In Which we Discuss Avatars and Custom User Titles VII

[Communisto]

EDIT: nevermind, misread last post

 

[Virote_Considon]

So your idea of pro-Europe is synonymous with a single state?

Yep.

And what exactly is the point of keeping the borders of long gone empires?

You tell me, because that is what Catalan nationalism is all about. The only true borders we need are the borders of the European state itself, not borders within it.

 

[Communisto]

Yep.

Wheres the capital? How it is organized?

 

[Virote_Considon]

Wheres the capital? How it is organized?

I'm not too concerned with where the capital is so long as there is sufficient infrastructure there to be able to run Europe.

It would be organized along regions as most countries are today, but these regions wouldn't necessarily fit along current national divides; that would leave some regions with bigger populations than others.

At the top of government would be three leaders. Each of them would be elected every 6 years, with a 2 year interval between each leader. They would make all the important decisions in the country.

Below them would be seven what I'd call "Ministers of the Land". Each of these would be in charge of introducing new legislation into a specific area of society, such as technology, industry, etc. (the exact sectors are to be decided after more formal review). Each of the Ministers is elected once every 4 years, at a general election. They are put forward by their party, but the electorate gets to vote on each Ministerial position separately; thus weakening party politics in favour of a more merit-based approach.

Below that would be the European Parliament, which would serve the kind of role you'd expect it to serve under such circumstance.

Thats a little on my ideas for this, don't want to go too OT

 

[gangleri2001]

You tell me, because that is what Catalan nationalism is all about. The only true borders we need are the borders of the European state itself, not borders within it.

First, it's Catalan independentism, not nationalism, you better see the distinction. And second, do you really think that a united EU would be a federation like the US? The EU, even if united, will remain a "loose" confederation for a long time. So no, creating new borders is not the problem, specially when the current ones don't reflect national realities. You tell me what would you like most, all decisions being taken this way?

Barcelona => Madrid (hostility) => Brussels

Or this way?

Barcelona => Brussels

 

[Virote_Considon]

First, it's Catalan independentism, not nationalism, you better see the distinction.

Indeed I do - independentism is more harmful to the European dream than mere nationalism. It actively seeks to create the divides, not just promote them.

And second, do you really think that a united EU would be a federation like the US?

No. I'm arguing more along the lines that I'd like to see a unitary state, or at least a united state, rather than a federal state. A federal state would keep the borders on existing lines (i.e. Germany, Spain, even Catalonia could all be "states"). But such divides along secondary*-cultural lines are not preferable - these cultures don't tend to form rigid borders, and thus dividing them into such artificial entities is only a recipe for Balkans-like enmity between groups who belong to one group who would otherwise be in the other.

The EU, even if united, will remain a "loose" confederation for a long time. So no, creating new borders is not the problem, specially when the current ones don't reflect national realities.

As I said above, because such "national realities" don't much create rigid borders, creating new borders along their lines is entirely detrimental.

You tell me what would you like most, all decisions being taken this way?

Barcelona => Madrid (hostility) => Brussels

Or this way?

Barcelona => Brussels

Brussels
______
Wider regional divides
______
Smaller regional divides

Seems good to me. Such divides do not need to be prized out of existing nation-states, they should primarily be based around the sizes of other regions, so that the population of one region and another are roughly the same.

Spoiler * :

Secondary cultural lines = cultural lines stemming from the primary "European" culture.

 

[Zack]

Let's discuss avatars and custom user titles.

 

[Mad Man]

I have both an avatar and a custom user title, isn't it cool?

 

[Lord of Elves]

I have both an avatar and a custom user title, isn't it cool?

The coolest ever. Let's discuss the cool mustache the fellow I have in my avatar possesses. The coolest mustache?

 

[Mango Elephant]

I picked my favorite avatar from this page! I kept The Situation for way too long.

http://www.wowwiki.com/Gallery_of_player_avatars

These were the old avatar on the WoW forum.

 

[Brian Shanahan]

The coolest ever. Let's discuss the cool mustache the fellow I have in my avatar possesses. The coolest mustache?

Not quite as cool as the whole smig if it were on it's own. But yeah it's pretty cool.

 

[Communisto]

Username change. Yay or nay?

 

[Brian Shanahan]

What to communisto?

 

[Communisto]

I was thinking Kapital, its free and simple. Tbh i quite hate my current one. People always seem to think I'm a communist for some inexplicable reason

 

[Zack]

nvm delete

 

[Lord of Elves]

I actually kind of like your current username, Communisto.

@Mango Elephant, I assume you play a Night Elf?

 

[Brian Shanahan]

I was thinking Kapital, its free and simple. Tbh i quite hate my current one. People always seem to think I'm a communist for some inexplicable reason

Might as go the full hog and call yourself Karl Heinrich Marx.

 

[Joecoolyo]

I actually kind of like your current username, Communisto.

Seconded.

And if you're having troubles with people thinking you're a communist, you can always change your user title to "NOT A COMMUNIST"

 

[Cynovolans]

Now switching to Kelis Lil Star 2.0 while looking for a new theme.

 

[Mad Man]

Should I change my Avatar and title or should I keep it around a little longer.