LK169, Italy, CCM 2.5, AWM

[Elephantium]

I counted the tiles and looked at what we'd get with full improvements:

​	Food grass​	Food hill​	Food forest​	Shields BG​	Shields hill​	Shields forest​	total food​	total shields​	x3 shields​	X3.25 shields​
red grass​	13​	6​	1​	6​	6​	1​	61​	33​	99​	107.25​
red hill​	13​	4​	3​	5​	4​	3​	61​	30​	90​	97.5​

So, late game, JJ's spot is def better for building Armored Cars (I didn't actually count up all the shield-multiplier buildings, but IIRC 2.75-3.25 is the right range for when we're building Armored Cars).

Before then, tbh I'm not sure how much the commerce advantage will matter.

Based on the data, I'll count this one as 50/50 between red/blue.

For Yellow dot, I'm also fine keeping it on this side of the river.

 

[Elephantium]

50 hammers per turn

Shields in this game

 

[LKendter]

LKendter
Greebley (up) <<< Overdue for got it
Jersey Joe (on deck)
Elephantium

 

[Greebley]

ok, I got it.

 

[Jersey Joe]

Shields in this game

I wonder why I keep using hammers, especially since I use a shield icon to denote bonus grass tiles.

I think commerce is the deciding factor since it gets added together. Lk's 2 cities provide 4 extra base commerce added to the total used to determine the amount of research we do and how much gold we add to our treasury each turn. Given how long it takes to get cities fully roaded, the extra wet tiles add up.

Except for the turns, when I could not build tanks, I would most likely build Infantry in that city.

 

[Elephantium]

I wonder why I keep using hammers, especially since I use a shield icon to denote bonus grass tiles.

I think commerce is the deciding factor since it gets added together. Lk's 2 cities provide 4 extra base commerce added to the total used to determine the amount of research we do and how much gold we add to our treasury each turn. Given how long it takes to get cities fully roaded, the extra wet tiles add up.

Except for the turns, when I could not build tanks, I would most likely build Infantry in that city.

Hammers are in Civ 4, right?

And yeah, the extra riverside tiles do add up. With that in mind, I'm on board with the hill spot/blue dot.

 

[vmxa]

Lurker:

Yes Civ4.

 

[Greebley]

I think I should go for a skip. The turns are short but, I am doing something this weekend that I need to prepare for and so am running out of time to do it all.
Sorry for the delay on deciding this. Was hoping to slip a turn in before this.

 

[LKendter]

ROSTER:
LKendter
Greebley
Jersey Joe (up)
Elephantium (on deck)

 

[Jersey Joe]

I got it.

 

[Jersey Joe]

Late set teaser

Civinator, the City State civilopedia is the Acropolis shown as a City Imp, but in the entry for Acropolis it is listed as a Small Wonder?

Report to follow.

 

[LKendter]

Congrats. IIRC the GL also gives free settlers.

What a weird AW game.

 

[Jersey Joe]

Continuing 225 AD: Increase research to 50%, Pottery due in two.

IBT: Veil builds The Limes, we enter our Golden Age.

250 AD: Drop research slider to 10%, Pottery still due in 1 turn.
East of Pompeii, eEnslaver captures US Brave (1, 0).
West of Antium, eEnslaver captures Maghreb Warrior (2, 0).
East of Sheepish, Pig Iron Enslaver kills US Brave (3, 0).

IBT: Maghreb wants 60 gold and 10 gpt from us for a peace treaty. We politely decline the offer by sending the envoy’s head back to the Maghreb.
We learn Pottery. Literature due in 4 turns.
Roman builds a Granary and begins building a Forge.
Antium completes The Roman Senate.

A Japanese Warrior appears north of Sheepish Pig Iron.

275 AD: We declare war on Japan.

300 AD: East of Sheepish Pig Iron, eEnslaver captures US Archer (4, 0).
West of Antium, Enslaver kills Maghreb Warrior (5, 0).

IBT: Our Spearman scouting US territory is killed by US Archer (5, 1).

325 AD: East of Antium, eEnslaver kills US Brave (6, 1).

350 AD: Workers continue to build Infrastructure.

IBT: We become literate. Drop research to 0%. The Wheel due in 44. Rome begins building the Great Library, due in 6 turns.

375 AD: Workers continue to build Infrastructure.

400 AD: Northwest of Rome Enslave kills Chinese Archer (7, 1).
East of Antium, eEnslaver kills US Archer (8, 1).

IBT: West of Cumae, Spearman causes Enslaver to retreat.

425 AD: West of Cumae, eEnslaver captures Enslaver (9,1).

IBT: West of Cumae, eEnslaver kills Enslaver (10,1).

450 AD: North of Sheepish, eEnslaver kills Japanese Warrior (11, 1).

475 AD: Northwest of Rome Enslave kills Chinese Archer (12, 1)
Southwest of Cumae, Enslaver kills Chinese Archer (13, 1).

500 AD – 525AD: Workers continue to build Infrastructure.

IBT: East of Antium, Roman Legionary forces a Inca Chariot to retreat.
Rome Builds the Great Library.

550 AD: eEnslaver captures Inca Chariot (14,1).
Defending Veil: Praetorian kills US Archer (15, 1); Legionaries kill 2 Archers (17, 1); eArcher kills Archer (18, 1); eWarrior kills Archer (19, 1); eEnslaver kills Archer (20, 1).
West of Rome: eEnslavers kill 2 Chinese Archers (22, 1).

Notes and Suggestions:

• There are 2 Settlers headed to LK’s Light Blue Dot.
  • The Roading crew on the hill next to that spot builds 1 turn roads.
• There is a Horse North of LK’s Blue Dot.
  • The Spearman standing on the Pig at Sheepish Pig Iron is for fog busting North of the Horse.
• I think we should reap the full Benefits of the Great Library and not do any research until we reach the Age of Discovery and use the extra gold to short rush some buildings.
• See next post for a Map of the known world in 550AD

 

[Jersey Joe]

The known world 550AD:

 

[LKendter]

The number of civs is getting unreal. Now Japan is on the list. We haven't taken a single AI city yet.

It sounds like our enslavers continue load us up with workers.

I am glad to see we have horses nearby. Add green dot to the left of the horses as a site to build.

The buildup of cash while the Great Library is active is tricky. Are buildings now more valuable, cash to upgrade units, or cash for deficit research when it expires.


ROSTER:
LKendter (on deck)
Greebley
Jersey Joe
Elephantium (up)

 

[Civinator]

Civinator, the City State civilopedia is the Acropolis shown as a City Imp, but in the entry for Acropolis it is listed as a Small Wonder?

Jersey Joe, the Acropolis is a SW and this is written in the entry of the Acropolis and there is nothing noted, that it is not a SW in the government City State entry. What entry do you mean ?

Spoiler :

 

[Jersey Joe]

Jersey Joe, the Acropolis is a SW and this is written in the entry of the Acropolis and there is nothing noted, that it is not a SW in the government City State entry. What entry do you mean ?

These 2 entries do not show it as a small wonder:

Spoiler :

Spoiler :

 

[Civinator]

Jersey Joe, you are correct about the Acropolis. In the editor the SW flag was not tickled for that building. Thank you very much for reporting that error, otherwise this error would have made it even into CCM 2.6.

 

[LKendter]

ROSTER:
LKendter (on deck)
Greebley
Jersey Joe
Elephantium (up)

 

[Greebley]

Great work on getting the great library!

I will be gone until Sunday possibly late, but not sure yet how late