[RD] How would you define a democracy?

[Hrothbern]

Huh, TIL something about the Netherlands

You mean that normally in NL primary school children eat at home lunch ?

 

[H4run]

You mean that normally in NL primary school children eat at home lunch ?

Going home only for lunch? The little me might not go back at school again if it's like that

 

[Hrothbern]

Going home only for lunch? The little me might not go back at school again if it's like that

haha

When something is a tradition and certainly when something is a routine tredmill.... thinking and choice are eliminated. You just do. No effort, no stress, just time.

The reason behind this all was that traditionally in the Netherlands the warm meal, potatoes, vegetables, gravy, meat and some pudding with (soaked dried) fruit as desert was eaten at lunch time. The whole family including working daddy.
This together warm meal eating, and Christian people together praying, thanking God for the good food, and Protestant daddies odten reading a page from the Bible, was an important part of family tradition.

My school hours were 9.00-12.00 and 13.30-16.00. I did walk a lot (and hurried up eating my lunch to be early back at school to play football ofc before the lessons started)
People working, the daddies, had often 1.5-2.0 hours lunch time to be able to get home and back. And people living nearby took often a nap.

With shifts for factory workers, especially with the three-shift system this all changes over time, increasing commuting time from arising suburbses the firther drive for change. But for children this familymoment is still there. Whereby noted that this is shifting because both parents working happens more and more.

 

[Arwon]

You mean that normally in NL primary school children eat at home lunch ?

Yeah, this is not a thing in Australia at all to my knowledge

 

[Mouthwash]

the assumption is kinda baked into the definition, isn't it? "democracy is where your leaders can be removed without violence" versus (say) "a more democratic society tends to remove leaders without violence"

Not really. You can have a partially democratic regime, why not?

see, that is expressedly not the understanding of democracy on the left. I'll grant that it's not a common viewpoint among the lay public, but then again, very arguably neither is Popper's.

But the difference is a matter of scope - are we talking about democracy for Westphalia-based governments, or are we talking about more local matters being subject to voting? Popper's definition can be applied to both.