Leftists

[Bill3000]

I'm also going to guess what Cutlass thinks too. I hope i win the prize

Cutlass believes Conservatives believe in no government intervention in the economy. Without intervention to protect workers it leads to poverty and therefore revolution and Communism. Whilst progressives want some form of intervention to secure workers rights and therefore prevent communism...

Bismarck proves otherwise yadda yadda

 

[Kerozine]

Not going to read the whole thread... will just respond to the OP.

You have clearly defined "liberal" vs. "conservative" based on the U.S. political spectrum's definition of liberal and conservative issues. The two political parties have naturally balanced out close to 50/50 in vote share, as one will move further left/right to capture share from the other if there is an imbalance. The issues will be redefined as liberal or conservative based on where the new balance is found in your country. The new balance will not be defined by issues already deemed liberal/conservative by any international standard.

The U.S isn't balanced left/right by any international spectrum of developed countries. It is balanced far-right/slightly-right. The Democratic Party occupies much of the same territory as the Conservative Party in Canada. There simply isn't a centre-left party in the U.S. Also, on economic issues, the centre-left NDP in Canda would be middle of the road in most of Europe.

Makes you wonder why there is so much scare-mongering about "socialism" when most European countries successfully govern at the extreme economic left of Canada's major political parties.

By international standards, I am a centrist.

On what basis are you equating the CPC with the Democratic Party in the US?

 

[Cutlass]

I'm also going to guess what Cutlass thinks too. I hope i win the prize

Cutlass believes Conservatives believe in no government intervention in the economy. Without intervention to protect workers it leads to poverty and therefore revolution and Communism. Whilst progressives want some form of intervention to secure workers rights and therefore prevent communism...

You don't know my positions well enough to guess what I beleive.

 

[Yared]

What do ya believe then?

 

[Quackers]

You don't know my positions well enough to guess what I beleive.

Link to video.

 

[choxorn]

The NHS destroys lives. I read an article recently, that told of someone who died because of something stuck inside of her that could have been easily taken out, in ENGLAND! BECAUSE OF THE NHS!

Stuff like this happens everywhere. Some doctors just suck, whether the Health Care System is government run or not.

 

[civ_king]

The NHS destroys lives. I read an article recently, that told of someone who died because of something stuck inside of her that could have been easily taken out, in ENGLAND! BECAUSE OF THE NHS!

Besides, most Americans don't even want it, meaning in the United States its a government-corrupt program by definition.

As long as England isn't invading Israel, supporting terrorism, or supporting dictatorship (Which they are not) I don't care what you want to do in England. It will fail, as it will in the US.

To Owen, yes, I read your answer, and I must admit it was the most satisfactory one given IMO.

You are absolutely right, Stephen Hawking would be dead if he lived in Britain...

 

[GhostWriter16]

Stuff like this happens everywhere. Some doctors just suck, whenever the Health Care System is government run

fixed that for you

 

[Traitorfish]

Socialism is wonderful, and I love Lenin.

I think I'm witty too.

 

[Behind The Mask]

fixed that for you

So you lack a valid point so you edit quotes to bend reality to your own whim so that you do not have to face critique regardless of whether or not it is legimate and even if the quote itself attacked neither NHS or private run healthcare you feel it needs 'fixing' simply because it didn't attack NHS?

Seems to be a wee bit petty eh? Course, if you don't agree with any of what I just said you'll just edit it as well to continue blending in with your own apparent dementia.

And now for something completly different!

 

[Ajidica]

We should probably make a poll thread asking people in the UK if they believe the NHS is more effective/better overall than the mish-mash we have in America.
And Domination, if NHS was so bad and socialistic, why didn't Britians home-grown Reagan, Thatcher completly remove it? She did try to gut it though..... Its lasted over 60 years so it can't be that bad.

 

[choxorn]

fixed that for you

Ooh, quote editing! Here, I can do that, too:

I am the brain of Karl Marx, stuck in the body of a carrot being eaten by a giant purple bunny.

 

[Traitorfish]

And Domination, if NHS was so bad and socialistic, why didn't Britians home-grown Reagan, Thatcher completly remove it? She did try to gut it though..... Its lasted over 60 years so it can't be that bad.

"Hell-spawned", Ajidica, not "home-grown". I know Britain can get a bit grotty at times, but not even the we could produce that creature without some sort of infernal intervention.

 

[Skwink]

Without getting myself into a ton of trouble, I'm just going to say your posts are often partisan and make no sense. You can say absolute capitalism isn't practical, but you can't say you believe in absolute capitalism.

(Not implying that he can't call himself a capitalist, just saying, capitalism in its PUREST FORM is non government intervention, period. Whether this works is what can be debated.)

Also, I'll still be here in five years and conservative, thanks.

Well thats were we agree, I will also be here in 5 years, and also still conservative.

 

[GhostWriter16]

Well thats were we agree, I will also be here in 5 years, and also still conservative.

Just curious, no offense, and I understand disagreement on some things, but if you consider Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck idiots, what kind of conservative are you?

Ooh, quote editing! Here, I can make up things you never said,

Fun

 

[Behind The Mask]

Just curious, no offense, and I understand disagreement on some things, but if you consider Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck idiots, what kind of conservative are you?



Fun

The pot calling the kettle black much?

This only seems to cement the point I was making, no?

Now, if we're all really of a mature age could we try to at least try and keep some sense of reason and logic about us in this lil' debate, eh?

 

[otago]

Are there any fiscal conservatives in the USA ?
Just look at your military and the amount of utter waste they generate from tax payer dollars (borrowed from the Chinese?) yet one does not hear a peep from so called conservatives about that waste, why not ?
Look at a lot of your so called conservative small states, they believe larger liberal states owe them liberal taxpayers money.
Look at your so called farm subsidies, I do not hear any ranting from so called conservatives for them to be dropped.
Why am I a liberal, well the other option is to be a hypocrite.

 

[GhostWriter16]

Are there any fiscal conservatives in the USA ?
Just look at your military and the amount of utter waste they generate from tax payer dollars (borrowed from the Chinese?) yet one does not hear a peep from so called conservatives about that waste, why not ?
Look at a lot of your so called conservative small states, they believe larger liberal states owe them liberal taxpayers money.
Look at your so called farm subsidies, I do not hear any ranting from so called conservatives for them to be dropped.
Why am I a liberal, well the other option is to be a hypocrite.

I am against subsidies.

 

[Skwink]

Just curious, no offense, and I understand disagreement on some things, but if you consider Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck idiots, what kind of conservative are you?


None taken. I only think Glen is an Idiot, Mrs. Palin is just funny! I agree with many other Conservatives. Ever heard of Mike Smerconish? Mike Gallagher? I listen to them every night. I agree with most of what they say.

Ever listen to Mike Savage? He is great entertainment when somebody ticks him off!

 

[GhostWriter16]

Just curious, no offense, and I understand disagreement on some things, but if you consider Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck idiots, what kind of conservative are you?


None taken. I only think Glen is an Idiot, Mrs. Palin is just funny! I agree with many other Conservatives. Ever heard of Mike Smerconish? Mike Gallagher? I listen to them every night. I agree with most of what they say.

Ever listen to Mike Savage? He is great entertainment when somebody ticks him off!

Mike Smerconish voted Obama. Therefore I don't support him.