LucyDuke
staring at the clock
That would be prohibitively time-consuming. It'd basically kill YouTube.
Judge Orders YouTube to Give All User Histories to Viacom
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That would be prohibitively time-consuming. It'd basically kill YouTube.
nivi
Call me Ishmael
LucyDuke
staring at the clock
VCRs, baby.
You actually bring up a great point, Lucy. Part of the thing with cassettes, VCRs, etc was that it was not a quality digital representation and therefore really never posed a HUGE threat as far as copyright goes. At least not as much as CDs and DVDs do. I suppose there could be an argument that Youtube's technology isn't that high of quality.
I personally don't buy it, but I wonder if that is a position they could take.
Oddly, there are video websites similar to youtube that are dedicated to showing copyrighted TV shows, with entire backlogs of many shows available to watch.
You'd think Viacom would be more concerned about those sites, rather than one which has measures in place to prevent copyrighted works.
Youtube is horrendous quality.
IIRC, in Italy, the way one of their copyright laws is worded allows for lower quality derivatives to be shared. This would in fact include ANY internet movie downloads (other than 8GB dvd copies or 25-40 GB HD copies) and any mp3 downloads. (Anyone feel free to correct me here on details, I'm not totally sure about this one)
You'd think Viacom would be more concerned about those sites, rather than one which has measures in place to prevent copyrighted works.
Youtube is horrendous quality.
IIRC, in Italy, the way one of their copyright laws is worded allows for lower quality derivatives to be shared. This would in fact include ANY internet movie downloads (other than 8GB dvd copies or 25-40 GB HD copies) and any mp3 downloads. (Anyone feel free to correct me here on details, I'm not totally sure about this one)
LucyDuke
staring at the clock
Do they get as many hits?
Do their parent companies have as much money as Google? (For the suin'!)
Yeah, that was the subtext of my post.
Actually though, just checked a couple of those sites, and they look to be mostly link repositories, so taking them down would involve the same legal mess as with torrent sites which don't actually host anything themselves.
azzaman333
meh
It is not YouTubes responsibility to ensure you don't upload copyrighted material. However, it is their responsibility to remove copyrighted material when they become aware of it.
Mise
isle of lucy
http://www.scroogle.org/ <-- it's a google proxy, basically, and it prevents your info being stored by google.
What's ridiculous is that Google seems to have some sort of tracking script on just about every website I visit. My days of fanboism are over (but I still love G Earth). I block those scripts, but I don't know if Google is collecting info from the sites anyway.
They can. They provide a service, and it's the users who are breaking the law. If I sell you a fine quality replica mediaeval sword it's not my fault if you chop someone up with it.
As explained here:
It seems that Viacom want it both ways. If YouTube is responsible, as filing a court case would suggest, then user data is irrelevant.
If users are responsible for copyright infringements, then the lawsuit itself is pointless, and although the user data is important, the reasons given are insufficient.
Hence their bid should have failed.
Interesting!
AL_DA_GREAT
amour absinthe révolution
Bottom line. If you run a website delete all logs.
innonimatu
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Actually in this instance I think it's people's expectations about the law, and their understanding of the Internet, that is outdated. If it's technically possible to mine information about people's behaviors from their internet use, it'll happen. With ever-decreasing costs of storage, and ever-increasing processing power and software capabilities, people can't escape this.
But they should at least, I don't know, not use gmail for business, or not register with one of those sites that try to aggregate every possible online activity (again Google...).
In a sense it might be better to get rid of privacy altogether. Much of what is not weird and deviant might be found to be shockingly common. And then it would be either tolerance or madness for everyone.
Mise
isle of lucy
I have to say, I don't mind google doing its stuff with my data. I've noticed that adverts I get on this site and others really is relevant to me, and is genuinely useful. It's a nice change from regular untargeted advertising.
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