LK101, Diety, World Map, Civ=TBD

[LKendter]

I am finishing off turn 6 worker actions, then I will pass it on to you
(all the forest chopping and such is what takes long time )

Well I thought it was waiting over a minute for every city capture, raze or abandon.


While are those workers are tedious, a few more temples every turn does bring domination closer.

 

[Gyathaar]

Well I thought it was waiting over a minute for every city capture, raze or abandon.

yeah, that takes quite some time too

While are those workers are tedious, a few more temples every turn does bring domination closer.

A few? All those tundra towns with enough forests has temples.. and some has gotten harbors/tanks/artilleries chopped after that..

 

[Gyathaar]

1700AD, turn 5:

Found Tucuman 2

Upgrade the 2 cannons I captured last turn
argh,, misclick a settler into unroaded tundra in alaska.. oh well. I can do without it a turn or two

redline 2 inf in Kukiya
kill with hurt cav army and 5/5 tank.. capture the town

sink 2 aztec frigates escoriting a transport

redline 3 inf and a guerilla in Nippur
kill with hurt tank army and 3 5/5 tanks
raze Nippur for 1 artillery and 5 slaves

Ouch.. I realize I totally messed that up.. I didnt expect the babylonian cities to have that expanded borders... it may take 2 turns to teach the most remote city now when i could have taken it this turn had i captured Nippur

Unless I abandon Tucuman 2 to get a city deeper that way.. that way I can get Iziba this turn by using armies with no artillery support

But first I bombard Uruk
redline 3 inf and 1 guerilla
kill with 4 elite tanks.. I have abolutely horrible leader luck this round..
raze Urku for 2 gold and 5 slaves

Interesting.. what I thought was borders from Iziba and Zariqum turned out to be borders from Uruk.. that makes expanding a bit easier..

Found la Plata 2

3 tank armies kill 3 inf in Sippar and capture it

redline 3 inf in Zariqum
kill first 2 with 2 elite tanks
loose two elite gauchos
kill last defender with 4/4 tank that promote to 3/5
raze Zariqum for 2 gold and 4 slaves

Found Mar del Plata 2

capture babylon worker

kill a inf in iziba with tank army
then loose a 18 hp cav army to a 4/4 infantery (in a size 4 town)
tank army kills the 1 hp inf and capture Izibia

redline 2 guerilla in New Uruk
kill them and capture the town with 2 4/4 tanks

redline inf and guerilla in New Timbuktu
kill them and capture the town with 2 4/4 tanks

babylon now has a town in Sweden, one on Cypros, a couple tundra towns by greenland and rest island cities in the Pacific

at 37.5% land, 43% pop

New day.. time to decide who to go for next..
zulus would be an easy target.. India or mongols would be better if I can make them declare and break the deals.
India is the top AI in techs, land and pop

lets see,, they have 17% pop.. we have 43%.. that means we have 43/(100-17) = 51.8 % of the non indian pop in the world..
War with india will insure that absolutely noone can launch a space ship no matter what.

can I make india declare? They have dropped to polite from furious with is now.. and we still have RoP in place.

downside to attacking zulus is that they only recently got rails.. so large parts of their land is still not railed.. it will be quickerto kill them later.
downside to a war with india is that we cant see if they research new techs the next few turns.. or actually.. we can see if time to research drops noticably..

100% sci gives 2155beaker per turn..
computers will take 12 turns
space flight takes 13
ecology will take 12 turns
those are the techs india can research (plus fission but we wont steal that)

if india starts SETI that also means they have computers.. since they dont have oil we wont see MI thou

Move a stack of artillery and tanks to outside 'No Oil' so they can attack Sardis if india will declare

since stealing miltary plans is cheaper than stealing techs.. I attempt an immediate steal plans first.. and it succeeds..

Hyderabad is defended by 4 ToWs, Karachi, samaria, persepolis and banglore has 3 Tow, Dehli, Rheims and Punjab has 2 ToWs.. the rest of the continental cities has 0 or 1 ToW defenders.. rest infantery and mobile SAM

all 3 bombers are located in Karachi.. 3 of their 4 tanks are on southeast asia islands

I reposition some tanks depending on what I see
I cancel the ROP and demand that india gives me ironclads a couple times.. gandhi is good and furious now

since the only tech we have to gain is ironclads, I use the embassy to do immediate steal so I have higher chance of getting caught
first immediate steal.. get ironclads
2nd steal.. ghandi declare.. supposedly he was not pleased..

redline 3 inf in Sardis

3 4/4 tanks kill the inf and raze Sardis for 178gold and 3 slaves

Oops.. I forgot to but all of indias ~12k lump sum gold for gpt before starting war.. oh well.. too late now.. and they wont have anything to use the gold on anyway

redline 3 inf, 1 tow and 1 marine in Bengal
loose a tank and the tow promotes.. redline it again
5 vet tanks kills the defenders and raze Bengal for 240gold, 2 artilleries and 11 slaves

redline 2 ToW in Rheims
kill them with tank army and tank.. capture size 1 Rheims with a treb and 120 gold.. the citizen is babylonian for some reason..
upgrade the treb

redline guerilla and inf in New Chittagong
cav army kills both and autoraze for 121gold

that was the last outlying indian town.. now we have 2 short defined borders with them.
no.. there is still Gisa.. but it is size 1 and just 1 defender.. so it can wait till next turn

kill a redlined marine next to one of our cities

redline and kill 2 indian infantery
redline 2 rifles guarding an artillery.. kill with 5/5 inf and gaucho

hurt tanks capture 7 slaves before they go home to heal

kill an indian cav with a conscript toW

I realize that funnilly enough.. this is first time we are at war with india.. so we are getting war happiness from the declaration..

India has a total of 3 fast units on the mainland.. (2 cavs and 1 tank). so I dont expect much counterattack IBT.. but I dont want them to ally mongola vs us, so i ally mongolia vs india
mongols want dyes for the alliance.. sure

kill 2 inf in Iztapan (greenland) and autoraze it for 59 gold
kill an aztec guerilla

IBT:
kill 5 indian units and loose 2 tows

Australia and mongols sign peace

I see mongols kill a lot of indian units

1705AD, turn 6:
38.0% land, 45% pop
no change in turns left on different techs, no india has no finished any research yet

kill tow, flak and rifle in New Jaipur with tank army and 2 gauchos
autoraze for 121gold and 2 workers

do the w routine

redline tow, rifle and flak in New Bengal
kill with 3 tanks and autoraze for 122gold and 3 slaves

found Far Eastern Siberia in its place and we can finally do the back and forth in 1 turn with transports

redline and sink astec transport

redline 2 tow and 2 inf in persepolis
kill with 4 tanks.. persepolis is still not culturally expanded.. so i gamble on that it still has several persian citizens.. and capture it for 185gold
hmm.. just 1 persian citizen.. so I will abandon persepolis instead.. after binging in a new settler to settle deeper in

abandon Persepolis after selling barracks

found bahia Blanca 2

redline 2 tow and 3 inf in Sidon
on the 3rd elite tank I finally gain my first leader this round

leader makes an army ofcourse
then the RNG makes it up as I loose a 5/5 tank to redlined inf
2 more elite tanks raze Sidon for 249gold and 6 slaves

found Salta 2

redline 1 tow and 2 inf in New Karachi
kill with 3 elite tanks
capture New Karachi for 186 gold

hmm.. I am already in the indian core.. I check what indian cities has wonders worth keeping
Calcutta has JS Bachs.. rest is just tourism mostly

sell the baracks in New Karachi
bring in a settler
abandon New Karachi
found San Juan 2

redline 2 tow and 5 inf in Dehli (indian capital)
tank army kills the 2 tows
loose a tank and kill the 5 inf with 6 vet tanks
raze dehli for 250gold, 2 artillery and 14slaves

tank army kills tow and inf in Gordium
2nd tank army kills guerilla and rifle and capture the town for 187gold

redline 2 tow and 5 inf in Madras
tank army kills the 2 tow
4 tanks kill the 5 inf and raze Madrasalong with a lot of wonders for 252gold and 11 slaves

redline 2 tow and 2 inf in Arbela
tank army kills the tows
2 tanks kill the inf and raze Arbela for 189gold and 3 slaves

Found Jujuy 2

tank army kills sam and marine in Argos
hurt tank army kills redlined Tow.. and capture the town for 126 gold

Tank Army kills tow and inf in Eulbar and capture the town for 128gold (size 3 with no expanded borders)

tank army kills 2 infantery in Eridu
hurt tank army kills guerilla and raze the town foe 195gold and 5 slaves

tank army kills 2 inf in Antioch
hurt tank army kills last inf and raze Antioch for 196gold, 1 artillery and 5 slaves

found Acellaneda 2

redline and kill an exposed tow.. but loose a 3/4 tank doing ot

Most of the Indian Offensive force is plaved where they can only attack one town IBT.. so it is easy to guard (they have no fast units left on the mainland)

find 2 unmoved artillery.. redline ToW in Gisa
kill the tow and autoraze Gisa for 132gold with a cav army

Found parana 2

mumble.. I misclick one of the transports on the return trip

kill inf, rifle and Guerilla in Tamuin (greenland)
capture it for 67 gold

start the worker actions

I do my best at mining all times i know is chopped already
Use available defenseive units to cover all exposed attack places.. all the indian fast units are on islands, so we should be safe from loosing many units the way I placed them

But you probable want to send out some combat settlers, and you need an inf or two for each of those...

at 39.1% land and 47% pop
mongols is number 2 in both land and pop now.. (poor india.. I almost pity them)

23.1 % of the world is unsettled

The previous babylonian and indian lands:

The save

 

[LKendter]

then loose a 18 hp cav army to a 4/4 infantry (in a size 4 town)

It bites, but isn't totally a shock. I have lost more then one cavalry army this way.

23.1 % of the world is unsettled

It sounds like our biggest domination delay may be border expansions.


Signed up:
LKendter
Gyathaar
Microbe (currently playing)
M60A3TTS (on deck)
Romeothemonk
Greebley

Remember 5 to 10 turns per round - STRICT 24 hours got it, total 48 hours to at complete. Once the game starts dragging 48 hours to at least report a status update.

 

[Gyathaar]

To make it a bit easier for lurkers to see how the progress is going.. these are the world maps the last 100 years:

1600AD:

1650AD:

1700AD:

1705AD:

 

[microbe]

Got it .

 

[LKendter]

I took a look at the game. An 8% jump in territory is unreal for a world map game. In addition, you have setup Microbe to see even more border expansions thanks to additional temples that came on-line.


It is working well, but it does seem strange to see more progress against India from the west with our reinforcements coming from the east. Outside of a couple of decent stacks in the Middle East, it already looks like India is mostly broken.


I am curious why so many ships are fortified in ports. Those were the same ships I wanted to get to Asia so that we could invade Japan and possible take out the last of the Aztecs to eliminate the flip risk once and for all.


If we start hurting for defensive infantry, we could pull the guards out of the Tundra waste in North America. To be honest the loss of one of those cities wouldn't hurt all that much.


I suspect my next round will be the last time I play this game.

 

[Gyathaar]

I am curious why so many ships are fortified in ports. Those were the same ships I wanted to get to Asia so that we could invade Japan and possible take out the last of the Aztecs to eliminate the flip risk once and for all.

I suspect you mean the ones up by greenland?
I was keeping some around there incases i needed to ship units to or from greenland in emergency

If you mean the ones at bering strait.. I was filling every available ship there and shipping across units and workers every turn so could not afford to bring any of those further south.

(and personally I didnt see the need to divert military units out on those islands when we have lots of easier lands to conquer on the mainland)

 

[Gyathaar]

I forgot to mention I was using one of the cities up in Siberia to heal armies (and other units) in.

The armies in there with full movement left would be healed at the start of next turn.

 

[microbe]

preturn: lots of empty towns, while quite some units are fortified in the open. It just doesn't make sense.

I don't understand why lux is set to 30%??? Reset to 0.

Found a few towns.

IBT Zulu and China MA vs Mongols. Aztecs and India MA vs Mongols and Iros.

(1)1710AD: lose one elite tank but kill TOW and infantry and capture Tatung and get a leader.

Kill 6 units and capture Bangalore with ToE and 3 artillery. It has Copernicus too. I abandon and settle a new town to get to more Indian cities this turn.

Capture Calcutta with JS Bach. Oops, I should have avoided it or bombarded it to size 1, now I have to keep it. I expect it to flip. Rename it to JS Bach.

Capture Indus and abandon. Capture Tyre, Samaria. Raze Bactra.

On the northern island: autoraze Larsa. Lose full health knight army to guerilla. It's no use anyway.

We are 40%.

IBT China wants peace. Elephantine and New Canton flip.

(2)1715AD: Raze New Canton.

Raze New Kolhapur(India) on the island at our transport line.

Autoraze Elephantine.

Capture New Atzcapotalco(Aztec).

Abandon Indus and found a replacement.

Capture Chittagong, Jaipur, Ganges. Abandon and settle. Raze Ningpo, Pune.

Lose one cav army and raze Bombay. We get another 15 slaves to manage.

Kill the stacks of Indian units inside our territory.

Just before the interturn I tried to save and the game hang. I had to replay part of the turns.

 

[Gyathaar]

preturn: lots of empty towns, while quite some units are fortified in the open. It just doesn't make sense.

I don't understand why lux is set to 30%??? Reset to 0.

None of the empty towns could be reached by enemy units.. the units in open could

Lux was set to 30% to give WLTKD in every town.. this brought in 3-6 extra shields in most towns with factories and power plants

 

[Greebley]

Given that a tech like Computers takes 12 turns to research at 100% and the game isn't going to last that long, I think the 30% Lux makes more sense than gold we cannot use.

 

[microbe]

I'm at turn 4 and destroyed half of Zulu's core.

The game has hung 3 times on me when I tried to save.

 

[Gyathaar]

I'm at turn 4 and destroyed half of Zulu's core.

The game has hung 3 times on me when I tried to save.

Guess india is pretty much gone then..?

Never locked up on me... you running any kind of software that tries to read the save files as they are created? (like antivirus)

 

[microbe]

(3)1720AD: Capture Lahore. Raze Punjab. Capture Hyderabad. Raze Dacca. No more Indian cities in top 5 or on this continent.

Now I have two choices for next target: Mongols or Zulu. I decide to go for Zulu first, simply because we still have 16-turn MA left against Babylon. I set to 100% science to get Computers in 12 turns.

On the Aztec front, autoraze New Teotihuacan.

Declare on Zulu.
Autoraze Diata. Raze Taudene. Raze Ngome. Capture Athribis and Zunguin. Autoraze Taghaza.

Raze New Bapedi and get a leader. Capture lbabanago. We are short on defense so I have to evacuate some towns not adjacent to Zulu.

IBT OCC Russia and India MA vs us, Mongols and Zulu. The JS Bach city flips as expected.

(4)1725AD: bombard Calcutta down to size 2 and recapture it, and get a leader. We have too many armies so I disband a cav army to rush a transport so we could invade more islands next turn.

Autoraze Tzintzutzen.

Capture lsipedi, Swazi, Umtata, lsandhlwana, Tuegula, Zimbawe. Capturing cities seems to be much faster now. Raze Ufomoli, Amatikulu, Mpondo, Intombe, Ulundi, Bapedi.

Zulu core is almost completely gone.

I land some units to a Songhai island, only to find that I didn't declare. If we worry about RoP rep it would take two more turns to capture. Do we care?

 

[LKendter]

I land some units to a Songhai island, only to find that I didn't declare. If we worry about RoP rep it would take two more turns to capture. Do we care?

Are we dependent on the Siberian shuttle moving troops through Mongolian territory?

 

[romeothemonk]

In my mind, we have reached the 800 lb gorilla stage in this game. We can rather do as we please.
I would just go ahead and attack, but be careful to do no other RoP rapes. We will let the man give the finally word though.

 

[LKendter]

In my mind, we have reached the 800 lb gorilla stage in this game. We can rather do as we please.
I would just go ahead and attack, but be careful to do no other RoP rapes. We will let the man give the finally word though.

Well the final word depends on the answer to my question. My answer is the opposite of the answer to that question.

If we depend on the Mongol route = yes, then I say no.
If we depend on the Mongol route = no, then I say yes.

 

[Greebley]

I would keep our Rep intact. We gain little by taking out a Songhai city 2 turns earlier.

Note that when I last looked at the map, we could place a city that would connect siberia to the rest of our forces. I think we should build that city.

 

[microbe]

IBT Songhai kicks us out. Just delay one turn, OK.

(5)1730AD: Raze Ulobane. Capture Walatz, Sokoto, Kangaba, Sagu, Kombi, Kano. Autoraze lsandhlwana. Capture New San Luis, Timbuktu. Autoraze Umtata and Zulu is gone.

Autoraze New Gao (Aztec).

Declare on Songhai and land.

Note: We have several transports to invade on various fronts:
- to the west of Africa, Songhai
- Japan island (China)
- South Asia, India (transport in Rawson). It could land units to take out New Delhi and then turn to south take out more Indian and Babylon towns. Beaware of the Indian boats at New Delhi.
- North: There are several Australian towns, and one Babylon town.

Our armies are healing in several big ex-Zulu cities. All other troops/artillery are fortified around Mideast. There is also one empty army.

I fortified a lot of workers at our home land (around capital).

We are short of settlers. You could switch some core cities to them. If we could fill all the gaps we might be close to domination already.

Our next major target is Mongols, but we need more defense as the front is very long.

We are at 45% land.

SAVE