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Hmm, that'll be a very radical change to basic Civ. I look forward to seeing how it works out.
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Hmm, that'll be a very radical change to basic Civ. I look forward to seeing how it works out.
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It seems to work well - and now planting forests in grasland becomes much more important.
Spoiler :
Lurker:
Civinator, I see in the pedia for the Coastal Battery that it expires with Great War. That conflicts with what the Great War says. It does not list anything expiring. Explosives say Coastal Bat expires.
The other thing I found was that The Capitol could not be build, though nothing is listed as a requirement? No tainted shields as I tried in in all cities and some had no builds going. I checked
the biq and it does not show any requirements either.
Edit: Later in the game I was able to make the capitol. I got the popup to build it, after research of WW2 ships. That tech makes no mention of the capitol.
Civinator, I see in the pedia for the Coastal Battery that it expires with Great War. That conflicts with what the Great War says. It does not list anything expiring. Explosives say Coastal Bat expires.
The other thing I found was that The Capitol could not be build, though nothing is listed as a requirement? No tainted shields as I tried in in all cities and some had no builds going. I checked
the biq and it does not show any requirements either.
Edit: Later in the game I was able to make the capitol. I got the popup to build it, after research of WW2 ships. That tech makes no mention of the capitol.
Lurker:
The Venetian Galleass does not list an upgrade, but did upgrade to a torp boat.
The Venetian Galleass does not list an upgrade, but did upgrade to a torp boat.
Lurker:
Sorry to spam, but I wanted to have items stand out so civinator sees them.
Anyway the guard infantry that is auto built does not list that it can be upgraded. It can be to infantry.
Sorry to spam, but I wanted to have items stand out so civinator sees them.
Anyway the guard infantry that is auto built does not list that it can be upgraded. It can be to infantry.
Lurker:
Got a crash for a wonder splash for the AMX Factory missing. I guess I can copy some other splash and rename it. Has this been reported and an update been posted already?
Got a crash for a wonder splash for the AMX Factory missing. I guess I can copy some other splash and rename it. Has this been reported and an update been posted already?
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Thanks for those contributions. 
Were you playing the French when the AMX Factory caused a crash?
Were you playing the French when the AMX Factory caused a crash?
Update:
America is sending a lot of troops (foot and mounted) through our territory toward Indo-China with whom they are at war. This has some what slowed down our getting troops into place to attack the last 3 Inca cities.
The Inca suckered the Aztec into signing an MPP; so the Aztec declared war on us.
America is sending a lot of troops (foot and mounted) through our territory toward Indo-China with whom they are at war. This has some what slowed down our getting troops into place to attack the last 3 Inca cities.
The Inca suckered the Aztec into signing an MPP; so the Aztec declared war on us.
Question: I could trade Military Tradition to Greece for 99 gpt or, declare war and capture the 3 Greek cities on our side or the choke point giving us a nice clean shore line. One Greek City (Sparta) is defended by Hopilites. I do not know how the other 2 are defended. Any thoughts on what is best? I favor 
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I say smack the Greeks. Are only tech threats are all near us, so cash isn't as important. If any of them get to far, we can smack those civs.
In addition, Greece works on my goal of controlling all on our side of the choke point.
It is now about grabbing land.
IIRC there is at least one Aztec city on our side to deal with.
In addition, Greece works on my goal of controlling all on our side of the choke point.
It is now about grabbing land.
IIRC there is at least one Aztec city on our side to deal with.
Consider the Greeks smacked
There are 2 Aztec cities on the east coast in what was russian/viking territory. I am moving some troops to take care of them.
There are also several Aztec cities that are the south east coast of our side of the check point.
Thanks for those contributions.
Yes I was.
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I agree with clearing the Greeks away to consolidate our position.
The Aztecs, to clarify for the lurkers, are from our side of the chokepoint; their core is just far to the south.
The Aztecs, to clarify for the lurkers, are from our side of the chokepoint; their core is just far to the south.
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vmxa, thank you very much for your highly appreciated contributions.
They are all noted, so some of them (per example the missing splash for the French AMX-Factory) were still known. The civilopedia couldn´t keep pace with the changes in the biq and in the other files. That´s one of the main reasons why I want to do a non public betatest with the next version of CCM (others are to get feedback with the new features in that mod).
They are all noted, so some of them (per example the missing splash for the French AMX-Factory) were still known. The civilopedia couldn´t keep pace with the changes in the biq and in the other files. That´s one of the main reasons why I want to do a non public betatest with the next version of CCM (others are to get feedback with the new features in that mod).
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Ok, here is another one. I tried to attack a town with a partisan and it would not do it. It says in bold type that you do not have to declare war with a partisan?
Ok, here is another one. I tried to attack a town with a partisan and it would not do it. It says in bold type that you do not have to declare war with a partisan?
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Earlier in this thread Civinator replied to a question by saying that a slaver or mullah couldn't attack a city without a declaration of war if controlled by the player, but that they could if controlled by the AI. Presumably you've discovered a parallel case.
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HN (Hidden Nation)-units (as these are enslavers, holy men, lawyers, partisans, guerillas and vietcong) have a hardcoded different behaviour when attacking cities.
a) HN-units of the AI can always attack cities without declaration of war.
b) HN-units of the human player can only attack cities after declaring war to the civ that holds that city.
Please ask your common questions about CCM in the CCM-Thread.You can find it here:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=352057&page=86
Of course I like to answer your common questions about CCM and I´m glad that you do your questions
, but I´m a little bit afraid, that LKendter could become somewhat angry, as this story now is frequently interrupted by these questions and I also like it a lot, that he and all other players do this story. 
The Save is at the end of this post.
1795AD: - Trade Imperialism to Indo-China for Dyes. Cancel Furs + Horses to Israel for Spices. Incense to Egypt for 13gpt, Spices to Egypt for 16gpt
Between Turn: Musketman kills Cavalry (0,1) France and Nubia sign a MPP.
1796AD:
Lawyer kills Musketman (1,1); Mullah kills American worker; Mullah puts wounded Indo-Chinese elephant out of its misery (2,1)
At Huamanga: Villista kills Infantry (2,2); Elite Cavalry kills Villista (3,2);
Between Turn: Aztec (foolishly) and Inca sign MPP Infantry kills invisible foe by France (4,2)
Aztec declare war on us.
1797AD:
At Huamanga: Calvary kills infantry (5,2); Calvary killed by infantry (5,3); Elite Calvary kills infantry (6,3);
Between Turn: Cavalry killed by Infantry (6,4)
1798AD:
Our Adv Ironcload sinks inca ship of line (7,4), Lawyer kills enslaver (8,4)
At Huamanga: Cannon kills infantry(9,4); Cavalry kills Infantry (10,4); Cavalry kills Infantry (11,4); Huamanga is captured. Cavalry kills Infantry (12,4)
At Oliantaytambo: Cavalry kills Infantry (12,4); Calvary killed by infantry (13,5);
Between Turn: Calvary killed by infantry (13,6); Cori revolts to Inca
1799AD
Trade Saltpeter to Eqypt for 80gpt
At Corinth: Hussar kills Infantry (14,6)
At Oliantaytambo: Cavalry kills Infantry (15,6); Lawyer killed by Infantry (15,7); Cavalry kills Infantry (16,7) becomes elite; Cavalry killed by Infantry (16,8); Cavalry killed by Infantry (16,9); Cavalry kills Infantry (17,9)
Between Turn: Cavalry kills Infantry (18,9); Cavalry killed by Infantry (18,10); Infantry kills Aztec Bombard (19,10); Famous Pirate sunk by USA (19,11);
1800AD
At Cori: Hussar kills Infantry (20,11)
Between Turn: Netherlands and Inca sign MPP (Inca must be spending like crazy); Cavalry killed by Infantry (20,12);
Netherlands declares war on us owing to the MPP.
Nubia lands a rifleman and a Cavalry in our territory.
Israel demands we give them Uranium, I turn them down.
I decide to build a Royal Barracks in Shanghai because I am not sure if the Great Palace "acts like a Palace" includes acting like a barracks.
1801AD
At Cori Cavalry kills Infantry (21,12); Cavalry kills Infantry (22,12); Cavalry kills Infantry (23,12); Cavalry kills Infantry (24,12); We recaptue Cori.
At Oliantaytambo: E Schneider kills Infantry (24,12); E Heavy Artillery kills infantry (25,12); Schneider kills Infantry (26,12); Schneider kills Infantry (27,12); Ollan.. is ours.
I rename it Gateway. Culture from USA city of Seattle has pushed back the border so I culture bomb Gateway to try regain the smaller choke point.
Near Pfarsalos: Infantry kills Nubia Rifleman (28,12); Cavalry killed by Nubia cavalry (28,13); E Cavalry kills Nubia Cavalry (29,13)
At Corinth (now capital and only Inca city): Hussar kills Infantry (29,13)
At Aztec-Malinalco: Hussar kills firelancer (29,13); Cavalry kills firelancer (30,13); Cavalry kills pikeman (39,14) and becomes elite.
Malinalco is captured.
We Declare War on Greece (6 cities counting the capital only 3 on our side of the coke point).
At Delphi: Cavalry kills Hoplite (40,14); Cavalry kills Hoplite (41,14); Delphi is captured.
At Sparta: Enslaver is killed by Hoplite (42,15) Mullah kills hoplite (43,15); Sparta is capture.
Because I am tired of hearing the bugle play charge every time US Cavalry moves, I tell America to get out of our territory. This cause a portion of the USA Cavalry to be moved west while the USA ground troops are moved back to America.
Between Turn: Nubians ask for peace, I ask for all 3 of their cities and 39,600 in gold. They decide to fight on.
We learn Industrialization, now studying Chemical Industry
Owing to a MPP with the Netherlands America Declares war on us
1802AD
We steal Fascism from the Israels. Did not want Radio was hoping they researched Chemicals.
At Corinth: E Cavalry kills Infantry (44,16); E Cavalry kills Villista (45,16); E Cavalry kills Infantry (46,16); We capture Corinth and destroy the Inca. No more flips
At Aztec-Tula: Cavalry kills Trebuchet (47,16); Mullah converts Chariot to Monk (48,16);
At Athens: Enslaver makes a Hoplite into a slave (49,16);
At Dutch Haarlem: Infantry kills late pikeman (50,16);
Near Ballana: Cavalry kills US E Cavalry (51,16); Cavalry kills US Cavalry (52,16); Cavalry kills US Cavalry (53,16);
Between Turn: Austria-Hungary asks for peace. I do not know how close they are so I say no.
Many attacks by USA troops. Actual results Near Ballana we lose 2 Infantry, USA loses 2 Cavalry (55,18);
Near Gateway, at the Chokepoint We lose 2 E Knights, 2 Cavalry, and 2 Infantry. USA loses approximately 2 Calvary, 1 Hussar, 4 Rifleman and 2 Infantry; (64,24)
1803AD
At Athens: Hussar becomes elite killing Hoplite(65,24); Hussar kills Hoplite(66,24); Mullah kills Enslaver(67,24); Infantry kills Hoplite (68,24); E Enslaver turns a Hoplite into a slave (68,24), we get a Great Leader. We capture Athens ending the Greek presence on our side of the Chokepoint.
At Aztec-Tula: Hussar killed by firelancer (68,25); Infantry kills late pikeman (69,25); Cavalry kills late pikeman (70,25); Musketman kills firelancer (71,25); Tula is captured; Cavalry becomes elite killing a firelancer (72,25)
At Dutch-Breda: Cavalry kills Rifleman (73,25)
At Dutch Haarlem: Infantry becomes elite killing Rifleman (74,25); Infantry becomes elite killing late pikeman (75,25)
Near Ballana: Hussar kills Cavalry (76,26); Hussar kills Cavalry (77,26); Hussar kills Cavalry (78,26); Cavalry kills Cavary (79,26); Cavalry kills Cavary (80,26); Hussar kills Hussar (81,26); Cavalry kills Cavalry (82,26); Cavalry kills Cavalry (83,26); USA Cavalry on our side of the choke point is gone.
Near Gateway, at the Choke point: Cavalry killed by Cavalry (83,27); Lawyer converts Cavalry (84,27); E Knight kills Cavalry (85,27); Cavalry kills Rifleman (86,27); Hussar becomes elite killing rifleman (87,27); Calvary kills Amer Rifleman(88,27); Hussar kills rifleman (89,27)
Between Turn: I missed some American troops in our territory
At Arequipa: Infantry killed by Heavy Artillery (89,28); Infantry killed by Heavy Artillery (89,29); Cavalry killed by Amer Rifleman (89,30); Hussar killed by Rifleman (89,31); Cavalry killed by Amer Rifleman(89,32); Arequipa is captured by USA. We lose Battlefield Medicine.
Near Gateway, at the Choke point: We lose 3 E Knights, 2 Infantry and 1 Hussar. (89,38) Approximate USA loses 4 Amer Rifleman, 3 Rifleman, 1 Musketman. (97,38)
1804AD Our Great Leader Builds National Uranium Mine in Absolut. (I notice we can build Battlefield Medicine).
At Dutch-Breda: Cavalry kills Rifleman (98,38); Cavalry kills late pikeman (99,38); We capture Breda.
At Dutch-Haarlem: E Infantry kills Rifleman (100,38); Infantry killed by late pikeman (100,39); E Knight kills late pikeman (101,39) We capture Haarlem.
At Dutch-Delft: Infantry killed by garrisoned late pikeman (101,40). Cavalry becomes elite killing the late pikeman (102,40); Cavalry kills Rifleman (103,40); Cavalry killed by late pikeman (103,41); Enslave captures the late pikeman (104,41); We capture Delft.
Retaking Arequipa: Infantry kills Heavy Artillery (105,41); Cavalry killed by Rifleman (106,41); Hussar kills Rifleman (107,42); Lawyer finds the artist in a Rifleman (108,42); Cavalry killed by Rifleman (108,43); Infantry kills Rifleman (109,43); Infantry kills Amer rifleman (110,43); Lawyer talks Heavy Artillery to death (111,43); Cavalry kills Amer rifleman (112,43); Cavalry killed by Rifleman (112,44); Lawyer kills Rifleman (113,44) We recapture Arequipa and receive 500 gold as reparations.
Near Gateway, at the Choke point: E Cavalry kills cavalry (114,44); E Hussar kills Musketman (115,44); E Cavalry kills rifleman and we get a Great Leader (116,44): We rush the Capital in Machu Picchu. Cavalry kills Cavalry (117,44); Cavalry kills Amer rifleman (118,44);
Between Turn: USA and Indo-China sign peace treaty.
Near Gateway, at the Choke point: We lose 2 Cavalry and 1 Infantry. USA loses 1 Schneider and 1 Ame rifleman. (120,47)
1805AD
Clean up: Cavalry kills Dutch late pikeman (121,47); Cavalry kills Dutch late pikeman (122,47);
By Czar's Gold (Dutch troops): E Cavalry kills elephant (123, 47); E Cavalry kills ancient cavalry (124,47); E Cavalry kills ancient cavalry (125,47); Lawyer signs elephant to recording contract (126, 47) Calvary kills elephant (127,47); E Knight kills Knight (128,471);
Near Gateway, at the Choke point: Schneider kills marine (129,47); Heavy Artillery kills Amer Rifleman (130,47); Heavy Artillery becomes elite killing Amer rifleman (131,47); Heavy Artillery kills Amer rifleman (132,47) Cavalry killed by Amer rifleman (132,48); E Infantry kills Amer rifleman (133, 48); Cavalry kills rifleman (134,48); Cavalry kills rifleman (135,48); Cavalry kills rifleman (136,48); Cavalry kills marine (137,48); Cavalry kills Amer rifleman (138, 48); Cavalry kills amer rifleman (139,48); Cavalry kills marine (140,48); Cavalry kills amer rifleman (141,48); Mullah kills late pikeman (142,48); Mullah kills amer rifleman (143,48);
I left a few units unmoved and not fortified. Most of the troops that did not move are fortified. Our largest concentration of troops is by Gateway.
I almost have all our cities hooked up to the thin rail net.
I will post some photos later today.
1795AD: - Trade Imperialism to Indo-China for Dyes. Cancel Furs + Horses to Israel for Spices. Incense to Egypt for 13gpt, Spices to Egypt for 16gpt
Between Turn: Musketman kills Cavalry (0,1) France and Nubia sign a MPP.
1796AD:
Lawyer kills Musketman (1,1); Mullah kills American worker; Mullah puts wounded Indo-Chinese elephant out of its misery (2,1)
At Huamanga: Villista kills Infantry (2,2); Elite Cavalry kills Villista (3,2);
Between Turn: Aztec (foolishly) and Inca sign MPP Infantry kills invisible foe by France (4,2)
Aztec declare war on us.
1797AD:
At Huamanga: Calvary kills infantry (5,2); Calvary killed by infantry (5,3); Elite Calvary kills infantry (6,3);
Between Turn: Cavalry killed by Infantry (6,4)
1798AD:
Our Adv Ironcload sinks inca ship of line (7,4), Lawyer kills enslaver (8,4)
At Huamanga: Cannon kills infantry(9,4); Cavalry kills Infantry (10,4); Cavalry kills Infantry (11,4); Huamanga is captured. Cavalry kills Infantry (12,4)
At Oliantaytambo: Cavalry kills Infantry (12,4); Calvary killed by infantry (13,5);
Between Turn: Calvary killed by infantry (13,6); Cori revolts to Inca
1799AD
Trade Saltpeter to Eqypt for 80gpt
At Corinth: Hussar kills Infantry (14,6)
At Oliantaytambo: Cavalry kills Infantry (15,6); Lawyer killed by Infantry (15,7); Cavalry kills Infantry (16,7) becomes elite; Cavalry killed by Infantry (16,8); Cavalry killed by Infantry (16,9); Cavalry kills Infantry (17,9)
Between Turn: Cavalry kills Infantry (18,9); Cavalry killed by Infantry (18,10); Infantry kills Aztec Bombard (19,10); Famous Pirate sunk by USA (19,11);
1800AD
At Cori: Hussar kills Infantry (20,11)
Between Turn: Netherlands and Inca sign MPP (Inca must be spending like crazy); Cavalry killed by Infantry (20,12);
Netherlands declares war on us owing to the MPP.
Nubia lands a rifleman and a Cavalry in our territory.
Israel demands we give them Uranium, I turn them down.
I decide to build a Royal Barracks in Shanghai because I am not sure if the Great Palace "acts like a Palace" includes acting like a barracks.
1801AD
At Cori Cavalry kills Infantry (21,12); Cavalry kills Infantry (22,12); Cavalry kills Infantry (23,12); Cavalry kills Infantry (24,12); We recaptue Cori.
At Oliantaytambo: E Schneider kills Infantry (24,12); E Heavy Artillery kills infantry (25,12); Schneider kills Infantry (26,12); Schneider kills Infantry (27,12); Ollan.. is ours.
I rename it Gateway. Culture from USA city of Seattle has pushed back the border so I culture bomb Gateway to try regain the smaller choke point.
Near Pfarsalos: Infantry kills Nubia Rifleman (28,12); Cavalry killed by Nubia cavalry (28,13); E Cavalry kills Nubia Cavalry (29,13)
At Corinth (now capital and only Inca city): Hussar kills Infantry (29,13)
At Aztec-Malinalco: Hussar kills firelancer (29,13); Cavalry kills firelancer (30,13); Cavalry kills pikeman (39,14) and becomes elite.
Malinalco is captured.
We Declare War on Greece (6 cities counting the capital only 3 on our side of the coke point).
At Delphi: Cavalry kills Hoplite (40,14); Cavalry kills Hoplite (41,14); Delphi is captured.
At Sparta: Enslaver is killed by Hoplite (42,15) Mullah kills hoplite (43,15); Sparta is capture.
Because I am tired of hearing the bugle play charge every time US Cavalry moves, I tell America to get out of our territory. This cause a portion of the USA Cavalry to be moved west while the USA ground troops are moved back to America.
Between Turn: Nubians ask for peace, I ask for all 3 of their cities and 39,600 in gold. They decide to fight on.
We learn Industrialization, now studying Chemical Industry
Owing to a MPP with the Netherlands America Declares war on us
1802AD
We steal Fascism from the Israels. Did not want Radio was hoping they researched Chemicals.
At Corinth: E Cavalry kills Infantry (44,16); E Cavalry kills Villista (45,16); E Cavalry kills Infantry (46,16); We capture Corinth and destroy the Inca. No more flips
At Aztec-Tula: Cavalry kills Trebuchet (47,16); Mullah converts Chariot to Monk (48,16);
At Athens: Enslaver makes a Hoplite into a slave (49,16);
At Dutch Haarlem: Infantry kills late pikeman (50,16);
Near Ballana: Cavalry kills US E Cavalry (51,16); Cavalry kills US Cavalry (52,16); Cavalry kills US Cavalry (53,16);
Between Turn: Austria-Hungary asks for peace. I do not know how close they are so I say no.
Many attacks by USA troops. Actual results Near Ballana we lose 2 Infantry, USA loses 2 Cavalry (55,18);
Near Gateway, at the Chokepoint We lose 2 E Knights, 2 Cavalry, and 2 Infantry. USA loses approximately 2 Calvary, 1 Hussar, 4 Rifleman and 2 Infantry; (64,24)
1803AD
At Athens: Hussar becomes elite killing Hoplite(65,24); Hussar kills Hoplite(66,24); Mullah kills Enslaver(67,24); Infantry kills Hoplite (68,24); E Enslaver turns a Hoplite into a slave (68,24), we get a Great Leader. We capture Athens ending the Greek presence on our side of the Chokepoint.
At Aztec-Tula: Hussar killed by firelancer (68,25); Infantry kills late pikeman (69,25); Cavalry kills late pikeman (70,25); Musketman kills firelancer (71,25); Tula is captured; Cavalry becomes elite killing a firelancer (72,25)
At Dutch-Breda: Cavalry kills Rifleman (73,25)
At Dutch Haarlem: Infantry becomes elite killing Rifleman (74,25); Infantry becomes elite killing late pikeman (75,25)
Near Ballana: Hussar kills Cavalry (76,26); Hussar kills Cavalry (77,26); Hussar kills Cavalry (78,26); Cavalry kills Cavary (79,26); Cavalry kills Cavary (80,26); Hussar kills Hussar (81,26); Cavalry kills Cavalry (82,26); Cavalry kills Cavalry (83,26); USA Cavalry on our side of the choke point is gone.
Near Gateway, at the Choke point: Cavalry killed by Cavalry (83,27); Lawyer converts Cavalry (84,27); E Knight kills Cavalry (85,27); Cavalry kills Rifleman (86,27); Hussar becomes elite killing rifleman (87,27); Calvary kills Amer Rifleman(88,27); Hussar kills rifleman (89,27)
Between Turn: I missed some American troops in our territory
At Arequipa: Infantry killed by Heavy Artillery (89,28); Infantry killed by Heavy Artillery (89,29); Cavalry killed by Amer Rifleman (89,30); Hussar killed by Rifleman (89,31); Cavalry killed by Amer Rifleman(89,32); Arequipa is captured by USA. We lose Battlefield Medicine.Near Gateway, at the Choke point: We lose 3 E Knights, 2 Infantry and 1 Hussar. (89,38) Approximate USA loses 4 Amer Rifleman, 3 Rifleman, 1 Musketman. (97,38)
1804AD Our Great Leader Builds National Uranium Mine in Absolut. (I notice we can build Battlefield Medicine).
At Dutch-Breda: Cavalry kills Rifleman (98,38); Cavalry kills late pikeman (99,38); We capture Breda.
At Dutch-Haarlem: E Infantry kills Rifleman (100,38); Infantry killed by late pikeman (100,39); E Knight kills late pikeman (101,39) We capture Haarlem.
At Dutch-Delft: Infantry killed by garrisoned late pikeman (101,40). Cavalry becomes elite killing the late pikeman (102,40); Cavalry kills Rifleman (103,40); Cavalry killed by late pikeman (103,41); Enslave captures the late pikeman (104,41); We capture Delft.
Retaking Arequipa: Infantry kills Heavy Artillery (105,41); Cavalry killed by Rifleman (106,41); Hussar kills Rifleman (107,42); Lawyer finds the artist in a Rifleman (108,42); Cavalry killed by Rifleman (108,43); Infantry kills Rifleman (109,43); Infantry kills Amer rifleman (110,43); Lawyer talks Heavy Artillery to death (111,43); Cavalry kills Amer rifleman (112,43); Cavalry killed by Rifleman (112,44); Lawyer kills Rifleman (113,44) We recapture Arequipa and receive 500 gold as reparations.
Near Gateway, at the Choke point: E Cavalry kills cavalry (114,44); E Hussar kills Musketman (115,44); E Cavalry kills rifleman and we get a Great Leader (116,44): We rush the Capital in Machu Picchu. Cavalry kills Cavalry (117,44); Cavalry kills Amer rifleman (118,44);
Between Turn: USA and Indo-China sign peace treaty.
Near Gateway, at the Choke point: We lose 2 Cavalry and 1 Infantry. USA loses 1 Schneider and 1 Ame rifleman. (120,47)
1805AD
Clean up: Cavalry kills Dutch late pikeman (121,47); Cavalry kills Dutch late pikeman (122,47);
By Czar's Gold (Dutch troops): E Cavalry kills elephant (123, 47); E Cavalry kills ancient cavalry (124,47); E Cavalry kills ancient cavalry (125,47); Lawyer signs elephant to recording contract (126, 47) Calvary kills elephant (127,47); E Knight kills Knight (128,471);
Near Gateway, at the Choke point: Schneider kills marine (129,47); Heavy Artillery kills Amer Rifleman (130,47); Heavy Artillery becomes elite killing Amer rifleman (131,47); Heavy Artillery kills Amer rifleman (132,47) Cavalry killed by Amer rifleman (132,48); E Infantry kills Amer rifleman (133, 48); Cavalry kills rifleman (134,48); Cavalry kills rifleman (135,48); Cavalry kills rifleman (136,48); Cavalry kills marine (137,48); Cavalry kills Amer rifleman (138, 48); Cavalry kills amer rifleman (139,48); Cavalry kills marine (140,48); Cavalry kills amer rifleman (141,48); Mullah kills late pikeman (142,48); Mullah kills amer rifleman (143,48);
I left a few units unmoved and not fortified. Most of the troops that did not move are fortified. Our largest concentration of troops is by Gateway.
I almost have all our cities hooked up to the thin rail net.
I will post some photos later today.
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UGG - this game is becoming an MPP cluster f!@$!@$! 
Glad to see the Inca are gone.
For now I want to continue to concentrate on our side of the choke point. Strategically this is by far the best play, as it will give a very simple front to deal with.
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Elephantium (up)
Northern Pike (on deck)
We are getting the rail-net up just in time.
Glad to see the Inca are gone.
For now I want to continue to concentrate on our side of the choke point. Strategically this is by far the best play, as it will give a very simple front to deal with.
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LKendter
Greebley
Jersey Joe
Elephantium (up)
Northern Pike (on deck)
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Once we finish the rail-net if former Nubia, I would like to pull out all the flip standby troops. Any flips there are much less of a pain once the rail-net reaches all there cities.
We are to the point that we only need 1 good defender in interior, NON-core cities, in cities on the rail-net. With infantry in the cities, the risk of a hidden unit taking them out is low enough to risk the NON-core cities.
I would like to put a bunch of rails behind Cuzco. We are to the point I would like one staging zone for our troops. This is where I would like to put the Nubian flip protection troops.
One debate is how much longer do we push tech hard? We got the key techs with the ability to build workers and settlers.
Our wars with the Aztecs and Dutch are a waste right now as we can't get to their towns.
Sadly the French and Israel still have an MPP.
My gut says sign peace with USA to get rid of the distraction when available. We will need at least 20 turns to clear all the civs on our side of the choke, so that should NOT interfere long-term.
Get the rail-net good by Israel. Once USA peace declare on France, kill France first as they should be quick while bleeding Israel troops, then wipe Israel getting all that cash.
We are to the point that we only need 1 good defender in interior, NON-core cities, in cities on the rail-net. With infantry in the cities, the risk of a hidden unit taking them out is low enough to risk the NON-core cities.
I would like to put a bunch of rails behind Cuzco. We are to the point I would like one staging zone for our troops. This is where I would like to put the Nubian flip protection troops.
One debate is how much longer do we push tech hard? We got the key techs with the ability to build workers and settlers.
Our wars with the Aztecs and Dutch are a waste right now as we can't get to their towns.
Sadly the French and Israel still have an MPP.
My gut says sign peace with USA to get rid of the distraction when available. We will need at least 20 turns to clear all the civs on our side of the choke, so that should NOT interfere long-term.
Get the rail-net good by Israel. Once USA peace declare on France, kill France first as they should be quick while bleeding Israel troops, then wipe Israel getting all that cash.
