ITNES I - An Epoch of Change

Just out of curiosity, how is Nortugal still "Small" size wise, while Iceni is "Medium" even though Nortugal is most likely 3 to 4 times the size of Iceni?

Because I don't keep track of these things all that well. :p It really should be size 2 now. That said, many Nortuguese lands are only occupied, and not yet fully annexed. So they are not considered part of the stats.
 
so is it 1 or 2? I need for orders...
I always considered my population tiny, thats why I started making tribes join my army... get my numbers up...

btw shouldn't there be different education stat for my main country (where my pop is tiny) and to the colonies (where it's growing quickly)?
 
@shortguy: It's a mutual alliance of Solist nations, like Erez said.

From: The Gaelic Empire
To: The Dacoillyrian Empire


We sincerely regret being forced to destroy the Punic Empire, but we hope that you understand our position.

From: The Gaelic Empire
To: Cymru, Iceni, Caledonia


We strongly recommend that you make no agreements with the vile atheist Nortugese, who attacked and slaughtered innocent Solists without cause.
 
Talking about hypocracy? someone here slaughtered Sri merchants... and I'll give you a hint, it ain't me.. And you slaughtered Solists just as well anyway... Frankland...

btw I got a NAP with Caledonia. I jsut want to make sure that they hold to treaties unlike some others...

to DIE:
Maybe Gaul needs to pay for the damage Punicia did to Italy? After all, they now occupy most of them...
 
Talking about hypocracy? someone here slaughtered Sri merchants... and I'll give you a hint, it ain't me.. And you slaughtered Solists just as well anyway... Frankland...

You mean, when they attacked us, or previous to that? As for the merchants, that was a complete accident...and after all, they did stray into the crossfire.

btw I got a NAP with Caledonia. I jsut want to make sure that they hold to treaties unlike some others...

Like the Punic Empire and Nortugal, for example.
 
das what is the light green nation to my south called?
 
To Gaelic Empire
From Caledonia


Indeed, we would be glad to join our fellow Solists in alliance.
 
to DIE:
Maybe Gaul needs to pay for the damage Punicia did to Italy? After all, they now occupy most of them...
From DIE
To Nortugal:
We do not understand your logic, for several reasons.
1) What damage did Punicia do to Italy that we should now demand compensation for?
2) It is not Gaul who controls Italy, it is DIE and Cimberland
3) It is not Gaul who controls most of former Punic territory, DIE and Luca took more land than Gaul. According to your logic, shouldn't DIE and Luca be the ones who need to pay reparations? :p
4) Why should Gauls be the one paying for the crimes of the Punics only because they took Punician land to punish them? I mean, they helped us to get rid of the cancer of Mediterranean, and now they should be punished for it? I do not understand the logic behind this.
 
To Nadruvia
From Greater Nordrike

These are acceptable peace terms to us.

Treaty of the Baltic Sea

1:Your armed forces shall be no greater then 10 ships and 15,000 soldiers,

2:For your support of the Heretics and efforts to stall Divine Justice you shall pay 1 economic point to both of the damaged parties (Nordrike, Mordvin.)

3:You are to persecute any non-Tarunist missionaries within your territory.

4:You must trade exclusively with the Mordvin Empire and Greater Nordrike.

5:A Mutual Protection Pact shall be signed between all 3 parties.

6:Nadruvia cannot enter into any treaty without first consulting Greater Nordrike and the Mordvin Empire.



I think you'll find this is a fair treaty, especially knowing you consorted openly with heretics.

OOC@ erez If you want contact me it will have to be by pm, although I may have some time on saturday to go on Aim/Msn.
 
to DIE:
The war begun When Carthage and yourself invaded Cimberland. That is the only actual damage Carthage have done to the lands of another country. With Gaul being the ones that destroyed Carthage, they should be the ones to pay Cimberland for the damage done to them by Carthage.

t's okay emu...
 
From: Nadruvia
To: Nordrike

Most of those terms we could - if reluctantly - accept. But the fourth one is not acceptable. Trade with Wenedia is vital not only for us, but also for the entire Baltic Sea. To forbid it would be to strangle Nadruvia, and that we cannot accede to.
 
From DIE
To Nortugal
You still failed to answer questions 3 and 4 in our previous diplomatic message.
 
3) It is not Gaul who controls most of former Punic territory, DIE and Luca took more land than Gaul. According to your logic, shouldn't DIE and Luca be the ones who need to pay reparations?
4) Why should Gauls be the one paying for the crimes of the Punics only because they took Punician land to punish them? I mean, they helped us to get rid of the cancer of Mediterranean, and now they should be punished for it? I do not understand the logic behind this.

3. They were the one to destroy Punicia. You were note.
4. Because it's their fault for now stopping the reparations from everyone. We believe they atleast need to send Cimberland 2 ep's.
 
From Cimberland
RE:Nortugal; DIE

Cimberland has taken note of developing diplomacy so far. We know that we will not receive reperations now. We know this now, we knew it when we had our forces in Gaul. We knew this, when the call came for soilders to attack Punicia again for their horrible crimes against Solism. We accept that we will not receive reperations, but we also accept it was damn worth it.
 
From Wenedia
To Nordrike


You will force that nation to stop trading with our kingdom. Also, we think those terms are outragous and are only furthering you power in the Baltic. We find 3,4 and 6 a threat to our secruity and you are making them vassals with little power to run their kingdom.

We are expressing our outrage. Our kingdom wants a balance of power to be maintained so that warfare does not erupt. Your alliance not only tips the balance in your favor but your treaty on Nadruvia overwhelming tips it in you favor.

From Wenedia
To Nadruvia


We have not forgotten the time you assisted us against the Cernorusians.
 
From: Nadruvia
To: Wenedia

If we fail to negotiate an ACCEPTABLE peace treaty with Nordrike, could we then count on your assistance?
 
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