spare). Otherwise, become Emperor yourself.

 

[sophie]

Alternatively, inherit them via PU or marriages

 

[Tee Kay]

Alternatively, inherit them via PU or marriages

Although, in the latest expansions this only works if you're of the same culture group (being Burgundy, you'll be in the French culture group; most of the HRE would be in the German culture group - though you can move your capital to Antwerpen or something and perform a cultural shift)

 

[civ_king]

Although, in the latest expansions this only works if you're of the same culture group (being Burgundy, you'll be in the French culture group; most of the HRE would be in the German culture group - though you can move your capital to Antwerpen or something and perform a cultural shift)

Err, in DW if you and they are in the HRE you get cores, even if you are Burgundy and they are Ansbach

 

[Tee Kay]

Err, in DW if you and they are in the HRE you get cores, even if you are Burgundy and they are Ansbach

Oh yes, you're right. Mindderp there.

 

[Heretic_Cata]

Update on my Ottoman game:

Complete westernization is completed. It was fairly easy to do this by following LamaGT's advice to time the westernization of the military with the expiration of Resist western influences. This made things surprisingly easy - a bit too easy ...

Anyway, i finally inherited the throne of Jalayrids. And you know when this happened ? When i stopped caring about my diplomatic relations with them (which plummeted at 100 at some point - they were back at 200 when the inheritance took place tho). I just started demanding the annexations of 2 of my vassals, i forced integration for a 1province PU, i sent spies everywhere to cause revolts wherever i wanted, broke off alliances and waged wars after wars in africa, some for nothing more than the prestige bonus for the concession of defeat. My infamy for the whole time was mostly between 20 and 10, but now i almost finished my conquests in the area so i took a break from conquests because i ran out of good CBs in Arabia and Africa. And i only have 1 more vassal (Haasa) to demand annexation from (have to wait a few more years before i can do that again). So when the succession took place i was surprised i actually got the Jalayrid lands. Maybe it has something to do with the diplo skill of the heir (current monarch) which is 8. Compared to my previous rulers who were ******** in all areas.
Anyway i'll keep the monarchy in place until the current monarch dies. He is 5 admin, 8 diplo and 3 millitary which is nice. His heir is obviously ******** (he has two stats of 3 and one stat of 4 - don't remember which) - but it's ok i'm sure the royal family is extremely inbred. So i'm going for a republic when the drooling heir takes his places.

Anyway MAPS:

Here is what Europe looks like:

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And my empire (i have about 7 more colonies in South America - i got what was left)

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Austria has been the emperor of the HRE for a very long time and seems awfully dangerous - the empire has a lot of problems with religion tho - much more than in my spanish game. Here's a religion map:

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Btw, conquering Oman is on my priority list, because i want to eradicate shia islam for no apparent reason.

And here is the tech map which looks MUCH better than the last time i posted it:

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Future plans ?
I think i'll get the colonial ventures idea. I have +0.20 colonists per year now.
I will conquer and convert Oman.
Poland will be eliminated and have it's provinces sold to India or smthing.
I will also take some provinces from Persia because they annoy me.
Rome has to be muslim.
I don't know what to do with my european vassals Serbia and Bosnia. They both helped me a lot early in the game so they don't really deserve the fate of forced annexation and conversion. I think i'll keep them as they are.


Oh and here's a world map:

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[uat2d]

You know what you should do? Kick Spain out of the old world!

 

[warpus]

Nice, makes me want to revisit my Ottomans game

 

[Quintillus]

Ottoman <3.

I'd recommend keeping enough of Poand's land to be able to march north across the Black Sea within your territory. It's very nice for when your rivals block the Sea of Marmara.

I like the powerful, but not Russia-invading, Sweden, the relatively high amount of Protestants, and the underdog Reformed Tyrone going for a united Ireland.

You are also about a hundred years ahead of me in completing westernization. I've been stuck at tech-westernization for about 135 years now, but finally have an heir (who's actually got a regency now) with enough admin skills to complete it. In the meantime, my regency's skills are 3-4-3 .

 

[Tee Kay]

Heh, Crimean Poland.

Brings back memories.

 

[Heretic_Cata]

You know what you should do? Kick Spain out of the old world!

You mean invade my most trusted ally Spain ? Speaking of which, someone has found documents proving Ottoman claim on the province of Aragon.
IF i will plan on invading any western european country it'll be England since they were severely weakened from the previous war.

I'd recommend keeping enough of Poand's land to be able to march north across the Black Sea within your territory. It's very nice for when your rivals block the Sea of Marmara.

Yea, i'll prolly make the Black Sea an Ottoman sea and give the rest away.

Sweden is currently picking on smaller states for now. They just annexed Lithuania. Btw, shouldn't have they formed Scandinavia by now ?

You are also about a hundred years ahead of me in completing westernization. I've been stuck at tech-westernization for about 135 years now, but finally have an heir (who's actually got a regency now) with enough admin skills to complete it. In the meantime, my regency's skills are 3-4-3 .

I had to cheat to get westernization this fast. My initial plan was to switch to republic as soon as possible and that would give me plenty of admin 7 rulers. However i could not do that because i wanted to try the worthless PU system. Apparently that prevented me from switching to republic. It took almost 175 years for me to actually inherit what i wanted. So, annoyed because nothing went as planned i cheated for an admin 7 ruler.

From what i've seen PUs might only be worth it for western powers where you can easily stay with a monarchy. Using them for countries that need to westernize means you have to be really lucky with your rulers, otherwise they are just holding me back.

 

[Dell19]

In my current game as Burgundy its 1480 and I've just got a mission to retake Jerusalem and I'm wondering if its worth it or not? I've got land tech 11 whilst the Ottoman Empire is on 9 I think. My navy is at 21 ships (mostly carricks) and Sicily are in my alliance so that would be the nearest launch point. I'm inclined to cancel the mission unless it would be surprisingly easy.

Also I would like to colonise North America but still can't reach it. My naval tech has just reached 10 and I have an advisor that boosts the range by 25% but its still not enough. I'm wondering which tech level is most likely to allow me to colonise the other side? I do have the Azores but its another 20 years or so until it becomes a core province.

 

[Leonel]

What I would do is look up the number of soldiers they have in the game ledger and if they have less than the max number of units I can afford, I'd start assembling an invasion force that could match their numbers plus another 'army' as backup in case they bring their smaller friends to play. Since you're playing as Burgundy, you probably could support a whole lot of soldiers. Just capture as much as you can and force a treaty giving you at least a foothold if the Ottoman's bring bigger friends.

 

[uat2d]

I had to cheat

In my current game as Burgundy its 1480 and I've just got a mission to retake Jerusalem and I'm wondering if its worth it or not?

If you want to expand into the Middle East, yes, if not, I don't think it's worth it.

Also I would like to colonise North America but still can't reach it. My naval tech has just reached 10 and I have an advisor that boosts the range by 25% but its still not enough. I'm wondering which tech level is most likely to allow me to colonise the other side? I do have the Azores but its another 20 years or so until it becomes a core province.

Take QFTNW as that will give you +50% colonial range. Also try to get Madeira, Canarias and Cape Verde to make life easier for you. Feel free to rush there immediately and kill the American civs, they'll eventually core and will make the colonisation process much easier.

 

[Mosher]

A little bit of cheating is honestly fine, in singleplayer...

Something I do often is tag switch and move one of my allies' armies so that my army will siege the province instead of them (this is a particular problem when I have PUs and they siege a province I need for a mission, or the province I declared war over).

It's really annoying having to watch an ally siege a province and then wait for them to declare peace, when the war could have ended ages ago.

 

[SouthernKing]

I'll occasionally do the above. I'll also sometimes tag switch to decide wars so I can get AI borders that are actually bearable to look at.

 

[Angst]

I personally never cheat and am currently not even save-reloading anymore - other than in specific instances where I made a mistake with interface/game mechanics - point is that I will not reload upon getting into problems with several great powers at the same time, but I will reload in case I mistakenly made peace with the war leader rather than its subordinates when I wanted seperate peaces with everyone.

 

[Bowsling]

When playing as Italy and the AI gets the poorly-designed "Restore the Holy See" mission, a tag-switch is not out of the question.

 

[warpus]

My general rule is: "The less I reload the more I'll enjoy the game", but if I've been building up for a giant campaign and it all falls apart, I will probably reload.