mass murderer brutally executed in Iran

[sysyphus]

I think he got less than what he desearves... Those of you who say that it is barbaric and that I am very disturbed and sick individual, get to know a victim of rape, see how it affects them... See them have nightmares every night and wake up scared and crying... Things like rape should not ever happen, but when they do, I would inflict as much pain and suffering upon the person who commited it and make it public too. That way, perhaps people will think twice before commiting such atrocities...

I'd buy into that if it made the suffering of the victim go away, but it doesn't.

 

[RedWolf]

Double Barrel
Its not the kind of arguement where either person will change views, except possibly over a long period of time - certainly not on a web forum.

Actually you know what? I changed views when I witnessed a Canadian being released from prison (10 years later) after being wrongfully convicted (due to police corruption and negligence) of a child rape/murder.

Someone that all the death penalty supporters would have loved to see publicly tortured.

 

[sysyphus]

Actually you know what? I changed views when I witnessed a Canadian being released from prison (10 years later) after being wrongfully convicted (due to police corruption and negligence) of a child rape/murder.

He was only one of many.

If the justice system in one of the world's most open and progressive countries fails that many innocent accused, what faith can one put into that of one of the most oppressive regimes?

 

[Ramius75]

A life for a life. so yes i do support death penalty, but given that the evidence are there and indisputable. in this case, 100 lashes and a stab from relative before hanging is ok with me. The murderer is sick. there should be no excuse for that. in fact, i think all the victims family should have a good whacking him.

The penalty should be proportional to the crime . (ideally)

 

[RedWolf]

A life for a life. so yes i do support death penalty, but given that the evidence are there and indisputable. in this case, 100 lashes and a stab from relative before hanging is ok with me. The murderer is sick. there should be no excuse for that. in fact, i think all the victims family should have a good whacking him.

The penalty should be proportional to the crime . (ideally)

You claim that you only support the death penalty when the evidence is indisputable.

However you then go on to support this particular case yet know absolutely nothing about the evidence or details of the case besides the crime. So do you conditionally or unconditionally support the death penalty?

 

[Taliesin]

Just as a side note, lethal injection isn't at all a pleasant way to die. It causes the entire brain to erupt into a storm of electrical activity-- basically a painful and horrible grand mal seizure, but more extensive and prolonged. For PR purposes the cocktail injected includes a paralytic drug so that it appears that the victim just goes to sleep.

 

[Ramius75]

You claim that you only support the death penalty when the evidence is indisputable.

However you then go on to support this particular case yet know absolutely nothing about the evidence or details of the case besides the crime. So do you conditionally or unconditionally support the death penalty?

yes, i dont really know the evidence behind this particular instances. im giving my example provided that this is the case is genuine and the murderer is guilty. He deserved the punishment and those that i suggested.

 

[Hygro]

I'd like to post some long rambling 'liberal' post about the fact that the death penalty fails to deter murder, that murder by the state is no more acceptable than murder by the individual, my belief that the death penalty, especially this kind of violent and 'unusual' killing, normalises violence in society etc, the fact that states with the death penalty have higher murder rates than those without and that states with the death penalty tend to be less developed, poorer, extremist, etc. but im going out to get wasted on booze instead

Brilliant!

 

[Yom]

Just as a side note, lethal injection isn't at all a pleasant way to die. It causes the entire brain to erupt into a storm of electrical activity-- basically a painful and horrible grand mal seizure, but more extensive and prolonged. For PR purposes the cocktail injected includes a paralytic drug so that it appears that the victim just goes to sleep.

Why don't they just inject water and a paralytic drug?

 

[Taliesin]

Why don't they just inject water and a paralytic drug?

No idea. If they have to kill people, I'd rather it be done via morphine overdose.
Although you have to admire the ancient Indian practice of having an elephant step on the victim's head.

 

[FriendlyFire]

No idea. If they have to kill people, I'd rather it be done via morphine overdose.
Although you have to admire the ancient Indian practice of having an elephant step on the victim's head.

What about the Russian method of hammering a spent bullet casing into the skull ?

 

[Taliesin]

What about the Russian method of hammering a spent bullet casing into the skull ?

No, this could backfire and create an invincible villain. Honestly, don't you watch the movies?

 

[Sanaz]

The only problem I have with this is that he got off far too easy. Murderers and rapists, especially when the victims are children, deserve the absolute worst punishment that humans can invent, and then painful death. It's not for revenge or deterrence, it's just because some people need a good old fashioned beating and killing. I have no idea what this has to do with "civilized" or "barbaric", as some have suggested. Someone as uncivilized and barbaric as this rapist murderer doesn't deserve anything, not even a second thought.

 

[Ramius75]

The only problem I have with this is that he got off far too easy. Murderers and rapists, especially when the victims are children, deserve the absolute worst punishment that humans can invent, and then painful death. It's not for revenge or deterrence, it's just because some people need a good old fashioned beating and killing. I have no idea what this has to do with "civilized" or "barbaric", as some have suggested. Someone as uncivilized and barbaric as this rapist murderer doesn't deserve anything, not even a second thought.

Some ancient execution methods including,

hung, drawn and quarter
crush by elephants
cooking in pot
cruxification
impaling
burn on BBQ fire (i invented this 1 )
cutting the flesh bits by bits

 

[blindside]

Some ancient execution methods including,

hung, drawn and quarter
crush by elephants
cooking in pot
cruxification
impaling
burn on BBQ fire (i invented this 1 )
cutting the flesh bits by bits

And getting liquid hot metal poured down your ears/mouth.

 

[Ramius75]

And getting liquid hot metal poured down your ears/mouth.

human are able to conceive everything and sadistic so im not surprise. In ancient china, there was even 1 that the arms and legs, tongues and ears and of coz the *ahem is cut off and the person will be keep in a urn, force feeding to keep him/her alive as possible.

The emperor Liu Ying resided Ruyi in the palace and checked for poison in any aliment delivered to him. Ying also brought Ruyi with him wherever he went. In one early morning in the twelfth month of the first year of Emperor Hui, the emperor must attend a shooting ritual; this time Ruyi was left alone since he could not wake up early. Ying supposed her mother would not plot against his brother as several months of secured days came and went. Nevertheless Dowager Lü had someone forced venom down Ruyi's throat....She then chopped off Qi's arms and legs, blinded her by scooping out her eyes, dumbed and abandoned her to live in restroom, and insulted her as "the Human Pig" (人&#24408. Several days after, Empress Dowager Lü recalled Emperor Hui to have a look of "the Human Pig". After knowing who "the Human Pig" was, the weak emperor was so sick of Lü's cruelty that he virtually relinquished his authority, withdrew himself to carnal pleasures. [Records of Grand Historian, ch.9, p.397]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concubine_Qi

 

[FriendlyFire]

And getting liquid hot metal poured down your ears/mouth.

That was the mongols.
(I believe it was punishment for stealing carried out in public on offcials and nobles)

Also burning in BBQ. While not in the moden sence rosting people alive on spits was quite popular during the dark ages. (Insqusition)

 

[CurtSibling]

Yeah, same to you...

Hmmm!

A well-thought response there!

Says the person on the sidelines . Have you ever been to prison? Talk to me about how much it costs when you have an idea yourself.

Actually, my brother is in prison, smart guy.

So I think the cost of a single bullet would be far cheaper.

I've never been to church in my life.

But you still spew the same pointless hypocritcal morals.

Is being a hateful killer/rapist right or wrong?

Work that one out for yourself.

So your willingness to kill him is not based on morality, but on a lust for revenge?

Nope.

It is based on social engineering, the need to remove cancers from our midst.

The thought of his execution made me feel ill. Not as ill as his crimes did, FWIW.

Why should society pander to your weak stomach?

I'm not sure which part of that sentence is more amusing. Probably the bit where you call it a fact. Yeah, that's it.

Not as amusing as you bleating out the same christian morality that
preaches tolerance but let people be burned at the stake and tortured.

Verily, you have no clue.

So why bring it up?

Why do you pander to killers and rapists?

Anyway, this is getting boring. You can have the last word if you want, I don't care.

This is not about having the last word.

This is about the twisted ideas about supporting and 'respecting' the inhuman filth in our species.

Frankly, I find your kind thinking to be mildly insane.

A mass rapist or child killer has lost any rights to be treated like a human.
.

 

[Jawz II]

Who says the government was in for the guy, could have been just the police having fun.

It's happened in Canada, and if it can happen here, it sure as hell can happen in Iran.

I'd say it's likely that the guy is guilty, but I hesitiate to jump on the bandwagon celebrating his brutal execution.

are you kidding me?

you dont have to celebrate anything, just admit you were wrong instead of making up insane conspiracy theories!

 

[Jawz II]

From the article:

"The case provoked national outrage in Iran. Sixteen police officers were reprimanded for dereliction of duty and the Interior Ministry criticised the police for failing to catch the suspects after the first crime"

Sounds like pretty strong motivation for a corrupt immoral police force to find somebody, ANYBODY for a brutal public hanging.

That's how the innocent usually end up wrongly convicted in this country (Canada) - mass hysteria, politics and ignorance.

the murders in the area have stopped, unless youre gonna suggest the police did those murders and rapes too, this dose not hold any water

also youre forgetting, the police didnt get this guy, the little kid did