IDEA- Civfanatics Leaderhead making competition?

[TheLastOne36]

EDIT: Idea changed a bit, it isn't going to be everyone making 1 leaderhead, but rather everyone making seperate leaderheads.​

How about a friendly competiton on making leaderheads? We have enough modders for it, and it would be a friendly competiton and for fun.

Basically people sign up for the competition, I make a new 'progress' thread for the competition.

In that thread I will give a leaderhead target, that all competitors will try to make a leaderhead of.

All competitors feel free to show off their progress or ask for help. It may be a competition, but it is a friendly and compassionate one.

I haven't thought of a deadline but the deadline will be 2 weeks to a month. (Modders, tell me which one you would be more comfortable with). Extensions will be given if requested.

Anyone whether they are noob or expert at leaderhead making may join in the competition.

Once the leaderheads have been handed in, I will PM a mod to add a poll to the thread and the members of the forum will vote for who made the best leaderhead. The poll will be running for 3-5 days.

The Winner will receive the title 'Leaderhead Grandmaster' until the next time when they will have make a new leaderhead to keep their title!

If the idea pulls through, i'll pm the mods to make a little story and picture of the leaderhead on the Main Site's page. I will also add a little bit to the Leaderhead Database about the competition.
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That is the basic idea.

I want to see if this idea has enough people interested to make it work, before starting anything.

What do you guys think?

 

[The Capo]

Nice try.

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[The Capo]

I guess I should expound upon that remark a bit.

This idea will waste a lot of time. MOST leaderhead-makers try to avoid making LHs already made by other leaderhead-makers, the purpose is not necessarily because we don't want to outdo one another, but rather because the demand for other leaderheads is out there. So if a bunch of people spend a lot of time trying to make different versions of, say, Nasser. It means there are that many less LH makers working on Tamerlane, Chiang Kai-Shek, or Cetshwayo.

Also we already have a "Leaderhead Grandmaster," and his name is Ekmek.

And, at the risk of sounding extremely cynical; if you want an LH made, either request it or learn to make one yourself.

 

[Vrenir]

Looks like Capo beat me to the punch, but here are my thoughts anyway....

The only downside that I see is a possible waste of resources. We would have X number of modders all working on their own versions of a leaderhead (only one of which will be used) instead of those same modders working on different projects and yielding X number of different leaderheads in the same amount of time.

That said, it might be fun to do this with a leader who is somewhat obscure, not photographed, and whose appearance is up for debate. Then, each of the entries could be more distinct and all could be used as different figures with the winner becoming the official likeness of the target. For instance, somebody like Solomon or Ugaine Mor or Po'Ngbe or Tu'u ko Ihu.

 

[The Capo]

Why don't you just have a monthly "best leaderhead" poll and then at the end of the year all of the leaderheads that are selected get voted on and from there choose the leaderhead maker of the year?

 

[TheLastOne36]

Alternatively there could be multiple leaderheads?

I mean, I could give you guys a list of leaderheads to do, you pick which one you want to do (so we avoid overlapping) and the format stays the same, except everyone is making different leaderheads rather than different versions of one leaderhead.

 

[TheLastOne36]

And, at the risk of sounding extremely cynical; if you want an LH made, either request it or learn to make one yourself.

I'm not doing this for my own benefit.

I was planning on searching through CIVGOLD and seeing which civ needs a leader rather than a reskin or Julius with a hat. As well as searching through the leaderhead request thread putting in some of the more prominent request's.

 

[mechaerik]

Ekmek would win. Hands down. If he didn't enter, then it would probably be Capo.

 

[TheLastOne36]

Not true. I've seen very nice leaderheads from other's such as Gustav Vasa, Haile Sellaise King Arthur and Vlad the Impaler.

Besides it's not about who wins, it's about making leaderheads.

Noone likes the idea i guess.

Well back to EU3.... I'm playing as Wallachia and I intend to form Romania.

edit: Also, Mechaerik, do you have a Leaderhead gallery? If you don't you should make one.

 

[mechaerik]

I only have three leaderheads. I'll make a gallery when I have at least enough for one row.

 

[TheLastOne36]

So the format would be:

I would post a bunch of leaders, and some pics of them in a new thread. The selection will come from much-needed leaderheads, mostly from the leaderhead request thread/ or from the generic leaders in CivGold.

All people who are interested in signing up may do so, and choose a leaderhead they would like to do.

The people in the competition will work on the leaderhead posting updates in the thread. The competition would last for 2-3 weeks. When all the leaderheads are handed in, I will ask a moderator to add a poll, and i will update the OP with the contestant's art.

Poll will last 3-5 days. Winner will be crowned Leaderhead Grandmaster(and i'll convince the mods/admin to add an update on the main site crowning the winner. ) until the next competition where the grandmaster will have to make a new leaderhead to keep his title.

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Now that we are all not making the same leaderhead, are more people interested?

 

[The Capo]

Like I said before, I think the best way to do this (if you really want to) would be to take the LHs made every month and put them up for a vote (you could extend it to two months if you wanted to) and give a leaderhead of the month title for that. Once a year passes you can take all of the LHs that won per month and enter them into the final contest and see which one wins. We shouldn't vote for specific LH-makers because it would ultimately become a popularity contest (or it could at least) but vote on the LHs themselves. That would be the best way to do this if you truly wanted to. Having them compete over specific LHs is sort of a waste of time and effort honestly.

And as mechaerik said, Ekmek would certainly win every time. Which is fine with me, because he deserves it.

 

[TheLastOne36]

We would be voting over leaderheads, not the makers. The owner of the leaderhead that wins the contest would be crowned grandmaster. It would not be a popularity contest.

Well I guess the idea is trashed. I thought i'd be a great idea.

 

[Vrenir]

I wouldn't say "trashed." I rather like Capo's variation. It would encourage productivity and involvement from the larger community beyond pestering modders with requests. I think it could be fun.

 

[TheLastOne36]

With the capo's version we'd basically have a poll of 7 leaders, 4 or so of which would be ekmek's. Also, it isn't as fun, and I wouldn't have the interest to do it.

My version encourages actually getting through the request's made in the request thread.

Going through the first few pages of the Leaderhead Request thread, I found these:

St. Stephen of Romania
Mamohan Singh
Tupa Yupanqi
Lalibela

A few good leader's that nobody seemed interested in doing. I was thinking that this competition would help get those leaders done.
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Well, back to Europa Universalis.

 

[mechaerik]

Capo has a Lalibela in the works IIRC.

 

[The Capo]

Capo has a Lalibela in the works IIRC.

Not only do I have it in the works, it was an LH I "requested" in the sense that nobody requested it until I mentioned I was making it. In fact, IIRC, somebody asked who it was. So it wasn't some common request. From what I can tell you are basically attempting to get requests made under the guise of a contest, which is fine I guess, but I only make LHs that I either need, want, or think should be made.

 

[Ekmek]

What the...

I guess first off thanks to capo and mechaerick for claiming that I'm the grandmaster. If you guys don't recall for the longest time I was a B level LH maker but with C.Roland and the other pioneers not being so active I guess I'm the last one standing.

But on another note we have some great LH makers out there nw, but a competition may not be the way the go.. A better idea would be to find another LH that could inspire a collaboration. I know that when I worked on collaboration LHs I learned a lot more about the art of LH making. So another Collaboration LH bringing in all or most of the LH makers here would do better for the community IMO. So maybe a poll on a LH thats really needed or something would do it.

 

[TheLastOne36]

You mean like Kleopetra?

 

[Vrenir]

I propose Nasser as a collaboration. He's been often requested, regarded as quite challenging to pull off, and could be used for either the Egyptians or Arabs according to preference.