Iran, the Red Sea, and the West (tm).

I'd strongly prefer israel to lose
Wow!:wow:
You okay?
You would prefer the regime that outright murders people like you to win!?😱
You must take the championship's cup for mental gymnastics for this flex!:trophy:
 
It seems Israel overestimated its capabilities to intercept Iranian missiles. Some places in Tel-Aviv look like Gaza now.
Probably not what they expected starting their attack yesterday.
 
Not sure if you're able to understand how close we are to WW3, nevermind that Israel is committing a genocide
WW3 because of Iran!? Bollocks!
I agree Israel leadership should be brought to justice for the atrocities being committed against the Palestinian.
But to cheer for an islamic death cult, particularly deadly against your kind, against an agent that may end up bringing it down sounds mental to me!:crazyeye:
 
in actually not the case ... looking like Gazze and whatnot

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their genocide would be covered better in previous times ; you would think Iran is hurting them and everything they do , even things like the appearance that Netanyahu fooled Trump again which is like way worse for the sake of appearance than the actual case ... is justified . Like , look at that , you would think whole place has gone up in flames .


it is Iran holding back once again for fear of an US intervention and it will be WW 3 too . Merely upholding the unalienable Western right to hit with expectation of nothing in return . This is the way of the bully and rather few can match what they imagine themselves to be ... Don't remember Russia , the West will end up worse .
 
It seems Israel overestimated its capabilities to intercept Iranian missiles. Some places in Tel-Aviv look like Gaza now.
Probably not what they expected starting their attack yesterday.
At least according to BBC, there are only three dead israelis from the hits - and 60 dead iranians from hits by Israel yesterday.
So ultimately there is still a sizable gap in the effectiveness.
 
At least according to BBC, there are only three dead israelis from the hits - and 60 dead iranians from hits by Israel yesterday.
So ultimately there is still a sizable gap in the effectiveness.
Civilians or mostly civilians on both sides, so effectiveness is dubious here.
Terrorist attacks against scientists were no doubt "effective" from Israeli perspective.
 
Merely upholding the unalienable Western right to hit with expectation of nothing in return . This is the way of the bully and rather few can match what they imagine themselves to be

Bombing Iran certainly seems like an act of war.
I guess declarations of war went away a long time ago and no one bothers anymore.

The latest strikes seem like a continuation from last year in 2024 when Iran and Israel attacked each other.
Ultimately Israel took out a lot of Iran's air defenses late last year.

Here is Iran firing back yesterday.


Apparently Israel was extremely effective with its attack.

Also, Israel can target one Iranian general in a building rather precisely, but a Hamas leader can only be killed with 4 1-ton bombs flattening an entire city block?
I guess Hamas leaders are just harder to kill.

Anyone seriously expected Western leaders to condemn Israel and support Iran?

I think I heard on the TV that the attacks on Iran's capital were purely defensive?
:hmm:

Rumors are that any public discord between Trump and Israel was fake.

Despite publicly voicing opposition, US President Donald Trump privately gave Israel the go-ahead for its military operation against Iran, according to a report, citing two senior Israeli officials.

“We had a clear US green light,” Axios quoted one of the officials as saying, claiming Trump’s public disapproval was a calculated move to mislead Tehran and prevent Iranian targets from relocating.

The Israeli operation that began overnight targeted Iran’s nuclear facilities, missile infrastructure, senior scientists, and top military commanders.

The old Pentagon Pizza Index has made another appearance.


Pizza as an intelligence indicator – a quirky form of behavioral OSINT. Observers have noted that when crisis strikes, late-night pizza orders to places like the Pentagon often surge, reflecting staff burning the midnight oil.
 
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the surprise is once again Iranians firing that many , even if the end result falls short of things with let us say more upto date warheads .

and like we like won't hear if Iranians hit anything serious .
 
Apparently Israel was extremely effective with its attack.
It might be, but I wouldn't trust tabloid style article claiming to know what was happening at highest level Iranian government meetings. And other top secret military data, like how many ballistic missiles they were planning to launch.
 

Two days has lasted the Russian style Irani air defense against a proper western style air force. Always according to Israel of course, but all points to it being true:


IIRC there were some clueless self proclaimed experts here arguing about Iran position of strenght or that Israel was dommed or something...
 
Iran also threatened to close the strait of Hormuz, which is Farsi for “we’re just making a stink so maybe oil will go up another $1 per barrel for a few days.”
 
yes , Iranians are once again keeping their effort low so that America will not interfere and it will go away . Talking too much about self proclaimed experts is a strong indication of being a self proclaimed expert .
 
Or the hit by Israel - which started this round - did significantly diminish Iran's ability to launch ballistic missiles.
I am not condoning the preemptive attack by Israel, yet it was so severe than the rather weak reaction by Iran (with next to no dead in Israel by it) can't be explained in any other way than lack of capability to answer back.
 
if a lot people had died in Israel , you wouldn't have heard it . Fascists have taken over the US , they are going to have to be tough on Jews and Netanyahu if he had not started the war he would have lost the no-confidence vote and it would be elections and Netanyahu this time would go to jail if he didn't satisfy the religious extremists and the lot . This is not what Iran can do , if truly cornered . The fighting will go on with Iran wasting rockets , Trump dragging his feet , Netanyahu blabbering the Fordow facility is too deep and they need American bombers and once that threshold is crossed Iran will come under full attack . It is eventually all about Kurds and the requirement for you to fight . Hence , the engine noise the night Israel first attacked , half the aerial branch of Army of Petrol going to Aegean . Nobody is actually asleep in places .
 
No need for this country to fight - let alone that anyone with eyes can tell the government isn't into it and is all-around ridiculous. But I do agree that an inevitable result of a major attack against Iran would be a third kurdish country there. And the fourth will follow :P
 
it is the British defeat in 1922 that needs to be avenged . For stuff . Your country WILL FIGHT . Even before Turkish air pirates start taking out any and every American facility that might support the seperatists and whatever zllies they might have assembled by now in the civil war here .

very much the same in 2007 or 17 .
 
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