Jeb Bush vs Hillary

[onejayhawk]

Huh??

He mentioned elephants in the room. The symbol of the Republican party is an elephant. The Democrat's symbol is equally unflattering--a mule.

J

 

[Sommerswerd]

He mentioned elephants in the room. The symbol of the Republican party is an elephant. The Democrat's symbol is equally unflattering--a mule.

J

I think maybe he was asking about your assertion that Republicans "seem poised to retake the White House"... My reaction to that was kinda too TBH...

Or maybe he was confused by your statement about Hannity, as in - Huh?? Why would you be confused about people ignoring Sean Hannity's assertion that the next Republican nominee will win? Hannity predicted Romney would win too.

 

[onejayhawk]

I think maybe he was asking about your assertion that Republicans "seem poised to retake the White House"... My reaction to that was kinda too TBH...

Or maybe he was confused by your statement about Hannity, as in - Huh?? Why would you be confused about people ignoring Sean Hannity's assertion that the next Republican nominee will win? Hannity predicted Romney would win too.

I don't listen to Hannity, so I would not know about that. You cannot avoid the commercials.

That said, I doubt it. Romney never gained the kind of traction that points to an election. Contrast last fall.

J

 

[Sommerswerd]

I don't listen to Hannity, so I would not know about that. You cannot avoid the commercials.

That said, I doubt it. Romney never gained the kind of traction that points to an election. Contrast last fall.

J

Wait... you doubt what? That Hannity (or anyone) predicted a Romney win in 2012 Sure they did (politico article)

 

[hobbsyoyo]

In all seriousness, it has been easy to ignore the Republicans under their current leadership, even though they have Congress and seem poised to retake the White House. They are running a commercial with a clip of Sean Hannity saying the next Republican nominee will win the election, but everyone still tries to pretend they don't exist.

J

This is the part that doesn't make sense to me.

 

[Sommerswerd]

Yeah, that's what I thought Did Hannity say that? Or are you (Jayhawk) saying it (that people pretend Republicans don't exist)?

 

[onejayhawk]

This is the part that doesn't make sense to me.

I'm sorry. I thought first part of that statement explained the second one. Even though the Republicans have control of both houses of Congress, all the discussion has been on Democratic issues.

J

 

[Timsup2nothin]

I'm sorry. I thought first part of that statement explained the second one. Even though the Republicans have control of both houses of Congress, all the discussion has been on Democratic issues.

J

This would be due to the fact the Republicans still aren't doing anything to speak of.

 

[JollyRoger]

I don't listen to Hannity, so I would not know about that. You cannot avoid the commercials.

That said, I doubt it. Romney never gained the kind of traction that points to an election. Contrast last fall.

J

Like the fall of 2010?

 

[Sommerswerd]

Even though the Republicans have control of both houses of Congress, all the discussion has been on Democratic issues.

Oh I got it. You are saying the Republican candidates should be getting more attention, based on the premise that since they control both houses, Americans clearly like them, and they have a clear chance to win the election. I am guessing that the reason you think they are not getting the attention they so richly deserve is because of lamestream liberal media bias or something along those lines, right?

Unfortunately, even if some of that were true, the reality is that the lamestream media knows Hillary is going to win, and Fox News knows Hillary is going to win unless they can stop her. And they aren't going to stop her by talking about the Republican candidates, bacause nobody likes or cares about the Republican candidates. They are boring, and everyone knows they are going to lose. Do you care who the Jaguars or the Raiders picked up? No because they suck and they have no chance to be competitive. So they have to attack Hillary just to remain relevant, or they will lose their ratings and advertisers.

So lamestream is praising her, because... well its fun to analyze a contest that you know you are going to win, and Fox, talk radio and the gang are critisizing her out of desperation. Result is Republicans get ignored. Get used to it is all I can say. Its gonna be a long election season (all Hillary, all the time) if you are hoping for a Republican win.

It will be even worse for you if an interesting challenger joins the Democrats... you wont even know when the Republican primaries are being held

 

[Kaitzilla]

Link to video.

Just need one prosecutor who wants to be a legend.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/03/foia-hillary-clinton-email-daniel-metcalfe-116011.html

Daniel Metcalfe, who advised White House administrations on interpreting the Freedom of Information Act from 1981 to 2007, told The Canadian Press that the former secretary of state acted “contrary to both the letter and the spirit of the law.”

“There is no doubt that the scheme she established was a blatant circumvention of the Freedom of Information Act, atop the Federal Records Act,” he said, reviewing a transcript of Clinton’s remarks during her Tuesday news conference. Clinton told reporters she deleted approximately 30,000 personal emails from her private account that she also used as secretary of state.

The FOIA expert said if he had heard of a Cabinet member setting up a personal email system and deciding what gets deleted and what gets kept as government record, “I would’ve said, ‘You’ve gotta be kidding me.’”

“You can’t have the secretary of state do that; that’s just a prescription for the circumvention of the FOIA,” he said. “Plus, fundamentally, there’s no way the people at the archives should permit that if you tell them over there.”’

Metcalfe said that Clinton knows how the Freedom of Information Act works, based on his work with the Clinton administration in his professional capacity.

Nobody cares about the law.
Nixon was right when he said it's not a crime when the future president of the United States does it.

It was worse than a crime, it was a mistake!
How many years did the Chinese and Russians know exactly what our Secretary of State was doing because she couldn't be bothered to have a secure government email?
That's what is unforgivable.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money...suit-to-force-clinton-email-release/70151508/

The Associated Press said Wednesday it has sued the State Department to force the release of government documents and e-mails from Hillary Rodham Clinton's tenure as secretary of State, an action taken a day after she defended her use of a private e-mail account to conduct business and after six formal attempts by the news agency to obtain records.

"After careful deliberation and exhausting our other options, The Associated Press is taking the necessary legal steps to gain access to these important documents, which will shed light on actions by the State Department and former Secretary Clinton, a presumptive 2016 presidential candidate, during some of the most significant issues of our time," AP General Counsel Karen Kaiser said in a statement.

"The press is a proxy for the people, and AP will continue its pursuit of vital information that's in the public interest through this action and future open records requests," Kaiser said.

The Most Transparent Administration in History™
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...empts-executive-office-from-records-requests/

The White House on Tuesday erased a government-transparency rule that required the president’s Office of Administration to make records available to the public, removing the regulation from the books nearly six years after it effectively died under a federal court ruling.

The timing of the move caused an uproar among transparency advocates...

Bwahahahahaha

 

[Timsup2nothin]

And to think that I've mocked people who linked to FoxNews!

From the mission statement of Truth Revolt:

"The media must be destroyed where they stand."

In their entire mission statement there is not a single reference to being truthful or providing accurate information.

Sorry Kaitzilla, but you don't really expect anyone to take that seriously, do you?

 

[Kaitzilla]

And to think that I've mocked people who linked to FoxNews!

From the mission statement of Truth Revolt:

"The media must be destroyed where they stand."

In their entire mission statement there is not a single reference to being truthful or providing accurate information.

Sorry Kaitzilla, but you don't really expect anyone to take that seriously, do you?

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCODE-2011-title18/html/USCODE-2011-title18-partI-chap101-sec2071.htm
^.^

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/hillary-clinton-deleted-emails-not-read-article-1.2147780
Section B is entirely relevant since her lawyers deleted 30,000 emails using a keyword search to determine they were "private" records and not "public"
None were actually read before 30,000 email records of the Secretary of State were deleted.

Sandy Berger got tagged for stuffing 5 documents into his pants.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Berger

On July 19, 2004, it was revealed that the U.S. Department of Justice was investigating Berger for unauthorized removal of classified documents in October 2020 from a National Archives reading room prior to testifying before the 9/11 Commission. The documents were five classified copies of a single report commissioned from Richard Clarke covering internal assessments of the Clinton Administration's handling of the unsuccessful 2000 millennium attack plots. An associate of Berger said Berger took one copy in September 2003 and four copies in October 2003.[15] Berger subsequently lied to investigators when questioned about the removal of the documents.[1]

Berger pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of unauthorized removal and retention of classified material on April 1, 2005. Berger was fined $50,000,[16] sentenced to serve two years of probation and 100 hours of community service, and stripped of his security clearance for 3 years.[1][17]

 

[Timsup2nothin]

And a citing of US Code with no indication that it applies to anything other than the wild interpretations of an organization dedicated to passing off wild eyed madness as 'journalism' is supposed to convince us of what? That there are actual laws? I don't think anyone doubted that.

 

[Kaitzilla]

And a citing of US Code with no indication that it applies to anything other than the wild interpretations of an organization dedicated to passing off wild eyed madness as 'journalism' is supposed to convince us of what? That there are actual laws? I don't think anyone doubted that.

Hillary Clinton might be going to jail is all I'm saying.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...-could-face-jail-time-as-email-scan/?page=all

Hillary Clinton could face jail time as email scandal sparks legal challenges

The Obama administration will soon find itself in court having to explain to federal judges why it never told anyone former Secretary of State
Hillary Rodham Clinton used a secret email address, potentially spoiling dozens of open records requests, experts said Wednesday.

And Mrs. Clinton could face up to three years in prison per message if she is found to have broken her word and handled classified information on the secret account, one open records expert told The Washington Times.

The legal challenges have already begun, with The Associated Press filing a federal lawsuit saying the State Department has foiled five years’ worth of requests for Mrs. Clinton’s emails, but never told them or the court that she kept her own server — meaning that her emails weren’t being searched.

Meanwhile, the White House tried to keep Mrs. Clinton at arm’s length, insisting she alone can answer questions about what she did, and saying that none of Mr. Obama’s aides were involved in helping her decide which emails to turn over to the State Department and which to delete.

Mrs. Clinton’s office remained silent a day after the former first lady and potential 2016 presidential candidate held a press conference admitting she kept a private email server out of “convenience,” belatedly went through and found public records among her emails and then deleted nearly 32,000 emails she and her lawyers deemed private.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Hillary Clinton might be going to jail is all I'm saying.

I don't know that 'doesn't care' is absolutely on the mark. It's just that as campaign exchanges go...

"Your economic policies created a financial crisis that nearly undid the world as we know it."

"Well, Benghazi."

"Your foreign policies bogged us down in two wars where we had literally nothing to gain that cost a fortune. Lives were lost, and we are still trying to completely extricate ourselves from the mess a decade later."

"Well, Benghazi."

...is brutally one sided.

If the US government jails Hillary Clinton for this after letting GWBush and his crew off for their crimes the situation is far more dire than even I have given it credit for.

 

[JollyRoger]

The only way Clinton is going to jail is to visit Rick Perry.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

The only way Clinton is going to jail is to visit Rick Perry.

Why the heck would she visit Rick Perry? Why would anyone?

 

[Sommerswerd]

I'm quoting myself... its happening... oh yes

It's still just a flea bite... The decade old record you mentioned actually works in her favor. The Clintons have successfully been through so many scandals while always remaining politically powerful and relevant... sex scandals, money scandals, military scandals, drug scandals... So now we have what?... An email scandal?? Please

Unless Hillary goes to jail (ala "Planet" Blagojevich), is Federally indicted, or dies between now and the election, she's winning. Period.

The "death-by-1000-cuts" mantra is just wishful thinking and/or media sensationalism to spice up what is going to be a boooooooring landslide election. What the media wants is an epic clash-of-titans... What they have is Hillary sitting in a chair with the trophy sitting on the desk next to her and we are all just sitting there waiting for her to pick it up at her leisure and give her acceptance speech

Called it

Hillary going to jail is all they have left to hope for... And Fox News will lather them up with that false hope like vanilla lotion and baby oil on a stripper

Then watch them dance to the Fox News music while they fight back tears and wonder where it all went wrong...

 

[JollyRoger]