I have never been able to taste coke

Hey hey hey, I'm pretty much pro-agro subsidy! I don't want to leave the cost of filling my pantry entirely up to the free market.

As with lots of things, I'm sure agro-subsidies could be reformed but in this instance, I don't know enough about it to even talk about it.
 
They target stable production and end-price at the moment leaving economy of scale to rule the format of production. If you want smaller tractors crawling the fields and less super producers(way harder to regulate 2 million mom and pops than 12 agricorps tho) then you need to change the policies. But the urban don't care enough to go to school to learn about it and the superproducers own the process. So....good luck with that?
 
I don't really know what do do either Hobbs. Inheritance taxes really need to come back in a big way. Which is a non-starter for Republicans. Family farms should probably be exempt on the acreage up to a point, becoming vulnerable to the inheritance tax at time of sale. But the Democrats don't particularly care about anything that benefits a population that typically votes against them. I hope they all burn. :p
 
I thought inheritance taxes did come back in a big way. IIRC, after the 'death tax' went to 0% under Bush, it promptly went back up to pre-Bush-taxcut levels the very next year because he didn't have enough votes to make it permanent.
 
hobbsyoyo said:
I thought inheritance taxes did come back in a big way. IIRC, after the 'death tax' went to 0% under Bush, it promptly went back up to pre-Bush-taxcut levels the very next year because he didn't have enough votes to make it permanent.
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I thought you had to clear 6 million before it kicked. Which family farms can, depending on state/area, on land that pays ~20,000 - 60,000 yearly income. And once that kicks, depending on percentage of the mortgage which has been cleared and the amount of siblings in the picture is enough to liquidate thus being consolidated into a megafarm.
 
Dude farm subsidies are one of those things that everybody talks about (whines about mostly) but nobody really knows what they are. I hear oh they benefit big corporate farms, or they keep our food prices low, or cost us money blah blah. I have no idea, so I can't comment. All I do know is that the US is a huge producer and exporter of corn. No so much with sugar. So it's obviously much cheaper to use a corn product in food vs a sugar one.

It's the same with gas, we add corn produced ethanol to our gas here and some cars run off it entirely. If you go to brazil? The use sugar can ethanol, their cars don't even run on regular petroleum gas. Why? Cus they have craploads of sugar down there.

It's just like taxes, people whine so much about how rich don't pay enough and we need a flat tax rate, without realizing that under a flat tax rate they'll pay more, cus while a rich dude might not be taxed much on his capital gains, poor people are taxed as 0% once all their credits kick in. Me for example, my wife doesn't work, 1 kid, took standard deductions last year. Effective tax rate was around 9%. And I make good money. No way anyone making less than 50k with kids is paying more than 8% federal. Every single flat rate I've seen is a lot higher than that.
 
civvver said:
Dude farm subsidies are one of those things that everybody talks about (whines about mostly) but nobody really knows what they are.
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Fair enough. Here's a good place for a high level start. I don't understand everything myself. Some of that is out of date. I'm pretty sure the big ethanol mandate is dead and I don't think that article covers it? Or I missed it. Or something else. Different crops are subsidized differently too. So you have to keep digging. There's too much to keep up with unless that's just what you do.
 
CavLancer said:
What happened to us in coastal Oregon is a new golf course built on top of the deep wells feeding the town we live in when we're there. Its all sand and that's a natural water purifier. When they covered the dunes with grass and started fertilizing like crazy we lost a lot of interest in drinking the water thpugh.
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Life in prison no parole :mad:
 
CavLancer said:
Long ago the experts used to claim that distilled and filtered water would leach all the good minerals and stuff out of water and blood in the body actually reducing a person's overall health.
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If you drink only PURE water (filtered to the point of it being entirely made of H2O), it will actually kill you in the medium term because of that.

Regular filtered water is a very, very long way from that, though.

As for rehydrating through coffee : of course it does work, but it's suboptimal. Obviously the diuretic properties of coffee aren't enough to dehydrate you, but if you drink enough coffee to cover all your daily needs in water, you either drink piss coffee (and should stop because it's an insult to mankind in general) or you really are overdosed on caffeine (and should reduce your consomption quite a bit and add other beverages to cover the rest of your needs).
 
Not an expert on this one, but to kill yourself on caffeine, you would probably require some kind of overdose that is really not possible to get unless you really try to.

AFAIK, excess caffeine just cause long-term damage over very long period of time, because it's not very toxic but it isn't ever completely cleaned out, so it accumulate and after a long time wreck havoc on your system.
Again, this is from (sketchy) memory about vague things I remember, so don't take it as gospel.
 
Overdosing on caffeine from coffee is not possible. I think it requires drinking something like 100 cups of coffee in a very short span of time. I imagine you'd die from the water in the coffee well before the caffeine in it.

Overdosing on caffeine tablets is certainly possible, however.
 
Akka said:
If you drink only PURE water (filtered to the point of it being entirely made of H2O), it will actually kill you in the medium term because of that.

Regular filtered water is a very, very long way from that, though.

As for rehydrating through coffee : of course it does work, but it's suboptimal. Obviously the diuretic properties of coffee aren't enough to dehydrate you, but if you drink enough coffee to cover all your daily needs in water, you either drink piss coffee (and should stop because it's an insult to mankind in general) or you really are overdosed on caffeine (and should reduce your consomption quite a bit and add other beverages to cover the rest of your needs).
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Anecdotally, hot beverages are less hydrating than cool ones, and while it's almost impossible to overdose on caffeine, it's perfectly possible to drink enough of it to damage your health.
 
Yes hot beverages suck.
 
bhavv said:
Yes hot beverages suck.
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Do your errands on foot in downtown Red Deer when it's -35C and tell me whether your drink of choice at the nearest kiosk or convenience store would be hot chocolate/coffee or an ice-cold Slurpee-type of drink.

Even if you don't drink the hot chocolate, it's good for warming up the hands.
 
So are gloves. Don't forget a scarf and hat.

It doesn't matter how cold it is outside for me, I still end up too warm from simply walking and being adequately dressed for the weather. My beverage of choice throughout the year is whatevers from the fridge.

Also -35 ... Go away with Fahrenheit. Its not exactly warm in autumn and winter in the UK.
 
bhavv said:
Also -35 ... Go away with Fahrenheit. Its not exactly warm in autumn and winter in the UK.
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I don't think you realize how cold -35°C is.
Compared to this, a UK winter is a day at the beach.
 
Oh it was in C, I missed that. I always assume F is used when numbers seem that low or high.

But still ... All you have to do is put on more clothes though.
 
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