Jumpmasters 1B: Power is Knowledge (Vanilla, GOTM mod - Emperor - No research)

[AlanH]

I don't think the gospodar is a UU. It's just a unique name for a horse.

Good hunting

 

[Grunthex]

My official got it.
We have 16 Gospodar ready to go, this will kick off our GA (correct?), which will llow us to build more reinforcements quickly. Since the upgrade we are now "Strong" against everyone. Since we are strong I do not think we will get "dogpiled" by the other civs.

No. Gospodar are common horsemen, renamed in this mod. Not a UU - no GA.

 

[DJMGator13]

Quick Summary:

We have two new contacts and are on the verge of another one. Founded four new cities. Captured Canton, Shanghai & Beijing. Razed Nanking, Hangchow & Anyang. Turn 6 sucked lost 4 gospodar and then 2 more in the IBT.
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preturn 550BC
Review of F3 - we are strong against all known civs
Review of F8 - we are about to take on the strongest of the known civs, 14 cities & #1 in Score, Power graph shows us ahead of them
Review of F11 - we are #1 in pop, GNP & prod, but only #9 in land area - also the top 5 cities all belong to unknown civs
No trades currently available
Looks like the BAE could contact CHO with the Great Lighthouse, but they have to sail by our cities first so we need to watch for a galley
mm Kazan unneeded clown - growth & settler both in 3
change Tabriz from warrior to Harbor
mm Ulaan for food
change Darhan from Gospodar to Harbor ( will be out of food on growth next turn)
changed Mandalgovi from barrack to Harbor ( will be out of food on growth)
changed Tosontsengel from warrior to worker ( since there is a warrior on the chokepoint we can use the worker to improve tiles)
wake warrior in Erdenet move towards Ulaangom
wake gospodar in Tabriz move towars Atlay
shift warrior from Kazan to Tabriz

IBT - na - no new techs

Turn1 - 530BC
Ta-Tu gospodar => gospodar
settler founds Uliastay set to worker
No since in delaying the inevitable - dail up Wu-Ti and extort 75 gold (not sure if there is a rep hit for DoW after a successful extortion so I'll wait 1 turn to issue DoW). This will allow us to get defenders into 2 undefended northern cities.

Contact the RAJAs (India): 10 cities, 5 gold, have silk, down furs & we have tech parity with them

IBT -

Turn2 - 510BC
Hovd gospodar => gospodar
Choybalsan gospodar => gospodar
Tsetserleg worker => worker
Dail up Wu-Ti again and tell him he should not be eating cats & dogs & issue DoW

Battle for Canton
vGos vs rSpear - victory (down 2hp) no promo
vGos vs rSpear - inflict 1 hp of damage & dies - spear promos now at 3/4
vGos vs 3/4 vSpear - we are redlined and retreat inflicting no damage
vGos vs 3/4 vSpear - we are redlined and retreat inflicting no damage
vGos vs 3/4 vSpear - victory (down 1hp) promos to elite & Canton is now ours set to warrior
vGos captures worker in the field

Battle for Nanking
vGos vs rSpear - flawless victory promos to elite
vGos vs rSpear - redlines but is victorious & Nanking autorazes

IBT - na

Turn3 - 490BC
Kazan settler => settler
Almarikh FP => Gospodar
Ulaan barracks => worker
change Atlay from warrior to harbor
found the regional intense barbs (almost a dozen of them)
Hans iron hook up is not at Tatung - pillage a road anyway
move troops towards Beijing
Buy worker from KOR for 27 gold

IBT - Hans Bushi (sword) attacks out of Hangchow & kills one of our gospodar but is redlined
Contact Tokugawa (Japan): 11 cities, 22 gold, have wines, down furs & down CoL

Turn4 - 470BC
KK settler => settler
Ulaan gospodar => gospodar
Ereen worker => harbor
vGos takes out the Bushi

Battle for Beijing
vGos vs rSpear - victory (down 1 hp) no promo
eGos vs rSpear - flawless victory no promo - used elite by mistake
vGos vs rSpear - flawless victory no promo
vGos vs rBushi - inflict 1hp of damage and dies
4/5 eGos vs 2/3 rBushi - redlines but wins, no promos & captures Beijing set to temple (to gain wheat)

IBT - Han warrior attacks gospodar and dies we promo to elite

Turn5 - 450BC
mm KK from FP to mHill
vGos attacks settler & spear - wins capture 2 workers
vGos attack rBushi - inflict 1 hp damage & dies
vGos attacks 2/3rBushi - wins and promos to elite
settler founds Bayanhongor (2N of Choyr, near old Nanking) set to barrack
eGos takes out Han archer near Ulistay - no promo

Battle for Hangchow
vGos vs rSpear - victory (down 2 hp no promo)
vGos vs rSpear - victory (down 1 hp no promo) - captures 2 workers & Hangchow autorazes (I have a settler on its way to found a city 1 NW of old Hngchow)

IBT - Han spear pillages fur

Turn6 - 430BC
Tosontsengel worker => Temple
mm KK

Battle for Shanghai
vGos vs rSpear - we die but redline spear who promos now at 2/4
vGos vs rSpear - we die inflicting 1 hp damage spear who promos now at 3/4
vGos vs rSpear - flawless victory no promo
eGos vs 3/4 vSpear - we redline but win no promo
eGos vs 2/4 vSpear - redlines spear than suffers 5 straight losses and dies
3/4 vGos vs 1/4 vSpear - we die and spear now elite at 2/5
move 2 more vGos into position for next turn

IBT - Han counter attacks takes out 2 gospodars
Minoan complete the Great Wall

Turn7 - 410BC
Ta-Tu gospodar => gospodar
Almarikh gospodar => gospodar
Dala gospodar => settler
Erdenet gospodar => gospodar

Battle for Shanghai continued
vGos vs 4/5 eSpear - redline spear but we die
vGos vs rSpear - victory (1 hp damage) promos to elite
archer and spear still in town

eGos takes out spear who pillaged our furs

Battle for Anyang
vGos vs rSpear - we die
vGos vs rSpear - we win Anyang autorazes
change Batshireet from temple to settler ready next turn (go to area where Anyang was)

IBT - Our next opponent is selected for us - Han sign MA with KOR versus us
Barb galley takes out our northern galley - the landmass north of BAE is full of barbs at least 20 if not more of them

Turn8 - 390BC
KK settler => settler
Hovd gospodar => gospodar
Darhan harnor => gospodar
Choybalsan gospodar => gospodar
Tsetserleg worker => worker
Batshireet settler => settler
settler founds Har-Ayrag (on old Hangchow spot) set to barracks
changed Beijing from temple to warrior
dial up BAE they will enter MA versus KOR & give us dyes for furs & 65gold - I do the deal
reduce lux to 20% from 30%

Battle for Shanghai
eGos vrs 4/5 eSpear - redlines but we finally take out that spear
eGos vs vArcher - we win and capture Shanghai & a worker - set to warrior

IBT - Han Bushi kills a gospodar

Turn9 - 370BC
Tabriz harbor => gospodar
Ulaan gospodar => gospodar
Mandalgovi harbor => cat
Add first section to our Palace

settler founds Nalayh set to barracks
eGos takes out another settler spear pair gaining 2 more workers - no promo

IBT - our galley (just South of that northern landmass) survives 2 barb galley attacks

Turn10 - 350BC
Almarikh gospodar => gospodar
Galley spies a new brown border ( if he survives Barb gallies we should have a new contact)
reposition and heal troops

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Notes to next player
1) We are at war with KOR - I have unloaded 2 gospodar in Tosontsengel and there are 2 more on the galley waiting to unload next turn. There is another waiting to board the galley.
2) We have a galley near a new contact if it survives the barbs
3) Han's are down to 9 cities, 6 of which are size 1 and will autoraze if attacked. I would concentrate on Xinjian & the Tsingtao Brewery as the next 2 targets.
4) No new techs were learned by anyone, even with 2 new contacts (the RAJA do not appear on the F4 screen so use the diplo button to access them)
5) I have a settler 2 tiles W of Uliastay, I think one more move west with him and then found city across the river (gains us 2 cattles)
6) I've been searching the points with the galleys but have not sent any suicides out yet. Tokugawa came from the area West of the CHO and NW of the RAJAs.
7) Hopefully you should get a Great Leder soon which should be used to rush our new Palace in Beijing.

The 350BC Save

Our new lands

Next Contact & Where the Barbs Are

 

[Grunthex]

Wow, nice job, Gator!

I think if we take Tsingtao and Xinjian, we could hopefully get Chinan, Chengdu and Tatung in a peace deal -- if not I'd want those cities anyway. Wu-Ti can keep his coastal tundra. Chengdu and Chinan aren't as important as the iron in Tatung for future trades, and to deny Han. They will be first-ring cities some day, but it might be better to shorten the war here to get more horses to Korea.

Xinjian should be moved 1 NW. It'd be on the river, in our 8-ring , and obtain another hill and 2 furs (only thing that tundra has going for it.

It's a shame no one has any new techs for us. Is Emperor normally like this? If so, what have I been afraid of?

I don't really have any more ideas where we go without getting home to see the save.

 

[AlanH]

My, that sounds like a fun set of turns! Well played And more fun to come for all the family with Korea lined up and the Han still to subdue. Is he prepared to talk about peace yet?

After we take Xingjian and Tsingtao it might be worth trying for a couple of size one cities in a peace deal to save having to to replace them. We don't want Chengdu though, as that has to go anyway - it's at radius 4. Then we could focus on Korea for 20 turns, and come back later for the rest of China.

 

[DJMGator13]

Yes he is ready to talk but I never checked what he would offer. Even with the lost units we still have 18 gospodars and we have the free unit support for 50 more units.

Han's are desperate. They are attacking with warriors and the occasional bushi (sword).

 

[Grunthex]

I thought I'd post one of these, since I never have!

- DJMGator13: 'd Han.
- Mistfit: UP!
- AlanH - gettin his pre-game tuneup.
- Nikof (out till the 28th)
- Karasu
- Grunthex:

 

[Karasu]

I can only give a quick glance at our game right now, but does it look good!

@Grunthex: good job too with the roster!!

I'll try to connect later for discussions.

 

[Grunthex]

Yick, we made it to page 2.

It's been 72 hours, are you around anywhere, Mistfit?

 

[Mistfit]

I appoligize guys I have had really piss poor luck with my computer at home. I am going to have to request a skip this turn. I thought replacing the CD drive on it last night would have done the trick but it did not. I won't be able to look at it until tonight again.

 

[DJMGator13]

Roster

- AlanH - UP
- Nikof - skipped (out til the 28th)
- Karasu - Wondering if their will be any Hans left for him
- Grunthex - waiting to get in on the action
- DJMGator13 - Smoking a cigar he lit off the ruins of the Hans
- Mistfit - swap (until computer issue fixed)

Mistfit let us know when you are up and running again. I think we should consider you a swap (not skip) and put you at the top of the list when you get back up.

 

[Karasu]

You may have realized that I didn't connect "later", but after the whole weekend...


I agree with the swap: Mistfit, you can take it after Alan if you are ready. Your punishment will be that Alan is *not* going to leave you any Han to play with...

Btw, I looked at the save. It is a useless recommendation, but... our horsemen need to be regrouped a bit before we can launch our attack on Tsingtao and Xinjian.
Good luck!

 

[AlanH]

Does that put me in the hot seat? OK, I've got it.

I've re-engineered my installation, downloaded and opened the 350 BC file. The whales look like whales and the oysters look OK, so now I'm going to spend a little while getting reacquainted with the game. I'll be back real soon ... maybe with some questions.

 

[DJMGator13]

AlanH - I doubt if you will met more than 3 units in any Han city. But it is time to teach KOR a lesson.

Good Luck

 

[Karasu]

I would expect to find a couple of Spearmen defending, with the possible support of an Archer or a Swordsmen; so, while capture of their cities is almost certain, I would approach them with some caution.

Of course, I agree that our focus needs to be shifted to Korea as soon as possible.
In this regard, I would love to land a few untis and a settler on their visible source of Iron...

 

[Mistfit]

Update: I am planing on getting the deck finished tonight. I will then tomorrow night get the GOTM reinstalled and be ready again. Gator can you P.M. me again with how you set-up your game with two complete sets of Civ saved on it. That screenie was very helpful last time. I'll update tomorrow with my progress.

 

[AlanH]

RL has been getting in my way. Apologies fo rthe delay. I hope to post my turns in 24 hours, so that should fit with Mistfit picking it up in 48 hours from now.

 

[Karasu]

Only four hours left... hopefully... curiosity is killing me

 

[AlanH]

Hmm 16 hours, not 4. Sorry to keep you in suspense!

 

[Karasu]

See? I just couldn't wait!