[UNIT] Mighty Ships Et Al

[PPQ_Purple]

Seems like it fires the missiles I made. Good to see them put to good use.

 

[pecheneg]

Thank you very much, о best of unitmakers

 

[pecheneg]

That is a nice bit of work there Toad. What culture is that? I couldn't tell from the picture.

The armored archers and Co. in the upper image are Assyrians. There is an Assyrian charioteer in the same armor, but the image is displayed strangely on the site. A little more archers

 

[pecheneg]

The Egyptian war chariot is a done deal, but how cool would it be to ride around with a champion unit like this?

Yes, chariots with an archer shooting with one hand and the rest of the chariots without an archer at all, this is a very alternative story. They are even more "historical" with "proletarian" soldiers without armor. The authors were clearly inspired by this

in reality, purely shock chariots are a rare exclusive-except for the Persian ones with scythes. At the same time, there is maximum armor.

 

[ramzay1945]

Tachanka - a real-historical type of troops, which had a certain effectiveness. It is not surprising that some researchers and artists believe that in ancient times chariots fought in a similar way.

Spoiler :

 

[PPQ_Purple]

I just can't get over the caption on that image...

 

[rtt4a]

Just Mycenaean gallys. Nothing exciting really. I was getting bored with it since all the talk about starships.
Check this out:

I didn't make the model. Whomever made it did a fantastic job. It is flawless. I attempted to consolidate the dozen textures into something game friendly. Not remotely done. But for 2 hours distraction it looks alright in game I think.

Wow! I think thats first Galactica model in Civ4. Models looks same what someone did in Galactic civilizations. There was really talented unit makers in GalCiv modding community, lots of incredible units in all famous scifi movies and tv-shows.. Where did you find that?

Absolutely beatiful unit, thank you very much
edit: theres no kfm-file in your rar, what kfm this use..?

 

[tantanmen]

Yeah the BSG is a beauty

Assyrians

pecheneg you might be interested in this art: TAM-ethnic-units by ambox62. He made about a thousand units for The Ancient Mediterranean mod. Xyth of History-Rewritten also represents the Assyrians.

Spoiler Assyrians :

I'm on my phone right now, but I can upload units later, if there's anything you like pecheneg

Here's a little concept art for the Assyrian armored archer. Although the face mail covers the popular beard

Spoiler Hit me with your best shot, fire awaaaay :

Sorry, I tried to dance around the watermarks

EDIT: welcome to the forum @pecheneg

 

[pecheneg]

Yeah the BSG is a beauty


pecheneg you might be interested in this art: TAM-ethnic-units by ambox62. He made about a thousand units for The Ancient Mediterranean mod. Xyth of History-Rewritten also represents the Assyrians.

Thank you, I have already discovered and downloaded TAM. Armored javelin throwers in antiquity are too conspicuous fighters not to look for them.
Thanks a lot for the offer, but I won't bother you yet. The mod is still in the stage of thinking and searching for content, plus I vaguely hope to implement a few tactical ideas. For example, to reliably simulate a battle involving heavy and light infantry with impunity and mutual fire. The effectiveness of the spearmen also depended on the number of active ranks - that is, on the size of the squad/the number of spearmen on the stack. Thank you for a great meeting on the forum . They say that Caesar regularly spoke at the forum.Not quite on that, but a couple of basiliks are minor details.
Yes, the beard is the most important part of Assyrian equipment. With a mustache, you can only briefly conquer Kuwait.

 

[MightyToad]

Yes, the beard is the most important part of Assyrian equipment. With a mustache, you can only briefly conquer Kuwait.

Now that is awesome. Does it come with lasers?

No, the Galactica only has missiles and guns. I used Purples missile for testing purposes since it was already set up from the Stealth copter from his thread.

Wow! I think thats first Galactica model in Civ4. Models looks same what someone did in Galactic civilizations. There was really talented unit makers in GalCiv modding community, lots of incredible units in all famous scifi movies and tv-shows.. Where did you find that?

Absolutely beatiful unit, thank you very much
edit: theres no kfm-file in your rar, what kfm this use..?

It is rigged to the gunship (gunship.kfm). However, I used the version with missiles (for the Stealth chopper) that I posted in Purples thread.
I didn't include anything but the unit because it is just to demonstrate the idea. I didn't think anyone would actually want to use it.
I downloaded a ton of starship models years ago. I don't remember where I got that one. I think it was from CAD something. Maybe CADnav? I vacuumed up everything I could find. Star Trek, Star Wars, Star Gate.... ect. I think Star Gate ships would be more appropriate for this game. Maybe whoever is first to discover the Star Gate (or research/build wonder) gets access to the ships.

I've got two new ones for you, if you have the time MightyToad. They use the same structure though, so copying one finished texture to another should work out pretty well.

It's based on an artist's theoretical Aztec cannon. I consider it a good unit for a Great Bombard, and also a good frame for a Meso catapult. Two birds, one stone.

Here you are. I had to make custom animations for both. The Bombard gave me the most trouble.

 

[Sword_Of_Geddon]

Mitsudo and Toad make a good team....

 

[Matsuda123]

Here you are. I had to make custom animations for both. The Bombard gave me the most trouble.

Thank you very much. I really appreciate the custom stuff. I know that isn't easy. I'll touch them up and release them shortly. I'll try to make future units less difficult.

 

[Sword_Of_Geddon]

You know for future reference two other groupings of native american cultures lack representation.

The ships already made by Chuggi are based on Andean ships, so that part is covered. But this is in your department Metsuda, what would siege units of the Inca and other Andean cultures look like?

As for northern native americans, not counting Northwest Coast(I made a entire line of reskined, so Idk), thats uncharted territory. Alot of these cultures weren't on the coast so canoes and river based navies would be the rule until someone settled or conquered a way to the coast.

Which is similiar to the Thai and other Southeast Asian peoples:

Keeping conversation going is all.

 

[Matsuda123]

I haven't even begun to think of Andean type stuff honestly... It'll be a while, if I get around to that. I'm mostly knocking out the big cultural groupings so that people can at least have a standard unit to use for that group, rather than default European.

Native Americans of the North will definitely get a siege unit lineup. I don't mean to group them all together. I know they're very different. But practically speaking, I don't think I can conceive of that many units for the tribes, even if I had them by regions. I'll likely focus on the middle of the US, or just continue to develop the Haida. I'm not sure currently. I'll likely rename the generic Native America in my mod to the Cahokians I think...

I also mostly intend to stay close to the vanilla unit lineup, and complete that for various culture groups that are currently lacking. Some deviations though, like bombards and possibly hand cannons.

I will surely make some Southeast Asian ships too.

 

[MightyToad]

I'm currently puzzled with this Minoan ship. I've seen several conflicting pictures that show the steering oars on the "front", or what I initially assumed was the rear. After much thought I've decided that the thin tapered end must be the rear. That would be consistent with other contemporary ships of the era. And since all these ships seem to be ultimately derived from Phoenician ships.

I like Native American tribes, but everything from this point on would be in the "What-If" category.

 

[Sword_Of_Geddon]

For the Minoans, they were an ancient culture, may have predated the Phoenicians alittle bit, not sure, but they two cultures would have diffenitely traded. Phoenicians were about trade and the Minoans had island kingdoms for them to take advantage of. Whoever invented that design, it would have been one of the standard designs of its era, and yeah the thinner part would be the part that is the back of the ship.

Matsuda: I would not know where to start with siege, i have ideas but i'd have to think further. Remember when I saw natives I'm thinking the Woodland cultures and Mississippians and the derivatives that came later like the Cherokee.

Remember the Mackinaw ship? Up north I imagine the Canoe shape would persist. Sailing canoe would evolve into multi sail vessels. but don't expect the fancy serpent heads and such. i think these guys would be more down to earth. still there is room for creativity.

 

[MightyToad]

I think I have the Minoan ship facing the right way. Couple of keepers. Couple of meh. The solar ship isn't really mycenaean(I think). Predates the others by a thousand years probably. I think it is more a river barge than anything. But looks cool.

https://forums.civfanatics.com/resources/mycenaean-galleys.28854/

 

[PPQ_Purple]

Those do look good. At this rate I'll have to take a look at my ship module and see which of all your designs I can incorporate into it with tweaks. And I just did. And I will. Because awesome.

 

[tantanmen]

Nothing meh here I can assure you. They're very precise and make me want to learn how to get ships in the bottle as a backup hobby

Yeah, I'll probably get back to ships once other units are done. Ancient Mediterranean galleys haven't been done to death, yet.

So have you said your peace on Fleets of the Mediterranean?

Also, any chance I can interest you in crafting a Boar's Tusk Helmet for some marauding Mycenaeans (aka Odysseus and company)?

Thank you MightyToad!

 

[Sword_Of_Geddon]

Those ships are amazing. Those are the ships that sailed a long time before even the Bireme was invented. The ships of Homer's Greeks, the Mycenians, as well as Phoenician and Minoan, two peoples that helped create the more familiar ancient Greek culture that appeared later.

Amazing work Toad!