Let's Read the Bible Once
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timtofly
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I once had a Brooke say that to me.
Ziggy Stardust
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No, you see they went straight to heaven. God doesn't have this irritable restriction of having to be judicious in who it kills. It's like a little brat who's his own father.
I suggest you talk to an Evangelical about that. They appear to be under the assumption that sin is literally death, even for those too young to sin.
classical_hero
In whom I trust
Every human that has lived on this planet is a descendant of Adam. As a result we all die.
If we all die, what is so great about Jesus' death?
So who were the people in the Land of Nod that needed to be warned not to kill Cain? Presumably his parents didn't need that warning.
Borachio
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This is a good question.
The only answer I can think of is that death is being used in two senses:
1. A physical death we all die. (And presumably we're transformed afterwards, if we're Christian enough...or something.)
2. A death meaning an ultimate destruction of the self.
Still, I dunno. It's only a guess.
Everything born dies. Are the monkeys descendants of Adam as well?
Ziggy Stardust
Absolutely Sane
A story mechanism.
Interesting that the only answer you got was a pre-programmed statement isn't it? Can't even go as far as considering the question. That would bring doubt. And doubt, as we know, kills faith.
classical_hero
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His death paid the final penalty so that those who trust in him do not die a second death.
1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
@MS, Adam brought death upon the whole planet and whole creation is suffering under the curse of sin because of us. Romans 8:19-22
Ziggy Stardust
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More pre-programmed statements. Mantras to avoid consideration.
How was Jesus' death a penalty for Jesus if he was a descendant of Adam and all descendants of Adam die anyway? Repeating the inconsistent verses of Paul is not helping me out here.
This is certainly true after The Flood killed everyone but Noah and his family since Noah was a directly-named descendent of Adam.
People will always argue about the period between Adam and Eve and The Flood since so little appears to have been written about it.
That is an interesting thought.
If people really did live 100's of years and could have kids for 90% of that time, there is no reason why Cain couldn't have killed Abel after say 300 years in a world with 100,000 people in it. (Many of whom would be strangers to their Great-Great-Great-etc...-Uncle Cain through distance and time)
I assume that whatever made people live so long also compensated for genetic problems typically caused by incest.
I'm glad you asked
Jesus came back to life after 3 days, so obviously it didn't stick.
Although as far as I know the only witnesses were his
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resurrection_appearances_of_Jesus
Then you start getting into Jesus dying for every persons' sins.
Even did it willingly.
And that we can remove the Original Sin that we are born with through 1 Baptism in which we symbolically share in Jesus' death and rebirth.
From the Nicene Creed:
Also, since Jesus came back from the dead, then that gives hope to the rest of us.
I think I got that right.
Lillefix
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I'm glad you asked
Jesus came back to life after 3 days, so obviously it didn't stick.
That makes it even less of a sacrifice. Just a minor inconveniance for him. If he burned in hell forever, now that would have been a sacrifice.
You need to watch Passion of the Christ then on Netflix Instant.
Jesus died a brutal, bloody, agonizing death.
Even the Pope thought it was highly accurate.
I saw it with some friends.
It was so intense, the 30 minute car ride back, no one said a word.
Even today I can't watch it again. It is too much.
