Methyl Orange
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You forgot about Julius Caesar who murdered almost entire Helvetian people!! (400 000)
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You forgot about Julius Caesar who murdered almost entire Helvetian people!! (400 000)
Wolfshanze
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Methyl Orange
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Yes. Only Gandhi deserves to be in game.
Refar
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Yea. And delete all units, with the exception of explorers and workers, while we are at it
Wolfshanze
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I made explorers capable of attacking in my mod... will need to delete them too. Scouts are okay though... I don't think great people can harm anyone either.
Couch Tomato
First Tomato Emperor
Lol, poor Igor. I think he should get the idea by now.
A great leader is only defined by how he led. Hitler was a great leader -- charismatic and able to rejuvenate the German economic machine. His ability to lead a nation is nothing less than admirable. However, he was a horrible person, a disgrace to human kind, and someone who should have never existed.
There's the distinction.
A great leader is only defined by how he led. Hitler was a great leader -- charismatic and able to rejuvenate the German economic machine. His ability to lead a nation is nothing less than admirable. However, he was a horrible person, a disgrace to human kind, and someone who should have never existed.
There's the distinction.
The Capo
godless Heathen
And you could do it too!!!! If you download my mod (see my sig) it has Israel as a playable civilization, as well as Ben-Gurion and Hitler. Yay!
Speaking of Gustavus Adolphus (or whatever you want to call him) I am "working" on him, but I'm doing a horrible job so far, I was going to use fontenac as a base, but I think Wolfshanze's idea of using his torso and VDD's head is a better idea. But my skills are EXTREMELY limited, and I am just now learning so it may take a while. I'd suggest someone else work on it in the meantime, because mine will probably suck ass anyway.
younflancy
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Hey, the likeness is pretty good, though.
Also, I can has Zhu Di?
I am so eagered to see one of the leaders to be present.
The one in the picture, or the one in your signature.
Ekmek
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I was thinking Stalin might be a good base for Nasser.
As for pericles I think Aranthor made a lot of beardless ones. ou can remove his beard in nifskope (but requires skinning)
Except for the skeleton and body not being synchronized this might be an "easy" one. By that just do the basics like add the facial hair and body and do the skinning work. release it and as you practice on other heads come back to it and improve it.
What in blender is slowing you down? Any questions you have I can help, I check in just about daily.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=267233&page=3
THAT GOES FOR EVERYONE ELSE TOO!
First of all, lets forget the fact I'm Jewish (I forget it a lot of times myself)... I think Hitler doesn't deserve to be in the game (maybe only in WWII scenarios) not because he killed a lot of people, but because of what he did to his country. You've mentioned Stalin: he killed a lot of people, he was crazy and paranoid, BUT he built the USSR (killing a lot of people in the process) and made it a superpower. Hitler, on the other hand, built Germany in the thirties only to destroy it (and other countries too) in the fourties. The difference between Hitler and Stalin is that Stalin is considered by the Russians a great leader despite all the bad things he did; Hitler is hated by the Germans. The question is, if I was German would I want to see Hitler lead my country? I've seen already some answers to this question on other forums where people from Germany said "No way!". So the question is not whether the person was "good" or "bad", but what did he leave behind for his people. Stalin left a superpower, Genghis left an empire, Isabella left a country that conquered vast territories in the New World. What did Hitler leave behind him? Destruction? A divided Germany? It erases everything he did in the thirties (and, yes he did a lot, I agree). This is why I don't object to Nasser being in the game although he brings negative emotions, he made Egypt a power in the Arab world.
Now, after we closed that subject lets move to my suggestions for Nasser. Maybe we could shave Hannibal and give him de Gaulle's moustache? How about that? Ekmek, maybe your Akbar is a good base for him as well? Also I think the Pierre Trudeau LH is a great base for Sadat.
Methyl Orange
Warlord
But I think Hitler should be in game as leader of SUPER evil Nazi Empire.
Yes, in a WWII MOD, of course, as the leader of the Nazis, I have no problem whatsoever with that! I would never put Hitler as the leader of Germany out of respect to the GERMAN people.
JustATourist
Lost in Translation
You know, germans are the best bad guys. 
The Capo
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About all of this Hitler stuff, I'll say what I said in another thread about an argument in a Kosovoa Module thread; Who cares?
If you don't like Hitler you don't have to use Hitler. If someone else wants to use/waste their time making a Hitler leaderhead that is up to them and is everyone else's decision to use that leaderhead. This is only a videogame after all, I mean there's a Pol Pot leaderhead out there for . .. .. .. .'s sake!
So this thread is for requesting leaderheads, and I think it should stay like that because arguments that are never going to solve anything are never going to help.
Sorry.
About Nasser: I think Gilgamesh would actually be a better base, look at Nasser's face/nose and jawline and look at Gilgamesh without a beard! You just have to make Gil a little chubbier, maybe a bit darker and give him different hair and you've got a pretty good Nasser. IMO.
@Ekmek: I've been really busy too, so that's part of it, and I was working on a mod, which was my first so even though it isn't that complex a mod it was complicated for me. But I have time now, and I am going to dive right into Gustavus Adolphus. Basically what is happening is I can't figure out how to do certain things (remove a torso, attach a new torso, remove a hat, add a new hat) and I get frustrated when I try certain things and they screw up so I quit. But this is MOSTLY due to lack of time, and I realize I should probably give myself a couple of hours at a time to work on it rather than, say, fifteen to twenty minutes. But now I'll have more time.
If you don't like Hitler you don't have to use Hitler. If someone else wants to use/waste their time making a Hitler leaderhead that is up to them and is everyone else's decision to use that leaderhead. This is only a videogame after all, I mean there's a Pol Pot leaderhead out there for . .. .. .. .'s sake!
So this thread is for requesting leaderheads, and I think it should stay like that because arguments that are never going to solve anything are never going to help.
Sorry.
About Nasser: I think Gilgamesh would actually be a better base, look at Nasser's face/nose and jawline and look at Gilgamesh without a beard! You just have to make Gil a little chubbier, maybe a bit darker and give him different hair and you've got a pretty good Nasser. IMO.
@Ekmek: I've been really busy too, so that's part of it, and I was working on a mod, which was my first so even though it isn't that complex a mod it was complicated for me. But I have time now, and I am going to dive right into Gustavus Adolphus. Basically what is happening is I can't figure out how to do certain things (remove a torso, attach a new torso, remove a hat, add a new hat) and I get frustrated when I try certain things and they screw up so I quit. But this is MOSTLY due to lack of time, and I realize I should probably give myself a couple of hours at a time to work on it rather than, say, fifteen to twenty minutes. But now I'll have more time.
You know, germans are the best bad guys.
I thought Russians were...
That's true. Especially that my comment about Hitler was misunderstood.
Gilgamesh without a beard? What comes to mind is the Michael Collins LH someone created (I'm sorry, I just don't remember who)... I don't know how you can make Nasser out of that. But if you can make his face wider or something maybe it'll look like Nasser. I still think de Gaulle's moustache is a must! Who's haircut can you use?
The Capo
godless Heathen
Yeah, but that LH doesn't look a thing like Micky, and that wasn't based of Gilgamesh as much as it was based off of that space-scenario that came with BtS. If you want to see a real Gilgamesh without a beard check out Ekmek's Smoke Jaguar or MethylOrange's Akhenaten LH, which I think look as close to Nasser as you are going to get from a base model. I wouldnt' go with Stalin at all on this one. He doesn't really look like Nasser that much.
Methyl Orange
Warlord
But what if the Nazi won the WW2? We (all non-Germans, but mostly Slavs, Jews and Roma peoples) would suffer from tyranny, but Germany would be a superpower. And, I think, CIV is a game of altering history.
And, I didn't write this because I favour Hitler as I obviously can't favour him as a Slovene.
Now, back to topic: Do you think it is too radical (for Muslims) if I make Muhammad leaderhead?
MadmanOfALeader
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Yes, it is. Don't make prophet Whatshisname, please.
The Capo
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I don't think this is really back on topic, I thought we were talking about a Nasser-base.
But I know its totally against Muslim law to depict him, and I feel that if done in a "frivilous" way (and I can assure you they would consider Civ IV frivilous) it would be even worse. There are other ways around this though obviously, if you depict him with a covered face I THINK that is allowed (or at least acceptable to some muslims) or if you simply make an image of his name written out in farsi (?) or whatever language (Arabic) that is acceptable too, and there are ways to make this look "cool" for the purposes of civilization as well. But we have Abu Bakr out there already, so that era I believe is covered and while Mohammad is a great leader (certainly) I don't think its necessary to really try to offend people, especially if you have that inclination.
That said, I don't really believe in religion anyway, so I could care less and like I said before if you want to make a Mohammed LH that is your prerogative and they don't have to use it if they don't want to. So while I'd advise against it, I am not AGAINST it, so to speak.
The Capo
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Although you might what to check with the "powers that be," they may not want you to put one up after all. So I'd check with whoever runs CivFanatics first actually.
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