Is Britain about to leave the EU?

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Will English sales reps suddenly stop buying Audi A4s?
The cost will only go up it the UK decides to apply an impprt tarrif. Is this the plan?

The UK exports more cars to than it imports - will Nissan Toyota and Ford be happy outside the EU?
Edit: actually it seems to be closely balanced.

Will Volkswagen Renault and Fiat be knocking on doors asking for tarrifs on imports from the UK?

I'm not proposing Brexit is the perfect solution, but the best one available for both the UK and EU in the medium and long terms.

Nissan and Toyota have both said they would stay put in the event of Brexit by the way. Who knows what, if any, tariffs will be applied anyway? My earlier point was that German car companies will want a deal with the UK pretty quickly and Germany most likely will force the EU to oblige.
 
There's a lot of definitive statements being made here, which is very strange since any remotely prophetic comment made by the Remain camp is laughed off by the Leavers as they having no idea about what's going to happen. If that's true, Leavers have no idea either and should shut up as well.
 
You should be reminded, Yeekim, that votes have to passed in the EU regional parliaments for any specific sanction or tariff.
Wut?
If UK leaves the EU, its trade with EU will simply revert to common WTO rules.
Tariffs will be new default without any other parliament having to vote on anything.

EDIT: Changing this new default, would, indeed, require a treaty that would have to be approved by all remaining EU countries.
 
Wut?
If UK leaves the EU, its trade with EU will simply revert to common WTO rules.
Tariffs will be new default without any other parliament having to vote on anything.

EDIT: Changing this new default, would, indeed, require a treaty that would have to be approved by all remaining EU countries.

There is no default for all tied (and/or doing business) to the EU countries. Do you think that Turkey is a member of the EU? It does have a customs trade that isn't the same as random other countries have (eg Brazil, Israel, whatever).

Tariffs and sanctions, on the other hand, are the result of specific voting by regional parliaments. As happened in the case of the first sanctions against Russia, and as happened in the case of there being no second (worse) sanctions given our own parliament threatened to vote against.
 
I will say it again. Slowly.

Common... WTO ...rules.

Turkey is part of the EU customs union, fwiw.

EDIT: The very existence of a "customs union" should tip one off that there are common external tariffs.
 
There is no default for all tied (and/or doing business) to the EU countries. Do you think that Turkey is a member of the EU? It does have a customs trade that isn't the same as random other countries have (eg Brazil, Israel, whatever).

Tariffs and sanctions, on the other hand, are the result of specific voting by regional parliaments. As happened in the case of the first sanctions against Russia, and as happened in the case of there being no second (worse) sanctions given our own parliament threatened to vote against.
There is a third country default - look at the dairy example I linked to earlier. Any change to that has to be agreed by the members.
 
There's a lot of definitive statements being made here, which is very strange since any remotely prophetic comment made by the Remain camp is laughed off by the Leavers as they having no idea about what's going to happen. If that's true, Leavers have no idea either and should shut up as well.

I can predict the pound falling in value and helping British exporters which will help with the massive UK trade deficit. I've noticed this is an important point which seems to make Remainers shut up when it's mentioned.
 
I will say it again. Slowly.

Common... WTO ...rules.

Turkey is part of the EU customs union, fwiw.

EDIT: The very existence of a "customs union" should tip one off that there are common external tariffs.

If we vote Leave on the 23rd….. absolutely nothing will happen as far as our relationship with the EU is concerned. The markets will probably throw a wobbly but that will be about it.
It will then be up to our Government to, at some stage, invoke article 50 of the Lisbon treaty which will only then start a 2 year countdown to our exit.
Our Parliament can delay triggering article 50 for some time (years even) while the details such as new trade agreements are sorted out.
Obviously we will be able to start negotiations with the rest of the world during that time too.
We all know how this works. Stuff will be sorted out, give or take, in that period.
 
I am going to be mean but why would the remaining members entertain that? Devoting years of attention to someone who doesn't want to be there but who doesn't want to trigger the leaving process either.

As Schauble said. In is in. Out is out.
 
Because we import gazillions from the EU - more than we export (to the EU).

Edit - Money will talk. Peoples lives and jobs will talk.
 
And until the trigger is pulled and for two years afterwards that continues as normal.
What if it is never triggered?
And how would the other 27 agree positions relative to the UK while the UK is in the room?
There is no practical mechanism for them to negotiate this before notice is given.
 
I can predict the pound falling in value and helping British exporters which will help with the massive UK trade deficit. I've noticed this is an important point which seems to make Remainers shut up when it's mentioned.

Really? Well, it doesn't impress me. If anything, given that I sometimes buy things from abroad, such a scenario would it make it more expensive for me. I'm sorry, but if that's your winning argument, you really need to try again.
 
And until the trigger is pulled and for two years afterwards that continues as normal.
What if it is never triggered?
And how would the other 27 agree positions relative to the UK while the UK is in the room?
There is no practical mechanism for them to negotiate this before notice is given.

I don’t think Westminster could get away with completely ignoring the will of the people.

But there are plenty of backrooms where horse trading like this could take place:

UK: We pay £12bn pa net at the moment. How about, with us out of the EU, we have free movement of goods (the same as now) and pay £4bn pa instead.
Germies: What! We have millions of immigrants to house and feed! How about £8bn pa?
UK: What! We have enough immigrants of our own to house and feed! How about £6bn pa.
Germies: What! We have millions of immigrants to get rid of! How about £6bn pa and free movement of people as well as goods.
UK: Deal!

There will be a lot of weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth both sides of the English Channel initially but I suspect that in the end we will all be much happier. We will be out of the EU having regained our (relative) Sovereignty and the Eurozone can continue unhampered in their quest for ‘ever closer union’.

We will continue to not notice the join between I & NI and will continue to be a member of Europe, if not the EU.
Sorted!
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£6bn a year is still £120m a week, which is only £70m or so off the current figure. Don't you think that such a deal would be politically toxic for any Leave MP?
 
We will continue to not notice the join between I & NI and will continue to be a member of Europe, if not the EU.
Sorted!
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Don't worry we won't let ye forget we're here.
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Really? Well, it doesn't impress me. If anything, given that I sometimes buy things from abroad, such a scenario would it make it more expensive for me. I'm sorry, but if that's your winning argument, you really need to try again.

You need to look at the bigger picture and be less egocentric. A devalued pound is good for British exporters, which in turn is good for the UK economy, which is turn good for wider UK society. More UK citizens being employed in the sectors which export goods and services etc. I'm still voting to leave even with the prospect of imports being more expensive.
 
So, leaving might be good for the UK economy in the short term. Fair enough, but why should I believe that particular economic nugget when the main Leavers have spent weeks pooh-poohing absolutely every other economic prediction that's come their way?
 
So, leaving might be good for the UK economy in the short term. Fair enough, but why should I believe that particular economic nugget when the main Leavers have spent weeks pooh-poohing absolutely every other economic prediction that's come their way?

Some remain campaign predictions will turn out to be true, such as rising prices in some imports because of a devalued pound in my opinion, but there is also a fairly sizeable chance other major currencies will be affected too, such as the Euro.

Many will be speculating Brexit could mean the end of the EU/Euro and the Euro could slump in value too.. which ironically might actually help the EU/Eurozone, since their exports will be cheaper too to the rest of the world. If the Euro stays put or even rises in value, then we can export to them more profitably even without a trade deal falling back on WTO rules/tariffs etc.

Other Remain predictions may turn out to true too, such as the movement of people/workers as well. A post-Brexit UK may have to compromise to allow a certain quota of EU citizens in or some other arrangement.

The problem with the info that emerges from the pro-EU establishment, is that it tends to be the worst case scenarios, so the voting public have kittens over them and the more probable moderate scenarios are archived for their own reference, should the UK vote for Brexit.

I don't believe any of the numbers by either side, be it the saving of the "£350 million to Brussels" from the Leave campaign or the "UK households will be £4300 richer in 2030" from the Remain campaign. They are farcical and it's deeply depressing that they get so much coverage. I'm just going with the underlying principles myself.

Brexit might be good for EU/Eurozone one way or another as it could force their hand into resolving their deeply entrenched problems. Maybe collective debt for Eurozone countries will be put in place(post-Merkel).
 
Why does the UK need to leave the EU in order to devaluate?
 
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