Mom kills son, then self at shooting range

Playing devil's advocate here - despite Freedom of Speech - it is against the law to yell "Fire!" in the theater, or incite people to riot. Preventing people from believing in imaginary afterlife could be analogous.

You cannot legally practice Satanism, either. If it harms other people, therein lies the limitation.
 
If it wasn't for her irrational religious beliefs (are they any other?), like hell and heaven, this wouldn't have happened. Instead of banning guns - you may want to ban the root of the problem - religion.

Problem with that is the under the religious beliefs she claimed as her influence, she could not be the Antichrist.

The Bible itself never used Antichrist as a proper noun and people who interpret the Bible in that manner believe the Antichrist will be a man. So she made up the religious viewpoint she claimed in the suicide note.
 
If it wasn't for her irrational religious beliefs (are they any other?), like hell and heaven, this wouldn't have happened. Instead of banning guns - you may want to ban the root of the problem - religion.

if she killed her son and herself because she believed that she was actually a sith lord and her son was her apprentice would you promote a ban on Star Wars?

do you religion blamers see yourselves as any different from those people that blame video games for violent crimes because your not any different you freaking hypocrites
 
do you religion blamers see yourselves as any different from those people that blame video games for violent crimes because your not any different you freaking hypocrites
Oooh, I wanted to make that comparison. :(
 
if she killed her son and herself because she believed that she was actually a sith lord and her son was her apprentice would you promote a ban on Star Wars?

do you religion blamers see yourselves as any different from those people that blame video games for violent crimes because your not any different you freaking hypocrites
Anything to promote a ban on new Star Wars stuff. It's all terrible.

Crazy people do crazy things, regardless of religion. I once had some skitzo guy inform me that I was in "Scott's Kingdom," and he wasn't afraid to kill everyone in the world. Pretty sure "Scott" isn't the name of any god I've heard of.
 
What idiots who are blaming religion for this miss is that while religion provides justifications for isolated incidents like this, the safety net it provides psychologically and for society more than makes up for it (we'd have a lot more murders without church than we do with it).
 
What idiots who are blaming religion for this miss is that while religion provides justifications for isolated incidents like this, the safety net it provides psychologically and for society more than makes up for it (we'd have a lot more murders without church than we do with it).
So the 9/11 hijackers would have murdered even more people if they didn't have a religious safety net?
 
So the 9/11 hijackers would have murdered even more people if they didn't have a religious safety net?

Yes, because what I obviously meant was that all events would happen in the exact same fashion only without religious motives.
 
So the 9/11 hijackers would have murdered even more people if they didn't have a religious safety net?

They wouldn't have murdered people at all. That's the point.

If there isn't a God to kill for, then why kill? (The irony of religion)
 
Religion is not the main source which cause people to kill, cheat, steal and lie. It's in the human heart to do these things already. Since religion is often used to determine right and wrong, people will tried to abuse it to gain power or to justify something they want to do anyways.
 
If there isn't a God to kill for, then why kill? (The irony of religion)

Nationalism? "The United $tate$ of AmeriKKKa invades, exploits and oppresses Arabic natons. We need to commit some revenge to that evil people".
 
people she was a crazy woman with a goal to kill herself and her son i think she would have accomplished her goals with or without a gun

and religion isn't even to blame here either

Yep. She could have hopped in a car with him and gunned it straight into a wall.
 
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