If its your body, should you be able to sell your organs?

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A common argument for legalization of abortion is that "Its her body."

Which is debatable, of course.

An area which is not so debatable, a woman's (Or man's) organs are part of his/her body.

So why should it be illegal to selll them?

I see no good reason for such a law.

Discuss.
 
If it's a woman's body, why shouldn't she be able to sell her organs.

Or you know, have an abortion, since the fetus is also literally a part of her body (connected and such).

Somehow, however, I doubt you subscribe to this.
 
A common argument for legalization of abortion is that "Its her body."

Which is debatable, of course.

Oh man you are clever. This will show women for enjoying sex, the harlots.
 
If it's a woman's body, why shouldn't she be able to sell her organs

Current US laws make it legal to destroy a fetus, but illegal to sell your organs. Iran, ironically enough, is the only country where you can legally sell your organs.

Absolutely, yes, you should be allowed to sell your organs, IMO.

A lot of people, however, support abortion and oppose organ-selling.
 
Maybe it isn't your body after all. All warm bodies will eventually be needed by the state for defense; ergo we ought to prevent people from doing things that might unnecessarily harm their body. Abortions don't harm you, but selling your organs do.

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Oh man you are clever. This will show women for enjoying sex, the harlots.

Hey, don't you know that an entity with no definite status of personhood is more important that a living, breathing woman?

If I was to literally say "The rights of white people take precedent over blacks'" I would be rightfully labelled a racist, but when it comes to Women's rights and fetuses, it's wrong to at all imply that the postition might be even a tad misogynistic.
 
The reality of an organ market is that the sellers would consist of only the most impoverished, desperate members of society, and thus be a market ripe for exploitation. Thus laws against the sale of bodily organs are designed to essentially kill any market that may arise rather than address the rights of potential sellers.
 
It's perfectly legal for you to destroy your own organs.

The evil state is coming for you, aren't you paying attention? We might as well just sign over our bodies to Big Evil Government before they forcibly take them from us! Body welfare is what they'll call it. Government body snatchers will come to your house in the night to redistribute your physical wealth to welfare queen cocaine addicts! :run:
 
False analogy.

It's not illegal to "murder" your organs (hey, it's your vocabulary). It's illegal to sell them. I'm sure it's illegal to sell an aborted fetus as well.

And by the way, pro-choice doesn't mean that you're okay with people being paid for having an abortion. It's really a new low even for you to imply that.
 
Hey, don't you know that an entity with no definite status of personhood is more important that a living, breathing woman?

If I was to literally say "The rights of white people take precedent over blacks'" I would be rightfully labelled a racist, but when it comes to Women's rights and fetuses, it's wrong to at all imply that the postition might be even a tad misogynistic.

Except maybe those who don't allow for a life of the mother exception, we aren't saying that fetuses have more rights than women, but that they have the SAME rights as women.

False analogy.

It's not illegal to "murder" your organs (hey, it's your vocabulary). It's illegal to sell them. I'm sure it's illegal to sell an aborted fetus as well.

And by the way, pro-choice doesn't mean that you're okay with people being paid for having an abortion. It's really a new low even for you to imply that.

I'm aware of this fact. That's not really my point. My point is, the people that say "Its your body" insist on this in areas where it is debatably NOT her body, but will not apply their principles in cases where it is DEFINITELY her body in question.
 
Iran, ironically enough, is the only country where you can legally sell your organs.

How is this ironic? Iran is a horrible dictatorship. They obviously don't view the law as anything but a magnanimous permission.
 
What people in this thread have said is that property rights in one's own body extend to destruction but not sale. Hence, one can destroy one's own organs but not sell them (as you recognize, the analogy with fetuses is flawed at best). Property rights, people are saying, are not unlimited. Owning something does not mean you can do whatever you want with that thing.

I suppose you will respond to this with 'That's not what property rights mean to me!'. I suppose this because I have seen you do it in the past. I would urge you, before trying this response, to also prepare a defence for your interpretation of property rights. It is clearly not the only interpretation of property rights, as evidenced by what has been said in this thread. Indeed, it is an interpretation to which very few people ascribe. To give an example of this, I doubt I am wrong in predicting that most people would say that, even if you owned the last pair of breeding tigers in the world, you shouldn't be allowed to kill them (change this to 'cure for cancer' and 'destroy' if you find yourself in need of more drama). Property rights, it is generally accepted, come with a host of limits. I suggest before you talk about how you think one should interpret property rights, think of at least one reason for us to take your view seriously.
 
Firstly, I would absolutely say you can destroy the group of breeding tigers or the cure for cancer. You own it, you should be allowed to do what you like with it. It really sucks in the cure for cancer case, but still.

That said, I can at least sympathize with it. I do not, on the other hand, understand why you can destroy something but cannot profit off saving someone's life with it. That just doesn't make any sense.
 
Since my body is my property and there are no limits on property etc etc ditto ditto can I sell myself into slavery?
 
Since my body is my property and there are no limits on property etc etc ditto ditto can I sell myself into slavery?

No, bondage is illegal. In the free market, every slave can choose his master.
 
ITT: watch me fail at using analogy to defeat the existence of a right I don't believe in!
 
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