Is Being Gay a Choice, Not a Choice, or both.

[Luckymoose]

Then why don't women get erect when they see breast?

Because they lack penises.

 

[Elta]

Because they lack penises.

Oh man I should have listened to you earlier You've got this Phyiscal/Cultural Anthropology/ Sociology stuff down! Grade school down!

 

[Luckymoose]

Who says women don't get aroused by other women? I know way more bi girls than any straight ones.

 

[Elta]

Who says women don't get aroused by other women? I know way more bi girls than any straight ones.

Everyone I know is a gay male and they pray to the Aztec God Xuaxacockal the god of the erection. I am the only one in my village who is a male and like female breast

 

[Mirc]

Then why don't women get erect when they see breast?

They do like having penises in their mouth though... Don't you think it's exactly the same root as liking to lick/suck on breasts?

 

[mitsho]

If I may speak as one, I see two levels: A biological and a sociological. First, You either like girls or boys or both. Point. There is no way you can get your heart to think different.

But your brain can. You can tell your brain to do otherwise, and believe me I did. It will work in the way that you can have sex, have interesting talks and do cool stuff together and like your partner really. You will want to be together, but you ain't gonna love her or him. That is only the brain telling you.

You know, when you grow up you learn that Girls are what you are meant to go for. First by your parents even as little kids, then in your puberty when all these sex magazines get handed around after gymclass and at last when you are expected to bring a female date to the prom. (speaking of own experience so far). But when you are alone at home and you open google first curiously and then it decides. You will probably type in playboy first, you will look at the pictures and then you will like it OR you will go back and type playgirl in.

That is the decision you can make, you can acknowledge it or you can ignore it or you can ignore it and stay in the closet.

mick

 

[El_Machinae]

Perhaps our natural attraction to women comes from breast feeding or being comforted by mothers as infants? Pretty sure it isn't born that way.

Naw, it happens before then. In the womb.

 

[Erik Mesoy]

To everyone arguing "if you think it's a choice because you can choose then you must be bisexual", I offer this:

I can mark two locations ahead of time, place an object in one of them, leave, convince myself that the object is in the other location, and come back to be surprised by its position. Extreme denial?

I may have used this to edit other, more serious memories, but if I did, I don't remember it.

 

[warpus]

Perhaps our natural attraction to women comes from breast feeding or being comforted by mothers as infants? Pretty sure it isn't born that way.

Perhaps it is a genetic need to want to go out and multiply?

Surely those who went after women had a better chance of passing down their genes. I would guess that this explains why most of us are straight.

 

[erez87]

Luckymoose I was asked every day since I turned 12 or 13 if I have a girlfriend. I knew I didn't want one. Everyone around me focused me on looking for girls. My older brother got it right, my little brother seems to be getting it right. I got it wrong. Explain what made me go gay that is social?

My mom is like you. But only towards me, she thinks there is something that made me gay. I only answer whether its something or not, thats what I am. And she does not find me useless.



And besides that. I remember that they did find the gene that makes chimpanzees or some other monkey type animal be gay. Is that true?
And what would make a fly gay? What brain does a fly has that something could happen to it so it will choose other males?

 

[LucyDuke]

This thread choose to be gay.

No, it was forced by society.

Who says women don't get aroused by other women? I know way more bi girls than any straight ones.

Because they choose to be aroused?

Little boys who watch Ellen Degeneres show become gay.

I can't even be angry with how ridiculous what you're saying is, it's too funny. Thank you for being too funny to be taken seriously.

 

[.Shane.]

No, it was forced by society.

I'm not sure the thread was intelligently designed.

I can't even be angry with how ridiculous what you're saying is, it's too funny. Thank you for being too funny to be taken seriously.

What I find amusing his how so many people will argue w/ trolls whom they can tell are A. completely unreasonable and B. have no interest in doing anything other than being inflammatory. Have we all forgotten the wisdom of simply ignoring people who espouse idiotic/hateful/bigoted/******** sentiments? In so much that they have no power?

 

[mdwh]

For thousands of years, humans have had to have sex with [healthy] women in order to have [their] children [survive]. Nowadays, there are so many new inventions (and children) that this is no longer vital to our survival, so this is possible. That is why until a few hundred years ago, being homosexual was impossible for survival.

Mortality rates were surely never high enough that a few percent of the population being gay would cause extinction! Where are you getting this from?

Birth rates have fallen in developed countries, but this is far more likely due to less children per family, or less people choosing to have children, than any supposed increase in homosexuality.

The human instinct to reproduce, is, however, still here, so the only reason gayness would be possible is by birth defects. The reason it's possible to go back is because humans still have that tiny attraction to the opposite sex, and this can be nurtured and grow to a love.

I guess people not having children is only possible via a "birth defect" too then.

 

[D0NIMATRIX]

I don't know about that lord. I think the rampant homosexuality in prisons is evidence that people can even decide to like sex with men.

That's different, they are forced to it. They don't necessarily like it.

Being gay is a choice. I remember when I was little most of my friends and myself thought girls were icky. But then we realized girls are hot and thus we were hetero. Gays do the same thing sept they pick men.

That, my friend, is called puberty.

*ANCK!* Wrong! I picked girls because everyone else did because everyones parents told them to over the years.

See normal boys are told as small children that they will grow up and meet nice girls and have kids. This puts girls as the correct choice into your mind.

No, you picked them because it's the human instinct. Why would your parents be telling you that? Because their parents told them it. And so on and so on.

Mortality rates were surely never high enough that a few percent of the population being gay would cause extinction! Where are you getting this from?

Birth rates have fallen in developed countries, but this is far more likely due to less children per family, or less people choosing to have children, than any supposed increase in homosexuality.

I guess people not having children is only possible via a "birth defect" too then.

1) That wasn't the issue, keeping your bloodline alive was. When you grow old, there was no way to survive. Your neighbor isn't going to come and take care of you.

2) There is a curb that goes something like this:

First, birth rates are high to compensate for high mortality rates.

Second, medicine and healthcare lower the mortality rate, and the birthrate keeps high because that's the only way everybody knows to keep at least half of their children alive.

Third, people realize that they can have many fewer children to have the same end amount as before, and the birth rate slacks off.

3) I never said that.

 

[Adamb0mb]

That's different, they are forced to it. They don't necessarily like it.

Maybe for the people being forced, but what about the people doing the forcing?

 

[D0NIMATRIX]

You misunderstand, they are being forced by themselves to do it, even though they would never normally do it. The conditions in prison are unimaginably bad, so they resort to any means to get away from it all.

 

[Adamb0mb]

So if they force themselves to be gay it seems to me that they are indeed choosing to be gay. As they could choose to be abstinent instead.

 

[ohcrapitsnico]

So if they force themselves to be gay it seems to me that they are indeed choosing to be gay. As they could choose to be abstinent instead.

I believe that men who are "gay" in prison mainly do so because they aren't going to satisfied by any women and the sexual drive isn't just going to go away unless of course they are actually gay. And as dominatrix said before they use it to get away from being in prison.

Fixed for dominatrix

 

[D0NIMATRIX]

Think about it: You're stuck in prison for maybe five, ten, fifty years. The opposite sex is non-existent. You are only going to be able to have gay sex for pleasure. These people are in one of the worst conditions ever, and they certainly don't want to do it. It is a last resort. And "the guy" has a name.

 

[Adamb0mb]

So, in some situations, some men will choose to have sex with other men for pleasure.

I want emphasize the for pleasure part because it makes the difference between people participating in gay acts due to force or for compensation (prostitution) versus participating in gay acts for pleasure, making them gay.