Just curious - any opinions on Jones Soda? They use cane sugar in their root beer, and I've found that I rather like that.
I have never been able to taste coke
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BvBPL
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Root beer, generally, does not have caffeine in it (although there are many root beers where caffeine is added).
Narz
keeping it real
Maybe you just live in a place where the tap water tastes really bad. Try a filter?
Dark chocolate pwns soda.
Zack
99% hot gas
Yeah I don't understand people who don't like water. How is that possible?
madviking
north american scum
my college apartment had utterly horrid tapwater. but yea i think filtered water all the damn time.
shadowplay
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This thread kind of makes me want a coke.
CavLancer
This aint fertilizer
Long ago the experts used to claim that distilled and filtered water would leach all the good minerals and stuff out of water and blood in the body actually reducing a person's overall health.
Did these experts discover a better paying job proving global warming, warning us about 2012 or perhaps convincing us we didn't land on the moon or are they in the thickest forests looking for the abominable snow man or something?
Anyone recently hear any of the claims against filtered or distilled water?
Back in the US in Oregon we would go to a stream coming directly from a mountain spring and fill large bottles to take home as our drinking water. Anyone else bother to get water from a non processed source?
Did these experts discover a better paying job proving global warming, warning us about 2012 or perhaps convincing us we didn't land on the moon or are they in the thickest forests looking for the abominable snow man or something?
Anyone recently hear any of the claims against filtered or distilled water?
Back in the US in Oregon we would go to a stream coming directly from a mountain spring and fill large bottles to take home as our drinking water. Anyone else bother to get water from a non processed source?
I used to have access to really good drinking water. The acreage where I grew up had a well, and our water there was wonderful. The neighboring acreage had that too, and I remember the first time we visited them after moving into the city, my grandfather brought along a couple of water cubes and asked if he could take some decent drinking water home.
That was 40 years ago, so that's how long it's been since I've had what I would consider a really good drink of water.
CavLancer
This aint fertilizer
I saw in the other thread that you are in Canada, are there any springs around near you?
What happened to us in coastal Oregon is a new golf course built on top of the deep wells feeding the town we live in when we're there. Its all sand and that's a natural water purifier. When they covered the dunes with grass and started fertilizing like crazy we lost a lot of interest in drinking the water thpugh. In a chat at a local coffee house I learned about the spring and started using that. Wonderful stuff, tastes like...water.
You might be reasonably close to a spring, could check with the old timers or the chamber of commerce or take out a classified add. Worth finding out...
What happened to us in coastal Oregon is a new golf course built on top of the deep wells feeding the town we live in when we're there. Its all sand and that's a natural water purifier. When they covered the dunes with grass and started fertilizing like crazy we lost a lot of interest in drinking the water thpugh. In a chat at a local coffee house I learned about the spring and started using that. Wonderful stuff, tastes like...water.
You might be reasonably close to a spring, could check with the old timers or the chamber of commerce or take out a classified add. Worth finding out...
warpus
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Isn't corn in the U.S. so cheap because your government subsidizes corn farmers up the wazoo?
BvBPL
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Yes, but it is also a lot easier to grow corn than sugar cane or beets in most of the US.
warpus
Sommerswerd asked me to change this
If it's so productive and so easy to grow, why do corn farmers need such crazy subsidies?
Is it just corruption, or... what?
BvBPL
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BvBPL
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There's a bunch of reasons. For one, farming is both an incredibly important industry in the States and it is a very volatile one. Subsidies act as market controls to ensure a relatively steady income for farmers and relatively stable food prices.
And corn is used in a lot of foods. A whole lot. Not just as FHCS and as actual corn, but also as feed for our meat and fish industries.
Plus, we put corn in our cars. Gas is now made party from corn ethanol.
Basically, corn is really important.
hobbsyoyo
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I'm waiting for Farm Boy to weigh in but it's largely a product of history. Sure, it's a super-productive crop, but it's still a crop and prone to catastrophic, bankruptcy-causing failure. The subsidies were originally put in place when family farms were still a big thing. By now, farms in the US have been largely consolidated into large mega-farms that are much less sensitive to the kinds of losses that used to wipe families out.
But once you start a subsidy, it's darn hard to repeal that because the vested interest in that subsidy becomes enormous. And with the coming of mega-farms came big money that is able to get the kind of lobbying power that family farms can't get, which helped maintain the status quo.
The other benefit is that the subsidies means the US has ridiculously low food prices which everyone loves and is definitely good for lower-income families. That alone is worth a lot of subsidies in my opinion.
Also, what BvBPL said.
Farm Boy
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We subsidize the piss out of the rich, out of cars, out of home ownership, out of defense, out of research, out of, out of out of. But it's always the food that's corrupt as if this is an area the government doesn't have interest in from market stability to safety regulation to soil conservation to to to. Guh, whateves I suppose. I think it's a sign of opulent comfort and safety that people can be so widely blasé about calorie production. Feeding ourselves has ever been the primary industry of human endeavor and shall be up until the point where acquiring drinking water or breathable air take it over.
BvBPL
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Yeah. Well, take away price controls on milk and Americans will change their tunes real fast.
