Massive Hamas tunnel network discovered.

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One senior Cabinet member I spoke with this week described that possibility to me: “Imagine," he said, “that we are in the middle of a conflict with Hezbollah up north. Our top-notch infantry brigades are up there, in the north, when suddenly Hamas deploys its network of dozens of tunnels all at once. Some 2,000 Hamas commandos suddenly burst out of them and embark on a killing spree, slaughtering thousands of people in the cities and towns across Israel’s south, from Sderot through Ashkelon, Netivot and Ofakim, maybe even all the way to Beersheba. Who would stop them? The police? The air force? It would take weeks to clean up the mess, and at the end of the entire process, we would find death and destruction across southern Israel. I know,” the minister continued, “that it sounds like a figment of the imagination, but based on what we are discovering these days, the scenario is far more realistic than it is imaginary. In this region, the reality easily exceeds anything we can imagine.”

What originally led to Israel’s ground assault in Gaza was the tunnel near Kibbutz Sufa from which 13 Hamas commandos emerged. They were seen coming out of the tunnel by scouts in an Israel Defense Forces observation post. Video of the ensuing battle, which took place that same morning, aired on all of Israel’s TV networks. The commandos can be seen coming out of the tunnel dressed in IDF uniforms, with all of the standard equipment, with body armor, camouflaged helmets and toques (knit caps) and an enormous amount of weapons. They crawled across the ground together, performing together rolls and rescue maneuvers, until, apparently, they suddenly heard the motor of one of the IDF’s unmanned aircraft or the ignition of a tank that was turned on in the sector by accident, and they raced and pushed themselves back into the tunnel. An IDF aircraft fired a few rockets, but not all of the commandos were hit.

The film footage shocked Israel. Suddenly, everybody realized how permeable Israel’s border wall along the Gaza Strip really is, how much we had been living for the past few years beside a barrel of gunpowder on the edge of a volcano. Even ministers Yair Lapid and Tzipi Livni, who did not support a ground incursion until that morning, withdrew their opposition, clearing the way for the operation to begin. At first, it was said that it would take three days to clean out the tunnels and destroy them. Now they are already talking about three weeks. This is not some effort to win time. It is an effort to win lives. Israel believed before that Hamas had three strategic tunnels. The current estimate is that there are 30, and perhaps a lot more.
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The plan was apparently to do this on Rosh Hashanah, the Jewish new year.
 
warpus said:
Where does the article talk about new tunnels being discovered? (maybe I missed it)
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They already have been. This story has been breaking in Israel while Westerners make causality comparisons.
 
warpus said:
Oh, so this thread isn't about a new network of tunnels that has been discovered?

So why did you use that as the title?
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It's a bit embarrassing because I don't really watch Israeli news, but I've just found out about it myself. :)

(New tunnels are being discovered every day, though.)
 
Mouthwash said:
It's a bit embarrassing because I don't really watch Israeli news, but I've just found out about it myself. :)

(New tunnels are being discovered every day, though.)
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I am under the impression that you are intending to use that to convince us of something. Go on?
 
A tunnel to Cyprus would be interesting.
 
How the heck could the Palestinians have built these things without the Israelis knowing? The Yiddish papers are reporting some academic paper from a few years ago that 160 children died in building these tunnels. The tunnels are lined with concrete panels. The tunnel workers got paid. I myself saw video of a kid taking fast food orders from Egypt through tunnels to families in Gaza. Yet oddly Israeli intelligence agents knew nothing about them.

"I am shocked, shocked, gambling is going on here."

Besides, this war is not about tunnels. It is not about rockets. It is about punishing Hamas and Gaza for a killing that took place in the West Bank.
 
Paul in Saudi said:
How the heck could the Palestinians have built these things without the Israelis knowing? The Yiddish papers are reporting some academic paper from a few years ago that 160 children died in building these tunnels. The tunnels are lined with concrete panels. The tunnel workers got paid. I myself saw video of a kid taking fast food orders from Egypt through tunnels to families in Gaza. Yet oddly Israeli intelligence agents knew nothing about them.
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That's because tunnels are underground and cannot be spotted by eye?

Besides, this war is not about tunnels. It is not about rockets. It is about punishing Hamas and Gaza for a killing that took place in the West Bank.
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Funny how Pro-Palestinians try to make every possible scenario work for them. Some claim that Israel is disguising its motives by using the killings as a casus belli, and some claim that the killings caused the war and it is therefore unjust.
 
Mouthwash said:
Funny how Pro-Palestinians try to make every possible scenario work for them. Some claim that Israel is disguising its motives by using the killings as a casus belli, and some claim that the killings caused the war and it is therefore unjust.
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While still others recognize that Israel can always say 'they might shoot rockets' or 'they might dig tunnels' or 'they may throw rocks at us'. So Israel will always see themselves as completely justified in killing everyone with hands.
 
They might smuggle food and water through those tunnels so those officials at the checkpoints can't get their bribes. Or, worst of all: smuggle out video footage. Now there's your greatest weapon that "threatens Israel's existence": The truth.
 
Paul in Saudi said:
How the heck could the Palestinians have built these things without the Israelis knowing? The Yiddish papers are reporting some academic paper from a few years ago that 160 children died in building these tunnels. The tunnels are lined with concrete panels. The tunnel workers got paid. I myself saw video of a kid taking fast food orders from Egypt through tunnels to families in Gaza. Yet oddly Israeli intelligence agents knew nothing about them.

"I am shocked, shocked, gambling is going on here."

Besides, this war is not about tunnels. It is not about rockets. It is about punishing Hamas and Gaza for a killing that took place in the West Bank.
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The Israelis military have been detonating massive explosive charges along the border in an attempt to collapse these tunnels since forever. Probably have grown in size and sophistication since Hamas took control.
Iam pretty sure that Fatah control the west bank while Hamas controls the gaza strip.
 
Is there even any point?
 
tetley said:
They might smuggle food and water through those tunnels so those officials at the checkpoints can't get their bribes. Or, worst of all: smuggle out video footage. Now there's your greatest weapon that "threatens Israel's existence": The truth.
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Did you know, that Hamas cut the power to Gaza? :p
 
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