Much Ado About Lesbian Teen Sex?

[JollyRoger]

Given the way the 18th birthday was emphasized, it was probably relevant for criminally culpabilty. It is possible that 17-14 is not prosecutable because of the structure of the Romeo and Juliet law or it may be that 18 is the point that one can be charged as an adult and face harsher consequnces. Nevertheless, they found out about the sexual relatuoinship and did not control their daughter enough to stop it.

 

[bhsup]

Oh, okay. See, I was confused cuz there was no reference of race anywhere in here. So not sure what point you're trying to make, but okay. Except, of course, you're injecting race into something that has nothing to do with race, helping make my point!

 

[rugbyLEAGUEfan]

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[Thedrin]

Given the way the 18th birthday was emphasized, it was probably relevant for criminally culpabilty. It is possible that 17-14 is not prosecutable because of the structure of the Romeo and Juliet law or it may be that 18 is the point that one can be charged as an adult and face harsher consequnces. Nevertheless, they found out about the sexual relatuoinship and did not control their daughter enough to stop it.

The Romeo and Juliet law is an Irish law and I doubt that's influencing the prosecutor in this case.

It's actually also not specified how only the older child was when the parents found out.

I must agree that the parents of the younger child have not handed this in the best way. I also don't think that the illegal acts justify the kind of punishments that are possible.

 

[bhsup]

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I guess you can pretend they're lesbians...

 

[JollyRoger]

The Romeo and Juliet law is an Irish law and I doubt that's influencing the prosecutor in this case.

Actually, the term Romeo and Juliet law is generically applied to how the law in a jurisdiction handles it when those young and close in age have sex even though one or both are under the age of consent.

 

[MobBoss]

The suggestion is that so often similar cases involving heterosexuals go unpursued by the authorities and that in effect heterosexuals are above the law.

Actually, we have more than a few threads in this forum about it involving heterosexuals. One of them led to a change in a particular state law for a young man that had been convicted in a similar situation and sentenced to years in prison.

So, no, the allegation that it isn't pursued if heterosexuals are involved is just simply false.

 

[Thedrin]

Actually, the term Romeo and Juliet law is generically applied to how the law in a jurisdiction handles it when those young and close in age have sex even though one or both are under the age of consent.

I learned something. Thanks for the explanation.

 

[Oruc]

Of course a fourteen year old can consent. We simply don't regard that consent as having any legal weight, which is altogether different matter, because it's a matter of consensus and thus flexible, for better or worse, and not simply a matter of fact.

Why do you do this everytime? you knew perfectly well what I meant. Stop nitpicking that is jerkish behaviour.

 

[JollyRoger]

Given that the Virgin Mary was likely under the modern age of consent when she conceived, I wonder if Satan has led us astray in setting the modern cut-offs.

 

[Thedrin]

That's probably why Jesus hasn't been reborn yet.

 

[Silurian]

Why do you do this everytime? you knew perfectly well what I meant. Stop nitpicking that is jerkish behaviour.

It would have been legal in many countries so it is a case of legal consent rather than actual consent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Europe

I assume you are not arguing that US citizens have less mental capacity than Europeans.

 

[Traitorfish]

Why do you do this everytime? you knew perfectly well what I meant. Stop nitpicking that is jerkish behaviour.

It's not nitpicking, it's a relevant distinction. The whole issue is that the law might be flawed and so demand revision, which means the basis of that law in consensus rather than self-evident fact is important.

 

[Oruc]

It would have been legal in many countries so it is a case of legal consent rather than actual consent.

I just said that was what I meant? Must I spell out every little thing?
The thread is about a legal case what else would I be talking about in this instance, why can you not work that out? "fools rush in" so the saying goes Silurian.

It's not nitpicking, it's a relevant distinction. The whole issue is that the law might be flawed and so demand revision, which means the basis of that law in consensus rather than self-evident fact is important.

It should be obvious I was talking about legal consent. She should have taken the plea (although she should never have given it in my opinion) and this would have been swept under the rug. It isn't homophobia to treat her like other offenders.

 

[warpus]

So a 17 and a 14 year old had sex a couple times.. do both of them get charged with st. rape? It doesn't look like it, but why not?

 

[Traitorfish]

When I try to read the subtext of people's posts, I get accused of strawmanning.

When I take them at their word, I get accused of nitpicking.

There's no winning.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

so they wait till she just turned 18 to have the girl arrested.

They didn't even talk to her, or ask her to stop seeing her daughter ...

That is just all kinds of &#$@ed up.

 

[Oruc]

When I try to read the subtext of people's posts, I get accused of strawmanning.

When I take them at their word, I get accused of nitpicking.

There's no winning.

Well you being consistently wrong about things is just something you'll have to work on

That is just all kinds of &#$@ed up.

Well I read they did, but their daughter ran off and stayed at her girlfriends place then they decided to get the police involved

 

[civ_king]

Everything I see has 18 & 14 as the age at sex, including notable right wing rags like Slate.

 

[Formaldehyde]

It has already been pointed out numerous times it was no such thing. Just because a few columnists couched it that way doesn't make it true. One was apparently a senior and one was apparently a sophomore.

Didn't seniors and sophomores occasionally date in your own high school? Did anybody make a big deal out of it?