How is your Victoria Game going?

[germanicus12]

Update on my USA game.

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Overtook France's industry, but it seems their industry was in decline and allowed me to overtake them. But Britain somehow managed to rapidly build up her industrial might and overtake me, but I am only 40 or so points behind Britain and rapidly closing the distance.

Since being allied with Canada, I have been expanding my power base in the America's by forming alliances with most of South America's north countries. The only two South American countries (scratch that... the only two in the Americas) not allied with the USA are Chile and Argentina. But did get a pleasant surprise when my colonial rival in the Pacific, the Netherlands, extended an alliance offer which I decided to accept. So now I have a reason to get involved in the European wars when another one starts and possibly poach some more colonies from them.

Domestically the Socialists used to rule the USA for a few years until some new policies were passed that shifted the power to the Democratic and Republican parties. The Fascists surged up to gain 14% of the Upper House before being slammed by laws and regulations outlawing many of their practices and have since begun falling back they now control 7% of the Upper House.

 

[Crezth]

Can has save?

Yup. Here you go: Greater Germany.

It's on the eve of unification. All you gotta do when you load up is go to Decisions and fire off Three Hurrahs.

 

[madviking]

Yup. Here you go: Greater Germany.

It's on the eve of unification. All you gotta do when you load up is go to Decisions and fire off Three Hurrahs.

thank you!

 

[grandad1982]

Hi. So after finally getting my copy of AHD to work and playing a few starts with various nations I've settled in to a Sardinia-Piedmont game with the obvious idea of forming Italy. Should say not only is AHD new for me but so is Victoria.

Here's a recap of my game to date. Its the mid/late 1850.

I started by setting my NF in my most populous region and encouraging bureaucrats. Later moved it to Savoy (were my coal is) to do the same but it seem to have no real impact so I moved it back to Piedmont to get my Clergy going.

Mean while I teched mainly to improve my RGO (mix of Commerce and Industry) with Railways and a few culture techs as well.

I started my industrialisation by concentrating on Wine and some basic industrial goods.

In the 40's I got a border dispute CB on Switzerland and pressed the matter. I barely won thanks to my allies. After the war France asked to be my ally and went on to sphere Switzerland so it appears the western half is safe from me for a long time. I really wanted the second source of coal.

Ive been slowly expanding my navy and transport fleet. I used this new force to then turn my attention to Egypt. I started by taking Lebanon (Iron) and then in the next war Palestine (because). In both wars I wanted to take Crete and added it as a war goal but the war leader, France, kept taking peace with out it! I won't invite them next time. My infamy was about 5 so I made a CB on Tunisia to annex but got caught and my infamy is in the high teens. Opps. I haven't pressed this war yet. I still want to take more of Egypt around the Nile delta and the Red Sea.

I've been slowly Liberalising and now have Universal voting with a mainly conservative pop and about 25/30% lib pop.

My main problem is a pop to low for a 2nd NF and working more factories as wel as my RGOs. I'm currently ranked 13 and not that long back I was ranked 9! my Industry score is in 8th place. Muy main weakness is my military but i don't have the pop to up it.

Any advice or tips would be much appreciated!

 

[ZeletDude]

Invade Austria and take Lombardy that is the first step to Italian unification, and it gives you close to a million pops. But be sure to have France get involved on your side.

 

[salty mud]

Been thinking of starting a new game as Russia, with the goal of subjugating as much of Europe as possible. I'm not sure how I should go about this though. I'm thinking of ignoring industry and instead focusing on the military with national foci, and getting a good amount of soldiers and officers. My industry will come when I take over Prussia and their factories.

In all honesty I've never really played a war-mongerer's game in Vicky 2, so I'm probably not aware of the finer points to warfare. I want a modern army capable of doing huge amounts of damage, so army techs will be my first priority. Can anyone give some help regarding what I should do?

 

[Crezth]

Organization techs > tactics techs > attack techs > recon techs > defense techs.

Getting and keeping army organization high is a must which is why focusing on techs that boost org and doing national focus: officers diligently is important.

Other than that, go nuts. You'll have more pop than any other nation in Europe except the UK, and they can't harm you. Beware of Prussia and France at the beginning, though: they start with a lot more leadership and are correspondingly deadly.

 

[madviking]

I would be worried about money, so getting tax techs (first column commerce) and farm production techs (first column industry) wouldn't be a bad idea. Chemistry techs (fifth column industry) to increase support size would also be good.

 

[civ_king]

I would be worried about money, so getting tax techs (first column commerce) and farm production techs (first column industry) wouldn't be a bad idea. Chemistry techs (fifth column industry) to increase support size would also be good.

Medicine also has three techs that give +0.2% pop, combine that with lots of population already and you have massive armies.

 

[Antilogic]

Organization techs > tactics techs > attack techs > recon techs > defense techs.

Getting and keeping army organization high is a must which is why focusing on techs that boost org and doing national focus: officers diligently is important.

Other than that, go nuts. You'll have more pop than any other nation in Europe except the UK, and they can't harm you. Beware of Prussia and France at the beginning, though: they start with a lot more leadership and are correspondingly deadly.

Gotta disagree, I value tactics the highest because of the massive impact it has in reducing casualties. I'd also take Strategic Mobility (adds recon, improves entrenchment, etc.) over any other second-tier tech besides the tactics boost. The balance of attack v. defense is tough for Russia, since you have a mix of narrow and broad fronts. Otherwise, though, I share your emphasis on organization and leadership.



I also agree with civking: medicine is another one of those awesome techs to pick up early.

 

[salty mud]

I always get medicine either first or second. Lots of useful inventions that can come from it.

 

[civ_king]

Gotta disagree, I value tactics the highest because of the massive impact it has in reducing casualties. I'd also take Strategic Mobility (adds recon, improves entrenchment, etc.) over any other second-tier tech besides the tactics boost. The balance of attack v. defense is tough for Russia, since you have a mix of narrow and broad fronts. Otherwise, though, I share your emphasis on organization and leadership.



I also agree with civking: medicine is another one of those awesome techs to pick up early.

The +20 Prestige from Thorax Surgery is pretty cool too

 

[Antilogic]

The +20 Prestige from Thorax Surgery is pretty cool too

Did they nerf it from +50 prestige? They should have, since medicine gave not only comparable prestige to a culture tech but also the population growth, increased troop support, fulfilled part of the colonization requirement, etc. Only a clown would pick one of the early culture techs over medicine.

Seriously, Medicine is an awesome tech.

 

[civ_king]

Did they nerf it from +50 prestige? They should have, since medicine gave not only comparable prestige to a culture tech but also the population growth, increased troop support, fulfilled part of the colonization requirement, etc. Only a clown would pick one of the early culture techs over medicine.

Seriously, Medicine is an awesome tech.

Yup, still pretty powerful.



Anyone else on AHD 2.31 getting massive amounts of craftsmen due to RGO pops not working the RGOs? In one state I have over 100k farmers sitting unemployed while my RGOs have space for 200k.

 

[Crezth]

Gotta disagree, I value tactics the highest because of the massive impact it has in reducing casualties.

Well, in my experience with high-pop armies, the biggest limiting factor isn't population (especially not if you're, say, Russia or China), it's organization. But I don't think tactics is trivial by any stretch of the imagination.

You don't need to suffer fewer casualties than the opponent as Russia, you just need to kill what they have, and not having enough organization can stymie you more than not having enough people (which, again, as Russia is a sort of silly concern).

 

[Antilogic]

Well, in my experience with high-pop armies, the biggest limiting factor isn't population (especially not if you're, say, Russia or China), it's organization. But I don't think tactics is trivial by any stretch of the imagination.

You don't need to suffer fewer casualties than the opponent as Russia, you just need to kill what they have, and not having enough organization can stymie you more than not having enough people (which, again, as Russia is a sort of silly concern).

I wouldn't have concerns with replenishing the manpower of damaged brigades or being able to field enough troops to fight on all the fronts necessary. I'd be more concerned with losing entire field armies, and then having to sit around and wait three or four months to make new brigades while your enemies occupy your territory.

 

[Crezth]

I don't really disagree. I'll try prioritizing tactics techs though and see if it makes my luck any better.

 

[Leonel]

I'm getting frustrated on how to encourage liberals so I can make some damn political reforms. How do you do it? I tried encouraging Liberal Party loyalty in provinces with little to no effect. I'm probably doing it wrong too.

 

[ZeletDude]

If i'm getting this correct -- Party Loyalty doesn't make people Liberal, it makes them more likely to vote for the Liberals, if they are already liberal.. or something?

To increase liberals, wait for the 1840s alot of liberal events happen (if you're in Europe)

 

[grandad1982]

Hmm. Things just went bad in my Sardinia-Piedmont game.

From were I left of I was getting ready to annex Tunisia but I got a free CB against Tuscany due to a debt non-repayment. I jumped on them but I couldn't add the war goal of annexing them as it would have put my infamy at nearly 30. Instead I puppeted them leaving me in mid teens infamy. What exactly does puppeting do? Is only that the will come to fight in my wars or is there economic benefits?

I then used my CB on Tunisia that I had already manufactured. They have been totally covered in rebellions apart from one province so an already easy war got even easier. I annex them.

After this period of war I spent some time working on my National Foci and literacy/tech while waiting for my Infamy to drop.

I don't have many capitalists yet but they are doing an ok job opening factories and building railroads. I wish they would stop wasting my limited wood and coal on factories that won't make a profit, in areas that I wan't my pop in the RGOs (coal, sulphur and metals). I've only subsidised a couple of factories, like my cement factory as it fluctuates and I want it to stay open. If a factory fails I will usually close it.

In this period of growth I gained a second NF and put it to work in my colonies, recruiting Clergy so natural promotion will occur. I had wondered about trying to get bureaucrats but I really need to have ones of an excepted culture. Can I attract them as immigrants from my main pop?

My industry switches between being ranked 7th and 8th whilst my Prestige and Military are lower, I'm ranked 13th overall.

When my infamy was low enough I manufactured a CB to take Dumyat from Egypt. I want to to get Gaza and the Red Sea provinces as well.

This time I didn't ask France to join my war as I was fed up with them not taking all my wargoals for peace (I wanted to add some goals in the war to get Crete(?) and humiliate them). Sadly for me Great Britain has intervened on Egypt's side. I tried to get France to join but at Unlikely the declined and now apart form Tuscany (not going to call Papal States as there is no point) I'm fighting alone. A large part of my army (nearly half) is in Egypt with only 27 thousand in Italy.

I got down to -7 war score at one point but managed to get back to 0 but no one wanted white peace (surprise). Since then even though I hold most of Egypt and I'm not doing to badly in Italy, my war score has fallen away again and I won't be able to stop it sliding more. If I take Status Quo peace I lose more prestige than I even have! Needles to say that is not what I want. If I take it I'm pretty gimped for a long time and my industry will probably starve due to not getting as many materials from the world market.

I've been improving relations with Russia and Prussia for a long while but neither want to ally or seem inclined to intervene on my behalf.

I guess I might reload a previous save unless any one has a bright idea