Iroqi Communication Thread
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Provolution
Sage of Quatronia
Greetings donsig,
Thank you for your reply to our letter. Now before we get into the
technicalities of the agreement such as 1gpt indefinately is
unworkable and mapmaking is an expensive tech, My government would
like to know, if we were to agree to a peace settlement, what
assurances can you give us that you wont just agree to peace and then
continue your war plans and break the treaty when your immortals
arrive at our cities.
Robi D
Foreign Affairs Consul, Doughnutia
PS- You can have all the goats, we prefer women.
Thank you for your reply to our letter. Now before we get into the
technicalities of the agreement such as 1gpt indefinately is
unworkable and mapmaking is an expensive tech, My government would
like to know, if we were to agree to a peace settlement, what
assurances can you give us that you wont just agree to peace and then
continue your war plans and break the treaty when your immortals
arrive at our cities.
Robi D
Foreign Affairs Consul, Doughnutia
PS- You can have all the goats, we prefer women.
Provolution
Sage of Quatronia
We can give them 20 turns renewable? What about that?
That is the time it takes to get them there anyways.
"Renewable by perpetuity"
That is the time it takes to get them there anyways.
"Renewable by perpetuity"
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Provolution said:
Say your send them me as assurance! I've always wanted to be inside of a hostage situtation!
You can send the following:
The people of Doughnutia, as assurance against our aggressions, we will send you one Prince Strider. Comes packed with an important sounding title (he really does nothing) and several insane and completely random comments.
P.S. Were also tired of him seducing are women.
Provolution
Sage of Quatronia
hehehe, yes, we can send our Crown Prince, our prodigal and beloved Dauphin, Strider, as a hostage to their custody. Yes, we put our 2nd Designated Player in a Hostage Situation.
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Provolution said:
I edited the above post, but I'm just going to post this again (and modify it some).
You can send the following:
The people of Doughnutia, as assurance against our aggressions, we will send you one Prince Strider. Comes packed with an important sounding title (he really does nothing) and several insane and completely random comments. You will fall to your knees in honor of his psyche and vanity. You may keep him for 20 turns, at the end of which we will have to take him back.
P.S. Were also tired of him seducing our women.
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I don't know about you guys, but I like it.
Wording is a bit weird though.BTW, if we do decide to "send me." Lets make sure that we all understand that it means were not giving them any assurances
.Provolution
Sage of Quatronia
heheheh great roleplay, we should send it. Remember, this is still a computer game, and we are here to have fun above all.
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Provolution said:
I want to see what Donsig has to say (If he says anything at all, I take it as being a 50/50 chance. The other half being he chokes and dies after reading it.)
BTW, incase you didn't notice... The P.S. explains the goats
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donsig
Low level intermediary
I'm all for letting Strider infiltrate more Iroqi women, er, I mean be sent as an assurance/insurance policy. I think we should add to the reply Strider already started and make it clear that we are negotiating for peace for 20 turns. We must also address their remark that 1 gpt *indefinately is unworkable and map making is an expensive tech*.
Here are my suggested additions:
Greetings Robi D,
The people of Iroq, as assurance against our aggressions, we will send you one Prince Strider. Comes packed with an important sounding title (he really does nothing) and several insane and completely random comments. You will fall to your knees in honor of his psyche and vanity. You may keep him for 20 turns, at the end of which we will have to take him back.
Aside from Prince Strider and 20 turns of peace we offer the Iroqi people no assurances. Once the peace treaty ends the peace ends unless another treaty is signed to take its place.
My people are not as learned as yours but we do not see how 1 gold per turn in perpetuity is unworkable. As long as your people have gold and pay us this admittedly token tribute it is workable. Do you forsee a time when gold will be as scarce as goats in Iroq? I must remind the Iroqi people that our terms include Iroqi subservience to my great people. The Iroqi must show us due respect and pay us tribute. Once the tribute stops, so does the peace. For now we will not ask for gold in perpetuity. We will ask for a lump sum of 20g now and a payment of 2 gold per turn for twenty turns. We will renegotiate the amount of this tribute if and when the time comes to renegotiate another peace treaty.
My people are ignorant of the cost of map making. It may well be an expensive tech for all we know. Tell us, how many Iroqi cities is it worth?
donsig
P.S. We are also tired of Prince Strider seducing our women.
feedback needed...
Here are my suggested additions:
Greetings Robi D,
The people of Iroq, as assurance against our aggressions, we will send you one Prince Strider. Comes packed with an important sounding title (he really does nothing) and several insane and completely random comments. You will fall to your knees in honor of his psyche and vanity. You may keep him for 20 turns, at the end of which we will have to take him back.
Aside from Prince Strider and 20 turns of peace we offer the Iroqi people no assurances. Once the peace treaty ends the peace ends unless another treaty is signed to take its place.
My people are not as learned as yours but we do not see how 1 gold per turn in perpetuity is unworkable. As long as your people have gold and pay us this admittedly token tribute it is workable. Do you forsee a time when gold will be as scarce as goats in Iroq? I must remind the Iroqi people that our terms include Iroqi subservience to my great people. The Iroqi must show us due respect and pay us tribute. Once the tribute stops, so does the peace. For now we will not ask for gold in perpetuity. We will ask for a lump sum of 20g now and a payment of 2 gold per turn for twenty turns. We will renegotiate the amount of this tribute if and when the time comes to renegotiate another peace treaty.
My people are ignorant of the cost of map making. It may well be an expensive tech for all we know. Tell us, how many Iroqi cities is it worth?
donsig
P.S. We are also tired of Prince Strider seducing our women.
feedback needed...
Provolution
Sage of Quatronia
Looks solid to me, just make sure we get Code of Laws addressed, also make sure that we may call the peace "renewable by perpetuity", and that we want a regular 1 GPT over 20 turns in game agreement. We may also offer to move Xerxes back home, as a reassurance. They really want that wine badly for luxes, and they may feel secure as Xerxes goes for that silk village.
They may think Xerxes go home, but we use him for getting another tech, settler or whatever. This reassurance will give them a false sense of security.
They may think Xerxes go home, but we use him for getting another tech, settler or whatever. This reassurance will give them a false sense of security.
donsig
Low level intermediary
Good idea to restate the complete *offer* - added CoL and writing to the massage and reminded them about the request for the worker. Note that our gold demand has gone up since they demurred on the 1gpt in perpetuity:
Greetings Robi D,
The people of Iroq, as assurance against our aggressions, we will send you one Prince Strider. Comes packed with an important sounding title (he really does nothing) and several insane and completely random comments. You will fall to your knees in honor of his psyche and vanity. You may keep him for 20 turns, at the end of which we will have to take him back.
Aside from Prince Strider and 20 turns of peace we offer the Iroqi people no assurances. Once the peace treaty ends the peace ends unless another treaty is signed to take its place.
My people are not as learned as yours but we do not see how 1 gold per turn in perpetuity is unworkable. As long as your people have gold and pay us this admittedly token tribute it is workable. Do you forsee a time when gold will be as scarce as goats in Iroq? I must remind the Iroqi people that our terms include Iroqi subservience to my great people. The Iroqi must show us due respect and pay us tribute. Once the tribute stops, so does the peace. For now we will not ask for gold in perpetuity. We will ask for a lump sum of 20g now and a payment of 2 gold per turn for twenty turns. We will renegotiate the amount of this tribute if and when the time comes to renegotiate another peace treaty.
Are your people willing to send husbands (a worker) for the Iroqi squaws now living in our lands? Your message was mute on this.
Your message also said nothing of writing and code of laws. Are we to assume that you are willing to teach us these two things for peace? My people are ignorant of the cost of map making. It may well be an expensive tech for all we know. Tell us, how many Iroqi cities is it worth?
donsig
P.S. We are also tired of Prince Strider seducing our women so you would be doing us a great favor by showing him your hospitality for twenty turns...
More suggestions? We should bear in mind that actually using our immortals to fight may result in a premature golden age. Perhaps we should seriously consider a temporary peace...
Greetings Robi D,
The people of Iroq, as assurance against our aggressions, we will send you one Prince Strider. Comes packed with an important sounding title (he really does nothing) and several insane and completely random comments. You will fall to your knees in honor of his psyche and vanity. You may keep him for 20 turns, at the end of which we will have to take him back.
Aside from Prince Strider and 20 turns of peace we offer the Iroqi people no assurances. Once the peace treaty ends the peace ends unless another treaty is signed to take its place.
My people are not as learned as yours but we do not see how 1 gold per turn in perpetuity is unworkable. As long as your people have gold and pay us this admittedly token tribute it is workable. Do you forsee a time when gold will be as scarce as goats in Iroq? I must remind the Iroqi people that our terms include Iroqi subservience to my great people. The Iroqi must show us due respect and pay us tribute. Once the tribute stops, so does the peace. For now we will not ask for gold in perpetuity. We will ask for a lump sum of 20g now and a payment of 2 gold per turn for twenty turns. We will renegotiate the amount of this tribute if and when the time comes to renegotiate another peace treaty.
Are your people willing to send husbands (a worker) for the Iroqi squaws now living in our lands? Your message was mute on this.
Your message also said nothing of writing and code of laws. Are we to assume that you are willing to teach us these two things for peace? My people are ignorant of the cost of map making. It may well be an expensive tech for all we know. Tell us, how many Iroqi cities is it worth?
donsig
P.S. We are also tired of Prince Strider seducing our women so you would be doing us a great favor by showing him your hospitality for twenty turns...
More suggestions? We should bear in mind that actually using our immortals to fight may result in a premature golden age. Perhaps we should seriously consider a temporary peace...
greekguy
Missed the Boat
considering our immortals aren't going to get down there for several more turns, a temporary peace is nice. then when they have Strider and think they are safe, WHAM, we hit them our Immortals and put and end to their puny nation! 
Gunner
Emperor
I love the idea of sending Strider! That last message of donsig's seems good.
Provolution
Sage of Quatronia
Go ahead, send it.
donsig
Low level intermediary
Provolution said:
Our reply has been sent.
Provolution
Sage of Quatronia
Greetings Explosive ones:
The party boat may have sailed, but opportunity is yet in the harbor.
We would be interesting in trading technologies. You have masonry. We are interested in it. What would you take for it?
Come, let us reason together to mutual benefit.
We hope to hear from you soon for the wind is fair, the tide is right and...
I'm sailing away set an open course for the virgin sea
I've got to be free free to face the life that's ahead of me
On board I'm the captain so climb aboard
We'll search for tomorrow on every shore
And I'll try oh Lord I'll try to carry on
I look to the sea reflections in the waves spark my memory
Some happy some sad
I think of childhood friends and the dreams we had
We live happily forever so the story goes
But somehow we missed out on that pot of gold
But we'll try best that we can to carry on...
And the 'best that we can' is to continue the party.
Falicitations:
Kickbooti
Under-Idiot of Talkin' to Forigners for K.I.S.S
The party boat may have sailed, but opportunity is yet in the harbor.
We would be interesting in trading technologies. You have masonry. We are interested in it. What would you take for it?
Come, let us reason together to mutual benefit.
We hope to hear from you soon for the wind is fair, the tide is right and...
I'm sailing away set an open course for the virgin sea
I've got to be free free to face the life that's ahead of me
On board I'm the captain so climb aboard
We'll search for tomorrow on every shore
And I'll try oh Lord I'll try to carry on
I look to the sea reflections in the waves spark my memory
Some happy some sad
I think of childhood friends and the dreams we had
We live happily forever so the story goes
But somehow we missed out on that pot of gold
But we'll try best that we can to carry on...
And the 'best that we can' is to continue the party.
Falicitations:
Kickbooti
Under-Idiot of Talkin' to Forigners for K.I.S.S
donsig
Low level intermediary
Wrong thread Provo - this is from the Galls not Iroq. 
Gunner
Emperor
Haha, I was really confused there for a bit.
donsig
Low level intermediary
Robi D said:
I say we take a hard line:
Greetings Robi D,
You forget that the current price of peace includes map making, 2 gpt and a worker as well as writing, code of laws and 10 gold. Your people would do well to remember all the terms. Perhaps you should write them down somewhere. I would do that for you but I know not how. Funny though how I can remember all these details without your fine technologies.
If your people think that twenty turns of peace is pointless then we will not debate the issue. We will only tell you that the longer you take to submit, the higher the price you will pay for peace in the end. Showing us proper respect now will make subsequent terms more lenient whereas continued resistance will bring progressively harsher terms.
Choose wisely.
donsig
As always, feedback is requested...
greekguy
Missed the Boat
nice donsig. the chances they will sign peace, are slim anyway, but this letter will make them think we are mad. maybe we could scare them a little by adding in a few threats that if they don't sign peace, we will one day destroy their nation?
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