[GS] June 2019 Patch Details

[CPWimmer]

One problem poor Firaxis has is they called it the June patch as opposed to the Ju patch or the summer19 patch or even the patchy patch.

Yeah I just noticed that today when I was looking at their Twitter posts.
I hope they haven't jinxed themselves!

 

[phasehayes]

Its been 7 days since any update was done and sent over to any of the QA or branch builds. Its be an amazingly long 20 since the windows version was even touched. Last time anything was updated was just hours or less before the livestream. I honestly have no clue what to think now. Maybe today? maybe the 27th, its up in the air now

Genuinely curious, how do you know all that? Are there leaks or did they share that info somewhere?

 

[Reckoner]

Having worked in software projects for the last 1000 years I have to admit that I cannot remember one large project that went in on time.
On support for one this weekend.... 3rd time lucky.
One problem poor Firaxis has is they called it the June patch as opposed to the Ju patch or the summer19 patch or even the patchy patch.

For those who follow the Julian Calendar, June hasn't even started yet!

 

[smvalentine]

We will ship no patch before its time!

 

[timmychompchomp]

Patch notes would be a nice hold over.

I know it is completely irrational or illogical or misplaced to be disappointed about the patch delay, but I am. My expectations may be unreasonable, but they are what they are, and I am disappointed by, what feels like, an unexpected delay without clarification. Is it fair, probably not, but I can't help but feel that way at this point. Patch notes would probably help. Just omit the parts in question and tell us its delayed.

 

[Ovidious]

I wonder if it is getting close to the patch time. I just tried to play my current game and I see that there is a 157mb update

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

Genuinely curious, how do you know all that? Are there leaks or did they share that info somewhere?

There's a third party site that sucks pertinent information out of Steam.

https://steamdb.info/app/289070/history/

 

[tekjunkie28]

I wonder if it is getting close to the patch time. I just tried to play my current game and I see that there is a 157mb update

Idk bout that. I see nothing and SteamDB would update at the same time patch went live. Theres no movement on the western front.

 

[Trav'ling Canuck]

Is super specialization of cities even a thing? I thought that died with Civ 4. It seems to me that we already have the checklist style of play where you will almost always want a science district and a theatre district in every city. I've been waiting for them to bring back Civ 4 style specialization with a patch, but they never do. Wonders or national wonders that give multiplication bonuses for science/culture instead of flat bonuses would encourage people to really manipulate the output of science/culture in one city (which also means building cities with huge population). It seems like they tried to bring this back with the new policy card giving extra bonuses when there's a +4 adjacency bonus and 10 pop cities, but all this did was encourage people to max cities out at population 10 and no more (hardly "tall").

There seems to have been a conscious decision to avoid multiplier bonuses from buildings or wonders or anything else you can build. As a result, as you point out, neither specialization nor large cities are particularly useful.

Instead, the preference has been to add base yields, which personally is the one type of yield I'd eliminate from the game, in favour of bonuses to particular resources, etc. such that what you build in each city is more a reflection of the map, and you'd still need to invest in growing, housing, and entertaining your people in order to get the benefit of the building/district/whatever.

Would love to see some indication in the patch notes that the dev team is re-thinking this approach, but we'll see. At least the additional boost to specialists from powered tier 3 buildings is a boost to the output of a population and not a boost to an unworked building.

 

[Rajendran_P]

It is very disappointing that the soon to be released software patch is taking so Long. If the patch (PC, MAC, and MP) are not ready, why then release patch videos and telling customers that is will be released soon. If not confident to release ‘SOON’ don’t spread fake news and create distress to customers who are eagerly waiting for its release every Tuesday and Thursday. A mature company would at least forecast a timeline or date to be released. Furthermore The World Builder should have been made available Long ago but till now the programmer are delaying with no preplan release date.

 

[SnowKomodo]

I have to disagree with many. As far as I'm concerned, anything within the month is soon. Also, it is called the June patch, not the soon patch, so as long as they are releasing this free patch before July, then it counts as soon, especially relative to how we measure things with 365 days in a year.

In the mean time, I suggest some of you preoccupy yourself with other things. Read a book. Step outside and exercise. Some of y'all sound like you need a production bonus outside of Gathering Storm

 

[Gedemon]

It is very disappointing that the soon to be released software patch is taking so Long. If the patch (PC, MAC, and MP) are not ready, why then release patch videos and telling customers that is will be released soon. If not confident to release ‘SOON’ don’t spread fake news and create distress to customers who are eagerly waiting for its release every Tuesday and Thursday. A mature company would at least forecast a timeline or date to be released. Furthermore The World Builder should have been made available Long ago but till now the programmer are delaying with no preplan release date.

They can't win, because as a costumer I don't want the same thing as you do.

I prefer (by a very large margin) communication using "soon" and "last minute MP issue" than no communication at all until the patch is released.

Do you have an example of mature companies using fixed dates for patches, what kind of development cycle are they using?

 

[oakdragon]

I can't imagine a fixed release date for a patch being anything other than "tomorrow". When they've finished it, it'll be ready the next day.

 

[Stilgar08]

As @Gedemon stated : FXS simply cannot win. They even stated during the livestream that they ran into a yet to be corrected MP issue which postpones the release and still the fanatics get grumpy...
Not being into MP much I would prefer my patch sooner but later but I sympathise with their approach nevertheless. And let's be honest: the vast majority of civ players doesn't care at all if they have to wait another week or two while we here are eagerly waiting. Get out of your bubble.

 

[Wbez]

They can't win, because as a costumer I don't want the same thing as you do.

I prefer (by a very large margin) communication using "soon" and "last minute MP issue" than no communication at all until the patch is released.

Do you have an example of mature companies using fixed dates for patches, what kind of development cycle are they using?

Blizzard (WOW, Hearthstone and OW at least) & Wizards of the Coast (MTGA) both use fixed dates for patches.

 

[Gedemon]

Blizzard (WOW, Hearthstone and OW at least) & Wizards of the Coast (MTGA) both use fixed dates for patches.

Intrigued I made a quick search which didn't return an official date for WOW patch 8.2, what did I miss?

 

[AntSou]

Blizzard (WOW, Hearthstone and OW at least) & Wizards of the Coast (MTGA) both use fixed dates for patches.

Aren't MTGA patches related to the release of new Magic the Gathering Sets?

Same with Hearthstone and Overwatch. Their patches add content. Furthermore Overwatch uses PTR and a dynamic approach to the game. Buffs and Nerfs more often than not aren't fixes, they are an inherent aspect of the game which are used to keep the game fresh. If something turns out to be a bit more OP than the data from the PTR showed, then no biggy, it's a feature, and it can always be brought down in the following patch.

So I don't think these are good equivalents.

Edit: Grammar.

 

[Trav'ling Canuck]

It is very disappointing that the soon to be released software patch is taking so Long. If the patch (PC, MAC, and MP) are not ready, why then release patch videos and telling customers that is will be released soon. If not confident to release ‘SOON’ don’t spread fake news and create distress to customers who are eagerly waiting for its release every Tuesday and Thursday. A mature company would at least forecast a timeline or date to be released. Furthermore The World Builder should have been made available Long ago but till now the programmer are delaying with no preplan release date.

Have to disagree with this. I'd like to see Firaxis communicate more, not less. I'm glad they showed us what's upcoming.

The next patch will be ready when it's ready. I'm not a fan of the idea that the dev team should keep everything under wraps until it's ready to go out the door.

I'd replace your request for fixed patch release dates with a preference for regular updates on what aspects of the game are being looked at and worked on.

 

[Victoria]

I have 0 issue with a patch being delayed "due to unforeseen circumstances" but to tell us the reason is a real lovely break from a standard tradition and I must say I approve.

 

[shaglio]

Patch notes would be a nice hold over.

I know it is completely irrational or illogical or misplaced to be disappointed about the patch delay, but I am. My expectations may be unreasonable, but they are what they are, and I am disappointed by, what feels like, an unexpected delay without clarification. Is it fair, probably not, but I can't help but feel that way at this point. Patch notes would probably help. Just omit the parts in question and tell us its delayed.

Having the Patch Notes to mull over while we wait for the Patch to be released would be nice. The only problem is maybe whatever is causing this MP problem is something they can't fix and will ultimately be scrapped from the Patch. I'm afraid to see the reaction if we fanatics read something in the Patch Notes, get all excited about it, and then find out it's not in the actual Patch.