I'd personally prefer you wait 2 or 3 turns for it to possibly spread to you from the south, but if you insist, sure you can independently develop it.
JustokreNES
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I'd personally prefer you wait 2 or 3 turns for it to possibly spread to you from the south, but if you insist, sure you can independently develop it.
Lord_Herobrine
Back in the Saddle
To: The Strongmen of the Saaruks
From: The Boatmen of Chakarra
Is that a threat, or an offer?
bonefang
Emperor
Can I claim this ?
Karuina
Slightly concerned with the presence of stronger neighbors ...
Karuina
Spoiler :
Slightly concerned with the presence of stronger neighbors ...
Angst
Rambling and inconsistent
When are orders due?
Saturday. But the sooner everyone sends them in, the sooner I can put out the next update.
OOC: I really want to say "whatever floats your boat".
To: The Boatmen of Chakarra
From: The Strongmen of the Saaruks
That is most assuredly a threat. And you'd do well to take it seriously, unless you plan on sailing away in shame and defeat.
North King
blech
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To: Charzu
From: Emperor Achiuka, great-grandson of the serene Emperor Chuchi
In our benevolence, we have allowed your existence. We have granted you the lands on which you plant your crops. We have granted you the rainwater which you drink. We have granted you the lumber with which you build your homes, the bronze with which you form your tools. We have granted you birth and death. We have granted you the sun, and the stars and moon so that your children do not take fright at night. We have granted you the mountain mists and the warm breezes of early autumn. We have granted you smiles. We have granted you grief. We have granted you your kingdom.
Do not try our benevolence.
Terrance888
Discord Reigns
Studies of the Likanae
The Daigemi
The Daigemi, or the Honorable, Spirited ones, is an auxiliary group of people and elephants who displayed extraordinary achievement in the service of the Likanae Confederacy and are so recognized as Daigem by the Council of 600. Although there is some overlap with the Kaijun of the Council, the Daigemi encompasses a different demographic. The Kaijun are, basically, the Patriarch or the Matriarch of various families, clans, and tribes of the Likanae Confederacy. The Daigem are more often clever merchants, cunning explorers, inventive farmers, local heroes, and such. That said, the Daigemi are often seen as more related and more directly accountable and responsible for making important proposals in the Council of Six Hundred and forcing the Kaijun to get off their 'phants and into the council room and pass laws. That is not nearly the case for several reasons.
The main reason is that the title of Daigem has become, traditionally, semi-inheritable. A Daigem would often request his or her heir also be granted the title for several reasons: the main one being that he or she is the heir of a Daigem. The Council of Six Hundred usually verify these appointments, leading to the Daigemi to be consisted of a queer mix of fresh faces who were given the title suddenly after an achievement of some kind, and veterans who might not only be old, but also been groomed to debate and to wrangle in the Daigemi since his or her birth.
The Daigemi is an amorphous group of thus honored and, in a sense, ennobled men and women. The most powerful official ability of the Daigemi is to engage in petition, wherein each Daigem places him or herself, and all his or her supporters behind a proposal for the Council of Six Hundred to pass. Commonly, these proposals are in said fashion: Force the Council of Six Hundred to pass Something within a certain time limit, Ask the Council of Six Hundred to recognize a new Daigem, Ask the Council of Six Hundred to aid a region after a "Catastrophe", Request the Council of Six Hundred to demote a fellow Daigem, and demand arbitration for a local dispute. With the good public relations of the Daigemi, they often have the clout to force the Council to act, and act in their favor.
However, an even more powerful ability of the Daigem is that the Daigemi allows for close cooperation and coordination of markets, 'phant fleet management, ceremonies and celebrations, and other such tasks. Each Daigem has an unofficial "Family" similar to the Kaijun's official family, which the Daigem represents and whose interests they pursue. Taking the form of a second, economic government/management this resulted in the interesting result that Merchants are less independent salespeople looking for profits and more couriers and messengers brining goods from one region to another to meet quotas, requests, commands, or other statements issued by their personal Daigem or the Daigemi as a whole.
An Asside
The Council of Six Hundred is the official government. The Kaijun are the heads of the major households. They have official political power granted by their status in society and by tradition.
The Daigemi is an advisory group. The Daigem are people honored by the Council for various achievements, and which title is semi-hereditary. They have better support and thus unofficial political and economic clout granted by their popularity and recognition of their achievements.
The Daigem and the Kaijun are by no means separated groups.
The Likanae Caste System-The Kanid
In Likanae society, there is a strong sense of tradition and belonging. Each person has various loyalties: to their Kaijun or Kairen (head of family but not in the Council, or head of familiy groups under a Kaijun), to their Daigem, to their Salikae, or followers/family members, to their Kanidae, or equals/friends, and finally to their Kanid, or fellow associates and caste members.
Of these relationships and loyalties, the relationship with one's Kaijun or Kairen, that with one's Salikae, and those with one's Kanid are marked with tattoos.
Generally speaking, one's family will determine one's caste. This is due to the environment that one is brought up in. A Eleph-herder will bring his children to admire his or her fleet. A merchant will take his children to closer meetings. A farmer will have his children help sort seeds or pull weeds. However, one's Kanid is not determined by birth entirely, but rather by a spirit-journey with a Shaman. It is during this journey that one shall discover his or her true self, embrace it, and welcome one's new brotherhood in one's Kanid. The ceremony of the spirit-journy is the last one before one comes fully of age and joins the community of the Junirae.
The Spirit Journey and the Coming-of-Age ceremony shall be discussed elsewhere, as will the other loyalties and the tattoos.
Once one discovers one's Kanid and joins his or her fellow Kanide, one begins to train at his or her new station in life and in society. Each Kanid has a unique relationship with the others: there is no pyramid structure, but rather, a web of respect, derision, service and responsibility. Sometimes, if one's spirit is fit for a Kanid not common in one's own family, they are sent to another family for their training.
By the end of their training, they will have found their exact spot and location in Likanae society, a spot most are satisfied in carrying out until the end of their lives when they shall be cut up and eaten... but that talk is for another time.
As a footnote, Kaijun, Kairen, and sometimes Daigem are all determined by the Spirit-Journey as well. It is well known that those "family" Shamens of the great Kaijun families often become much wealthier during their chosen heir's spirit-journey. A bit of something to prevent bias and spite, of course!
The Daigemi
The Daigemi, or the Honorable, Spirited ones, is an auxiliary group of people and elephants who displayed extraordinary achievement in the service of the Likanae Confederacy and are so recognized as Daigem by the Council of 600. Although there is some overlap with the Kaijun of the Council, the Daigemi encompasses a different demographic. The Kaijun are, basically, the Patriarch or the Matriarch of various families, clans, and tribes of the Likanae Confederacy. The Daigem are more often clever merchants, cunning explorers, inventive farmers, local heroes, and such. That said, the Daigemi are often seen as more related and more directly accountable and responsible for making important proposals in the Council of Six Hundred and forcing the Kaijun to get off their 'phants and into the council room and pass laws. That is not nearly the case for several reasons.
The main reason is that the title of Daigem has become, traditionally, semi-inheritable. A Daigem would often request his or her heir also be granted the title for several reasons: the main one being that he or she is the heir of a Daigem. The Council of Six Hundred usually verify these appointments, leading to the Daigemi to be consisted of a queer mix of fresh faces who were given the title suddenly after an achievement of some kind, and veterans who might not only be old, but also been groomed to debate and to wrangle in the Daigemi since his or her birth.
The Daigemi is an amorphous group of thus honored and, in a sense, ennobled men and women. The most powerful official ability of the Daigemi is to engage in petition, wherein each Daigem places him or herself, and all his or her supporters behind a proposal for the Council of Six Hundred to pass. Commonly, these proposals are in said fashion: Force the Council of Six Hundred to pass Something within a certain time limit, Ask the Council of Six Hundred to recognize a new Daigem, Ask the Council of Six Hundred to aid a region after a "Catastrophe", Request the Council of Six Hundred to demote a fellow Daigem, and demand arbitration for a local dispute. With the good public relations of the Daigemi, they often have the clout to force the Council to act, and act in their favor.
However, an even more powerful ability of the Daigem is that the Daigemi allows for close cooperation and coordination of markets, 'phant fleet management, ceremonies and celebrations, and other such tasks. Each Daigem has an unofficial "Family" similar to the Kaijun's official family, which the Daigem represents and whose interests they pursue. Taking the form of a second, economic government/management this resulted in the interesting result that Merchants are less independent salespeople looking for profits and more couriers and messengers brining goods from one region to another to meet quotas, requests, commands, or other statements issued by their personal Daigem or the Daigemi as a whole.
An Asside
The Council of Six Hundred is the official government. The Kaijun are the heads of the major households. They have official political power granted by their status in society and by tradition.
The Daigemi is an advisory group. The Daigem are people honored by the Council for various achievements, and which title is semi-hereditary. They have better support and thus unofficial political and economic clout granted by their popularity and recognition of their achievements.
The Daigem and the Kaijun are by no means separated groups.
The Likanae Caste System-The Kanid
In Likanae society, there is a strong sense of tradition and belonging. Each person has various loyalties: to their Kaijun or Kairen (head of family but not in the Council, or head of familiy groups under a Kaijun), to their Daigem, to their Salikae, or followers/family members, to their Kanidae, or equals/friends, and finally to their Kanid, or fellow associates and caste members.
Of these relationships and loyalties, the relationship with one's Kaijun or Kairen, that with one's Salikae, and those with one's Kanid are marked with tattoos.
Generally speaking, one's family will determine one's caste. This is due to the environment that one is brought up in. A Eleph-herder will bring his children to admire his or her fleet. A merchant will take his children to closer meetings. A farmer will have his children help sort seeds or pull weeds. However, one's Kanid is not determined by birth entirely, but rather by a spirit-journey with a Shaman. It is during this journey that one shall discover his or her true self, embrace it, and welcome one's new brotherhood in one's Kanid. The ceremony of the spirit-journy is the last one before one comes fully of age and joins the community of the Junirae.
The Spirit Journey and the Coming-of-Age ceremony shall be discussed elsewhere, as will the other loyalties and the tattoos.
Once one discovers one's Kanid and joins his or her fellow Kanide, one begins to train at his or her new station in life and in society. Each Kanid has a unique relationship with the others: there is no pyramid structure, but rather, a web of respect, derision, service and responsibility. Sometimes, if one's spirit is fit for a Kanid not common in one's own family, they are sent to another family for their training.
By the end of their training, they will have found their exact spot and location in Likanae society, a spot most are satisfied in carrying out until the end of their lives when they shall be cut up and eaten... but that talk is for another time.
As a footnote, Kaijun, Kairen, and sometimes Daigem are all determined by the Spirit-Journey as well. It is well known that those "family" Shamens of the great Kaijun families often become much wealthier during their chosen heir's spirit-journey. A bit of something to prevent bias and spite, of course!
Can I claim this ?
Karuina
Spoiler :
Slightly concerned with the presence of stronger neighbors ...
Of course! Welcome. Good luck.
We will not accept a gratuitously unfair exchange- let us make an even trade, or none at all. I, Charipit of Kichatra, shall travel to Saaruka and build you ships. In exchange, you shall dispatch a strong warrior and mentor to teach our own people in the ways of war. This exchange shall take place under oath, overseen by the Khatakanti of Kichatra on our side, and by your own Khatakanti, or whoever possesses similar importance in Saaruka.
You currently are aware of and have conducted trade with the Bexna tribes (soon to be the states of Bexnia and Pulia), an emerging city state called Lenos Chita to your south, and Nugai.
Bronze-Nun River Cradle players,
Here is a quick map I made of the region, for reference. Apologies for poor photoshopping skills.
Spoiler :
EDIT: The cursive font represents city-states with an electoral form of government, whilst those is bold Algerian font are autocratic.
Angst
Rambling and inconsistent
To: Syenit
From: Kechyk
Neighbours to the south! Times are rough, and harvest may fail us this year - our mystics could not parse the signs of the stars, and so we are unsure if that may be the case. However, our mystics predict that at least your nation will be showered by good rain. As proclaimed by our common gods, and the true earthen god, God-king Omair, your relief would be a great blessing in these dire times. It is a deed not forgotten by our gods! If you send us a small sum of 100,000 shek each year, from this day till the end of days, we will be sure to remember till the end of days. If you refuse, however, you have commited hubris against the God-king. We remind you that we supply your nation with the copper needed to sustain your armies' weaponry. Do not bring His wrath upon you, as it will only be just.
Kechyk asks for Syenit to pay Kechyk 1 Economy Point per turn in return for protection. It is as well hinted at that Syenit should implicitly accept the Kechyk God-king as their avatar of the gods as well.
From: Kechyk
Neighbours to the south! Times are rough, and harvest may fail us this year - our mystics could not parse the signs of the stars, and so we are unsure if that may be the case. However, our mystics predict that at least your nation will be showered by good rain. As proclaimed by our common gods, and the true earthen god, God-king Omair, your relief would be a great blessing in these dire times. It is a deed not forgotten by our gods! If you send us a small sum of 100,000 shek each year, from this day till the end of days, we will be sure to remember till the end of days. If you refuse, however, you have commited hubris against the God-king. We remind you that we supply your nation with the copper needed to sustain your armies' weaponry. Do not bring His wrath upon you, as it will only be just.
Kechyk asks for Syenit to pay Kechyk 1 Economy Point per turn in return for protection. It is as well hinted at that Syenit should implicitly accept the Kechyk God-king as their avatar of the gods as well.
erez87
Lord of Random
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I am well aware of the diplomacy. Consider the lack of response as a response. (Not an aggressive one, just a, we don't care who you are or what you want one).You have some diplomacy from Tyrica waiting for you, maybe that will help
To Kechyk
From Syenit
We care not if we are forgotten by your Gods or your people - in fact, that is preferable to being solicited for our hard-earned wealth. We will send you a small gift this year, but this will not be an annual gift. We highly recommend you put it to good use in regards to your future.
