It wasn't only in Haditha...

[C~G]

You're right though , western peoples are now pacified babies that have no idea how to react when 3000+ civilians are murdered ruthlessly.
I do therefore its more like a hand grenade tossed my way, and you asking me to ignore it.

Sorry to make cross-thread-reference question, but why you suddenly care about victims?
After all they were sacrificed for the good of human kind and so are soldiers of US.
Or does this subject touch you personally and you consider these victims to be useless compared to those that were victims of colonialism?

EDIT: Considering your last post I start to agree with Bozo, where are the keys to your car?

 

[Uiler]

Yea Yea, I know. Not only 9/11 either. He attempted to assasinate president Bush. He might have been half responsible for the oklahoma city bombings too. There is eveidence both ways. In the case of the 9/11 commision, they state that he certainly had discussions with Al-queda operatives. The nature of their relationship is unknown.

I'm not alone in this, many people feel this way. Our press has mad it very hard to xpress such an opinion without being blown off though.

He had thw WMD too. We frickin sold it to him after all. Why is it so hard to believe he had it moved out in the 6 months of bsing we did with the UN?

You are now officially put on my "never take anything this guy says seriously again" list. Note that the only other person on this list is a left-winger and anti-Bush. So it's nothing to do with being left-wing or right-wing.

 

[Tulkas12]

No, its still coherent. I know it seems far fetched, but I do consider western society the next step for all of mankind. We have about 1/3 of the world not with us yet. They are the ones who are attacking us. Do you follow? Maybe I should start from scratch.

 

[nonconformist]

Your wlecome.(if your being sarcastic or not) Nice sig btw. lol.

I think you misunderstand.

If you're so intent on winning the war, how come you're not in Iraq?

 

[Tulkas12]

You are now officially put on my "never take anything this guy says seriously again" list. Note that the only other person on this list is a left-winger and anti-Bush. So it's nothing to do with being left-wing or right-wing.

I know its impossible that any of this took place.

I wouldn't blow me off though, at least I'm trying to think. Explain to me why its so hard to believe he moved the WMD. I understand that its hard to believe the Ok city thing. His attempt to assasinate Bush 1 is very well documented though. So tell me, why am I nuts, or drunk or w/ you guys think?

 

[Tulkas12]

I think you misunderstand.

If you're so intent on winning the war, how come you're not in Iraq?

Who says I wasn't?

 

[.Shane.]

I'm not alone in this, many people feel this way.

And "many people" think the earth is flat and that evil demons live in the center of the earth.

Good luck and btw, the tinfoil only increases the waves.

 

[Tulkas12]

And "many people" think the earth is flat and that evil demons live in the center of the earth.

Good luck and btw, the tinfoil only increases the waves.

What is so far-fetched, admittedly the Ok city thing is, but what else is?

Everything else is documented facts. Your guys acting like I'm crazy is just a sign of the power of the press.

 

[betazed]

Who says I wasn't?

So you are/were in the military when you were in Iraq? Or were you in a non-military position?

 

[Tulkas12]

So you are/were in the military when you were in Iraq? Or were you in a non-military position?

National Gaurd. What does this matter though?

 

[nonconformist]

National Gaurd. What does this matter though?

Because it puts more credence into what you're saying.
There's nothing worse that smeone who *****es about it, without being willing to pay the price for it.

 

[betazed]

National Gaurd. What does this matter though?

Oh, nothing much really (except that you just added another data point to a theory I have.)

 

[Tulkas12]

Because it puts more credence into what you're saying.
There's nothing worse that smeone who *****es about it, without being willing to pay the price for it.

What about people to old though? This point of veiw isn't really fair ya know. I understand it, but its not fair.

 

[Tulkas12]

Oh, nothing much really (except that you just added another data point to a theory I have.)

What theory? You have me curious. I like theories.

 

[C~G]

No, its still coherent. I know it seems far fetched, but I do consider western society the next step for all of mankind.

Yes, you have made that quite clear, in fact that is the only point that you have made entirely clear so it's like beacon of light in otherwise dark space.

We have about 1/3 of the world not with us yet.

According to which math?

They are the ones who are attacking us. Do you follow? Maybe I should start from scratch.

They are just trying to colonize you, be friendly and learn their values. It will give you more knowledge and our specie will evolve.

 

[Tulkas12]

Yes, you have made that quite clear, in fact that is the only point that you have made entirely clear so it's like beacon of light in otherwise dark space.

According to which math?
They are just trying to colonize you, be friendly and learn their values. It will give you more knowledge and our specie will evolve.

This is synical in nature. I appreciate it. We should agree to disagree on just about everything I geuss huh?

I believe in mankind. I pray that it gets over all these silly prejudices it has. I hope you understand that. I do however acknowledge that all bad actions have good consequences just like all good actions have bad. I think understanding would be easer if we were face to face. I just agree with the OP. Colinization isn't all bad contrary to popular belief.

 

[C~G]

This is synical in nature. I appreciate it. We should agree to disagree on just about everything I geuss huh?

We might sometimes find something to agree on.

With face to face you never know what might happen though.
Because of Internet we can exchange opinions without trying to kill each other.
I call that progress.

 

[Tulkas12]

We might sometimes find something to agree on.

With face to face you never know what might happen though.
Because of Internet we can exchange opinions without trying to kill each other.
I call that progress.

LOL you'd have to attack first, I'm not a very violent person. I've never killed anyone and haven't been in a fight in some time. I just feel that I communicate better face to face or in like a formal lecture writing, and I'm not quite in tge mode or mood to do that. Generally well founded and source based arguments tend to take alot of time and go largely ignored on forums like this.

 

[Neomega]

Saddam could have moved the WMD's, but not some of the labs required to make the components, which Rumsfeld said "we know where they are"

furthermore, Saddam only had good relations with Syria, and there was no evidence from the no fly zone we were enforcing that Saddam moved materiel into Syria

and furthermore, Saddam certainly could not have had mobile nuclear weapons labs, yet Bush in his state of the Union speech said something he was warned had no evidence behind it, that Saddam tried to buy Uranium yellowcake from Europe, which was completely false.

38 chemical weapons munitions were found, but they were buried and deteriorated, and from the late 80's.

Saddam did not want the UN inspections team in Iraq, not because he had WMD's, but because he thought the UN team was infiltrated with American agents, (and it probably was).

there was one witness who said he saw weapons moved to Syria, a journalist. He wrote the story once, and it was never mentioned again.

 

[YNCS]

Explain to me why its so hard to believe he moved the WMD.

The Americans are going to invade and topple me out of power, so I'm going to take the most devasting part of my weaponry and give it to one of my enemies, either Iran or Syria. That'll teach Bush to mess with me!