silver 2039
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Is Carthage still going to be called Carthage?
It should be called Nova Carthage or something.
It should be called Nova Carthage or something.
ITNES I - An Epoch of Change
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Beep Beep
The empire or the city? The Empire is still the Carthagian empire (composed of Carthagians), but the city will probably be rebuilt as "Kickedyourasstuza" or somesuch by its new owners.
Finmaster
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It is agreed.
@Dach: No hard feelings buddy, its just a game. If yer gonna quit, then I wish you better luck next time. Hope that you don't though, yer a good player. Or would be if you didn't get too emotional every time someone does something you don't like (whats with the "you prick" PM's, mr. Mature Guy?
).
Reno
The Studio Ghibli Fanatic
If you have a problem with something, regardless of it being in pm form. You should report it (forward it to the moderators), then there would be no need to bring it up in the public forums where it doesn't belong.
Reno
The Studio Ghibli Fanatic
Trollish OOC comments aren't really game related.
Reno
The Studio Ghibli Fanatic
I fail to see how it's in charecter to make a trollish comment towards a poster for something they've done in game, unless said trollish comment happens to be a part of IC diplo.
And isn't what we are doing right here and now spam? Whats with the double standarts?
Like I have said numerous times, spam is an unavoidable necessity to NES. If I reported everytime there was spam somewhere here, there wouldn't be much of a community spirit.
Finmaster
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I'm not saying you should report it, or that you are wrong with what you say. I just pointed out that by creating more spam with every post you write to discuss this totally off-topic issue with me, you create double standarts, and you can't deny that, you can only try to justify your double standarts like you did last post.. but you know if you aren't going to take a stand regarding this forbidden thing, then I think you shouldn't be so eager to take a stand regarding other "violations" of rules. Otherweise you act as a judge who creates his own laws.
I think its funny you create these double standarts by spamming while discussing of ways to punish trolling.. am I the only one who sees the irony in this?
I think its funny you create these double standarts by spamming while discussing of ways to punish trolling.. am I the only one who sees the irony in this?
The Strategos
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das
Regeneration In Process
They don't seem particularily interested.
tossi
Der kleine Prinz
orders sent!
Peqas was running. He could feel the tire in his legs, steadily rising like sap in spring, and yet he ran. His pace was not the swift, furious sprint of the hunting cougar, nor the reckless, haughty flight of its prey, the deer. No, he ran like the wandering wolf that was his totem, each step steady and strong, eating a little more of the road ahead, covering vast distances over the course of weeks and months, each step just one of many many more.
Peqas was a skilled hunter, his bow had brought home many a deer to his tribe, yet it was not his aim that had given him this task. Rather it was his stamina, the silent strength that let him follow his prey for hours or days, and carrying home its meat after the inevitable kill. That, and his courage, wit and wisdom. Now he was tired, yet he kept running.
He did not run for his own survival, nor did he run to feed his tribe, for the survival of his nearest kin. This time he ran for the survival of all the People.
In the sack strapped across his back, along with the dried, smoked salmon trail rations and his spare leather moccasines, he carried many a precious item. Knives and sickles of iron lay next to small pouches filled with grain seeds, padded with dried white moss to keep the wet out. These were seeds of wheat and rye, new grains brought by the people in the big ships from faraway lands. These tools and seeds, as well as the ornate golden wristbands and necklaces, he would present as gifts to the elders and sachem of the mighty Ojibwe tribe, so that they would hear his words, and see the truth in them. For even though the gifts were valuable in themselves, they were pale and bland in comparison to the message he carried. A message of hope, of strength and unity, of survival.
He had rehearsed his message many times over during his days of running. He knew it wasn't necessary, his memory would not fail him for many years to come, yet it was something to do while running.
"Mighty Ojibwe, hear the words of the Algonquian Council!" he would begin, and then tell them about the strangers. Peqas had seen the terrifying strength of the Nortuguese army as they marched through the lands where the Mohican lived, had spoken to the fleeing Mohicans who had come seeking refuge with the Confederation, heard their stories about the merciless slaughter inflicted on any who would oppose them. This he would tell the Ojibwe, and he knew they would listen. Yet Ojibwe were a mighty people, proud of their strength, and would not likely be scared by the threat of an unknown people come to claim the land. The Ojibwe would think they were stronger, more capable, more than a match for any invaders. And yet they would be wrong, but they would find out the hard way, too late, if they could not be swayed.
Thus Peqas most important message was that of the Gayanashagowa, the Great Law of Peace. The strangers had not only brought destruction and suffering, but also knowledge, and with it the promises of a bright future. This future would come to the Algonquian people through the Confederation, a union of tribes setting aside their differences and working together for the
good of all. The tools and gifts in Peqas sack would lend weight to his words.
The Nortuguese were not interested in dealing with barbaric tribes, yet in the Confederation they saw the spark of a bright future, and the possibility to achieve a peace in these lands, a security that would benefit their own settlers as much as it would the Algonquians themselves.
Through the Gayanashagowa, the Ojibwe would not give up their independence. They would be ruling themselves in all matters, with a few important restrictions. And they would be given much in return. Peqas again recited the Gayanashagowa in his head, though the words already burned in his heart.
Peqas was a skilled hunter, his bow had brought home many a deer to his tribe, yet it was not his aim that had given him this task. Rather it was his stamina, the silent strength that let him follow his prey for hours or days, and carrying home its meat after the inevitable kill. That, and his courage, wit and wisdom. Now he was tired, yet he kept running.
He did not run for his own survival, nor did he run to feed his tribe, for the survival of his nearest kin. This time he ran for the survival of all the People.
In the sack strapped across his back, along with the dried, smoked salmon trail rations and his spare leather moccasines, he carried many a precious item. Knives and sickles of iron lay next to small pouches filled with grain seeds, padded with dried white moss to keep the wet out. These were seeds of wheat and rye, new grains brought by the people in the big ships from faraway lands. These tools and seeds, as well as the ornate golden wristbands and necklaces, he would present as gifts to the elders and sachem of the mighty Ojibwe tribe, so that they would hear his words, and see the truth in them. For even though the gifts were valuable in themselves, they were pale and bland in comparison to the message he carried. A message of hope, of strength and unity, of survival.
He had rehearsed his message many times over during his days of running. He knew it wasn't necessary, his memory would not fail him for many years to come, yet it was something to do while running.
"Mighty Ojibwe, hear the words of the Algonquian Council!" he would begin, and then tell them about the strangers. Peqas had seen the terrifying strength of the Nortuguese army as they marched through the lands where the Mohican lived, had spoken to the fleeing Mohicans who had come seeking refuge with the Confederation, heard their stories about the merciless slaughter inflicted on any who would oppose them. This he would tell the Ojibwe, and he knew they would listen. Yet Ojibwe were a mighty people, proud of their strength, and would not likely be scared by the threat of an unknown people come to claim the land. The Ojibwe would think they were stronger, more capable, more than a match for any invaders. And yet they would be wrong, but they would find out the hard way, too late, if they could not be swayed.
Thus Peqas most important message was that of the Gayanashagowa, the Great Law of Peace. The strangers had not only brought destruction and suffering, but also knowledge, and with it the promises of a bright future. This future would come to the Algonquian people through the Confederation, a union of tribes setting aside their differences and working together for the
good of all. The tools and gifts in Peqas sack would lend weight to his words.
The Nortuguese were not interested in dealing with barbaric tribes, yet in the Confederation they saw the spark of a bright future, and the possibility to achieve a peace in these lands, a security that would benefit their own settlers as much as it would the Algonquians themselves.
Through the Gayanashagowa, the Ojibwe would not give up their independence. They would be ruling themselves in all matters, with a few important restrictions. And they would be given much in return. Peqas again recited the Gayanashagowa in his head, though the words already burned in his heart.
We are one People.
All man and women of the People are one blood, one flesh, one mighty tribe.
The Council is our eyes, our ears and our voice, who will guide our arms and mind.
Gayanawidah is our father, our guiding light.
Every tribe is unique, yet we are more alike than different.
Together we will stand, progress and persevere where divided we would fall.
All men and women of the People are one blood, brothers and sisters.
We are one People.
All man and women of the People are one blood, one flesh, one mighty tribe.
The Council is our eyes, our ears and our voice, who will guide our arms and mind.
Gayanawidah is our father, our guiding light.
Every tribe is unique, yet we are more alike than different.
Together we will stand, progress and persevere where divided we would fall.
All men and women of the People are one blood, brothers and sisters.
We are one People.
Sheep
Orange Shrooms!
ooc: Carthagians have long since defined themselves as Punics and the Punic Empire. This will continue. The name of the empire now is simply the Punic Empire and in a surprising move this will help the unity of the remainder of the Empire as its is an Empire for all Punics.
To Dacia-Illyria and Luca
From the Punic Empire
The Honourable Supreme General Gisco Hasdrubal Vect, Regent of the Punic Empire in the name of the Holy Punic Emperor Hannibal Barcelona VI of the House of Italcart-Didalia signs the amended Treaty of Gribraltar in the name of the Punic Empire.
To the Empire of Wagadou
From the Punic Empire
We propose that we release and make our treaty now known after the signing of the Treaty of Gribraltar
To Dacia-Illyria and Luca
From the Punic Empire
The Honourable Supreme General Gisco Hasdrubal Vect, Regent of the Punic Empire in the name of the Holy Punic Emperor Hannibal Barcelona VI of the House of Italcart-Didalia signs the amended Treaty of Gribraltar in the name of the Punic Empire.
To the Empire of Wagadou
From the Punic Empire
We propose that we release and make our treaty now known after the signing of the Treaty of Gribraltar
Israelite9191
You should be reading
Gospel of Membertou: Sayings I
These are the words of Membertou, the Holy and Great Prophet. He was baptised in the blood of the Moon, chosen by Sea and Earth. Praises be to His name, and praises be to His words.
"All that is in the Gospel comes down to this: love the Trinity first and above all else, and love your fellow second and above all except the Trinity. Do not allow anything to overcome this, and do not allow anything to come before it."
"Praises forever are do to the Mothers. Sacrifices forever are do to the Mothers. The Trinity gave us life, and sustains our lives. In return we owe them our lives and nothing less."
"Remember always to be generous; to serve the Trinity as They deserve. When you give, do not count the cost; when you fight do not head the wounds; when you toil, do not sek for rest; and when you labor do not ask for any reward, save that of knowing that you are doing their will."
"Our formost duty unto our brethren in faith, and our brethren not in faith, is to do justice. We are called by the Mothers to do justice unto our fellows. Failure to do this is equal to murder."
"All of us are brethren in the Mothers, all of us are united as one people. Though we speak different tongues and trace our lines to different ancestors, in the Mothers we are united as one."
"Do everything for the greater glory of the Trinity."
"The barter of flesh is perhaps the greatest sin that humanity has ever created. Mother Earth gave us freedom, Mother Sea guranteed it, and Mother Moon defends it. To deny this freedom is to deny the Trinity. All slaves have the right to rebel, all slaves have the right to take their freedom by force. Those who deal in the trade in flesh are damned for all eternity."
"Glory be to those who fight for justice. He who dies for the oppressed dies for the Trinity."
"If a man witnesses the destruction of nature, it is his duty to take up arms. To die fighting for Mother Earth is to die a martyr's death."
"A martyr's death is glorious, for in martyrdom the sacrifices of our Mothers are payed back and we can leave this world without debts."
Disenfrancised
Beep Beep
We agree to your trade proposal, but maintain our position on its wording being rather vague.
To Sublimity Members, Allies
From The Kingdom of Dukunnugeya
We must assume Hong Kongs silence on the matter of admitting new members to be the result of lost communications on their part, and thus propose that we continue provisionally. Thus in the spirit of our shared bonds and competition we invite delegates, athletes, and visitors from all the current and prospective states to travel to our great port of Analalava for a tremendous celebration and games. Hopefully these will be the first of many held in cities across the Indian and Great Ocean, we just found it symbolicly apt that it should pass from the westernmost part of the Sublimity, and into the rising sun and our futures.
Orders are sent, and early at that! 
Not that I have all that much to work with at this stage, so they don't take that long to write really...
Not that I have all that much to work with at this stage, so they don't take that long to write really...
Disenfrancised
Beep Beep
To Nortugal, Punic Empire
From Dukunnugeya
We note with some disappointment that war has come to southern africa and the west african trade routes. We wish to remain neutral in your conflict and our ships unharmed, or else we fear we may have to act against the offending side.
From Dukunnugeya
We note with some disappointment that war has come to southern africa and the west african trade routes. We wish to remain neutral in your conflict and our ships unharmed, or else we fear we may have to act against the offending side.
Insane_Panda
Deity
OOC: Huh. It figures that this would happen.
IC:
TO: The Punic Empire of Carthage
FROM: The Empire of Gaul
We ask for peace at pre-war borders. We will continue to fight if the Carthaginian government shows itself unwilling for peace, but we urge you towards a reasonable consideration of the situation at hand. It is true that we have been betrayed by our allies, and it is true that we fight nearly alone against you. However, peace would be beneficial for both sides. We are willing to fight, and though we may be assailed upon all sides, let it be said that should this war continue, we shall bleed your nation until we have been utterly destroyed.
IC:
TO: The Punic Empire of Carthage
FROM: The Empire of Gaul
We ask for peace at pre-war borders. We will continue to fight if the Carthaginian government shows itself unwilling for peace, but we urge you towards a reasonable consideration of the situation at hand. It is true that we have been betrayed by our allies, and it is true that we fight nearly alone against you. However, peace would be beneficial for both sides. We are willing to fight, and though we may be assailed upon all sides, let it be said that should this war continue, we shall bleed your nation until we have been utterly destroyed.
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