Mistfit
Deity
Clear as mud. I'd say if we don't hear from Gator by late tommorow he would not mind being swapped again. But that is my opinion. And we all know that quote.
KA01 - A Simple Deity Space Race
- Thread starter Karasu
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Well, Gator said he would be able to check every day -but that it may take a few more days before he can play again.
So, I would wait for this evening (US time) in case he can get it, otherwise it will be Tomoyo's turn.
Regarding wars: that's a point we need to discuss. I think we all agree that we need some more room, and the Celts are kindly providing that. England (or France) may be a good target (as usual...
), to be confirmed at a later stage.
But as soon as we have two well developed core, I am not sure that we have to keep on expanding: our main (and dare I say 'only') goal is a fast launch, and a high score would only come as a bonus.
In this sense, we should certainly try to be able to support four-turns research as quickly as possible.
But for a faster tech pace, I would also look for as many strong AIs as possible to trade with -or not?
This is also the reason why I would not completely exterminate any civ, especially the scientific ones.
So, I would wait for this evening (US time) in case he can get it, otherwise it will be Tomoyo's turn.
Regarding wars: that's a point we need to discuss. I think we all agree that we need some more room, and the Celts are kindly providing that. England (or France) may be a good target (as usual...
), to be confirmed at a later stage.But as soon as we have two well developed core, I am not sure that we have to keep on expanding: our main (and dare I say 'only') goal is a fast launch, and a high score would only come as a bonus.
In this sense, we should certainly try to be able to support four-turns research as quickly as possible.
But for a faster tech pace, I would also look for as many strong AIs as possible to trade with -or not?
This is also the reason why I would not completely exterminate any civ, especially the scientific ones.
We may only need to keep one scientific civ around as a pet.
In vanilla 1.29 all scientfic civs (almost) always get the same freebie - Monotheism at Medieval, Nationalism at Industrial and, ISTR, Rocketry at Modern - so two or more won't help us here. They do also get cheap Libraries and Universities, but I'm not sure they'll use them very effectively once we hit 4 turn rate, particularly if we cut them down in size. They tend to go off and research optional techs that are pretty useless by and large.
In vanilla 1.29 all scientfic civs (almost) always get the same freebie - Monotheism at Medieval, Nationalism at Industrial and, ISTR, Rocketry at Modern - so two or more won't help us here. They do also get cheap Libraries and Universities, but I'm not sure they'll use them very effectively once we hit 4 turn rate, particularly if we cut them down in size. They tend to go off and research optional techs that are pretty useless by and large.
True. My reasoning is that if we have two scientific civs, their free tech will be cheaper to buy -even though admittedly this may not make a big difference.
Mistfit
Deity
Gator said:
According to Gator the only Scientific Civ out there is the Ottoman Empire. So we should be able to wipe every one else out right
That figures. Cracker used to ensure there was only one scientific civ to level the playing field for PtW and Civ3 vanilla. He even changed civ traits to ensure this in a couple of games.
So much for my talking without checking things first Of course, my prior post was clearly a general comment...
@Mistfit, I would still advocate against the Mongol approach to research and diplomacy, though...
@Mistfit, I would still advocate against the Mongol approach to research and diplomacy, though...
Mistfit
Deity
I'm just throwing out ideas. I have never played on Deity before so I doubt that we could play the Mongol style anyway. I'll be very interested in seeing how many units the opponents can churn out, and how many you guys think is enough to take in on our side. The decision can wait IMHO until after the Keltoi offensive.
DJMGator13
Still breathing
Hey guys, I'm without internet connection after the storm. I had it for a little while Monday and then it went out. Don't know how long it will be off. Other than that I doing OK. I'm hoping it comes back soon. I'm posting this from a friends house.
Tomoyo
Fate
The Ottos could also research something that was out the way of our beelines (like if we beeline for Motorized Transportation and leave Flight for them to research), so they could maybe help, if we gifted them the useless optional techs that they would otherwise research.
Thanks for the update, Gator. Hopefully everything will be fine soon 
Time for a roster update:
Tomoyo - UP
Karasu - next in line
Nikof - wandering around the world
AlanH
Gator - temporarily disconnected
Mistfit
I'll be back later for some strategizing.
Time for a roster update:
Tomoyo - UP
Karasu - next in line
Nikof - wandering around the world
AlanH
Gator - temporarily disconnected
Mistfit
I'll be back later for some strategizing.
Mistfit
Deity
IMHO I think the plan should go Keltoi and then evaluate where we are at. I also think it is going to take the next couple of turnsets to set-up for the Keltoi offensive.
DJMGator13
Still breathing
It looks like my internet connection is back again. [dance] Hopefully it will stay that way. 
Leave me in the lineup after AlanH, that will give me a chance to catch up.
Leave me in the lineup after AlanH, that will give me a chance to catch up.
Tomoyo
Fate
Got it and playing right now.
Tomoyo
Fate
Preflight: MM for 10 extra gpt, no builds slowed except the galley at Seville by two turns.
530BC:
Santiago: Horse --> Horse
510BC:
490BC:
El Karasu: Rax --> Horse
Aldon be Ribonna: Horse --> Horse
Tomoyoton: Hose --> Horse
470BC:
Toledo: Horse --> Market
Cuidad de la Luna: Horse --> Horse
Pampalona: Galley --> Galley
450BC:
Madrid: Market --> Rax
Seville: Galley --> Galley
Suicide galley sinks
430BC:
Vitoria: Temple --> Worker
Santiago: Horse --> Horse
410BC:
Zaragova: Rax --> Worker
Galley doesn't sink
Keltoi have monopoly on Feudalism
390BC:
Mistfitzia: Rax --> Horse
Feudalism from Kelts for Monotheism, WM, and 1280 gold
Monarchy from India for Feudalism
Meet America.
Contact with Iros, Japs, and Monty for Monarchy.
WM and 890 gold from Monty for Monarchy and Monotheism
WM and 20 gold from Iros for Monarchy
370BC:
Madrid: Rax --> Horse
Valencia: Rax --> Horse
Tomoyoton: Horse --> Horse
Jaen: Worker --> Worker
350BC:
Seville: Galley (oops) --> Temple
FP due next turn in Barcelona.
EDIT: And there's the save.
530BC:
Santiago: Horse --> Horse
510BC:
490BC:
El Karasu: Rax --> Horse
Aldon be Ribonna: Horse --> Horse
Tomoyoton: Hose --> Horse
470BC:
Toledo: Horse --> Market
Cuidad de la Luna: Horse --> Horse
Pampalona: Galley --> Galley
450BC:
Madrid: Market --> Rax
Seville: Galley --> Galley
Suicide galley sinks
430BC:
Vitoria: Temple --> Worker
Santiago: Horse --> Horse
410BC:
Zaragova: Rax --> Worker
Galley doesn't sink
Keltoi have monopoly on Feudalism
390BC:
Mistfitzia: Rax --> Horse
Feudalism from Kelts for Monotheism, WM, and 1280 gold
Monarchy from India for Feudalism
Meet America.
Contact with Iros, Japs, and Monty for Monarchy.
WM and 890 gold from Monty for Monarchy and Monotheism
WM and 20 gold from Iros for Monarchy
370BC:
Madrid: Rax --> Horse
Valencia: Rax --> Horse
Tomoyoton: Horse --> Horse
Jaen: Worker --> Worker
350BC:
Seville: Galley (oops) --> Temple
FP due next turn in Barcelona.
EDIT: And there's the save.
Tomoyo
Fate
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nikof
Warlord
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What a pretty map! Nice job, Tomoyo. I love my Casa, being next to mountains & ocean makes me feel right at home.
Glad you're okay, Gator.
Cheerio,
nikof
(in Impington, realizing that Internet cafes make a more reliable connection than one computer in a house full of teenagers...)
Glad you're okay, Gator.
Cheerio,
nikof
(in Impington, realizing that Internet cafes make a more reliable connection than one computer in a house full of teenagers...)
Mistfit
Deity
Good to hear from you nikof!
Great turns Tomoyo - Is that India in the purple? They seem to be the powerhouse on that contintent
Great turns Tomoyo - Is that India in the purple? They seem to be the powerhouse on that contintent
Tomoyo
Fate
Actually the purple is Iroquois. India is on our continent, with silver/gray.
