My game on Immortal III - Ramesses II

[Deity player]

1400 AD - 1665 AD

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With representation and caste system, my research was VERY fast. I simply farmed every tile without hill (or resource) and built windmills on all hills later. Biology was my priority number 1.

I met the AIs on the other continent. The strong ones are Ghandi and Hammurabi (each of them has one vassal and Ghandi has 17 cities). Their research was also very fast. Moreover, Ghandi researched mass media, built most of those cultural wonders and started to go for the cultural victory. With all those wonders, he could be there in no time. So now, I have to do something about it. What is the best solution? Razing his cultural cities with tanks? Use ICBMs? Something else?

What victory condition should I go for? I would like to try space for once if I can hold Ghandi and Hammurabi back. What do you think?

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[Deity player]

VICTORY: 1665 - 1914 AD

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OMG, Ghandi was so stupid in this game! He let himself bribe to revolt from free speech to nationalism five times (!) and each time stopped building culture for a short time after that. So instead of razing his cultural cities, I checked the victory screen every turn and lazily went for the space victory . I targetted computers for internet, the rest was easy. Surprisengly, I traded only for ~4 cheap techs during the whole game. (Sure, this is due to my mistake - I should have research alphabet instead of mathematics ages ago.) Still, the specialists economy worked wonderfully well .

Some screenshots from the end:

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[Grashopa]

Haha seriously? (re: Ghandi)

 

[Knightly_]

Congratulations !

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What happened to Shaka? Mr. Warmonger himself vassaling to Ghandi is something you dont see very often i guess

Knightly_

 

[Deity player]

Nice that you were actually able to see horses before the scouting unit got killed....

Edit: If there's one thing that really grates on me in civ iv, it's that units will suicide without being given orders to do so; players should NOT be punished for using in-game features like waypoints and worker automation by having those things DELIBERATELY MOVE UNITS ADJACENT TO ENEMY UNITS IN PLAIN SIGHT.

Ever.

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Ick to the second on this map. Very painful. Getting my exploring unit killed, never saw horse. Axe rushed alex but it seems like his build order was something like CITY ----> CITY ----> CITY ----> CITY ----> CITY ----> CITY ----> CITY ----> CITY ----> go! I eventually kicked him into the tundra and skirting strike took techs for peace.

Then mao declared on me. I was ready, even used a FORT on him. Paid me for peace.

Then he declares again.

And again.

And another time.

Only hope here was spy spam. Stole from china + traded stolen when I could. This actually vaulted me ahead of him and #2 tech power in the world with around #1 land! Slogging through a cannon + rifle vs cannon + musket (he has muskets) war now, should be able to win the map, possibly even with diplo since ham, gandhi, etc like me. Culture is a danger but I can't see losing despite ham being handed a stupid amount of land (he captured 2 cities and had 20% land pre-shaka vassaling to him :/).

Edit again: Yeah, swept China away. Ham had ~24% land with shaka capped, but I had about 38%. Gandhi was going culture but didn't even break 30k on city #3 when I got industrialism/combustion. Had to transition over to traditional research but with factories/power and that much land wasn't hard to do. If gandhi wasn't pushing culture I'd have probably played out space; as it stands I don't really feel like slogging a bajillion tanks over there to take down his rifles, because by then hammurabi will be near launch and i'll have to either nuke him to death or just cap toku + take UN. Either way, this one's over.

Wow, you had it much more difficult than me since

a) you had to rush with axes instead of war chariots,
b) Mao probably declared on you much earlier than on me. (You said that you were prepared, even with a fort. But I was prepared even with a counterattacking stack .)

 

[Deity player]

Heyho,
mhh nobody played the no-rush road except me?

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I settled 6 ok-ish cities and founded confucianism. With both Alex and Mao converting and a srhine + great lib i got a decent research rate. I made my way to cuirassiers whipping away my cottages and invaded Alex. In retrospect i did a horrible job in specializing my cities but the research of my two fellows were so bad i had no doubt they would be backwards when my horse army is there. Mao happily settled the nothern island and i planned to get every of his cities on my island and then cap him. However a very funny event occured. When Mao had ONE city left on my island with 15 cuirassiers in front he assigned his island independence and Ragnar made it into the game. What the... next turn i got Maos last city and he was dead... pretty smart way to lead your civilization into extinction . Anyway i capped Ragnar soon after and this is where i stand now:

Hammu is the only one with a decent techrate. He has the buddism shrine and colossus but only 6 cities. Shaka (13 cities) + vassal Ghandi (8 cities) are so backwards they wont be a threat. I consider the game won, i just have to decide how to mop up the rest. Never tried a carrier/fighter/marine naval invasion so i think this is what i do.

Greetings Knightly_

My endgame:

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It ended up in a 1921 space race victory. During my industrial buildup Shaka attacked and capped both Toku and Hammu so it was me + 2 vassals against Shaka + 3 vassals. I wasnt in a mood to fight against 40 cities so i just built some navals defense. Shaka dowed two times, first one was defended with destroyers against galleons. In the second attempt he was able to sneak a small stack to my continent which basically was his infantry vs my artillery and modern armor. Anyway a funny game.

Knightly_

Nicely played. I didn't consider founding a religion to befriend the AIs.

 

[Deity player]

Heres my 1AD

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I went AH-mining-BW pigs-gems-corn chop 2nd worker then settlers. Saw 4 good hammer sites and decided on a late WC rush. Went straight to priesthood put a hammer in the oracle to hopefully delay it being taken. Ended up getting oracle - CoL the turn before this screenshot. The backup plan was to bulb Theology to get the AP and a religion on the continent. Waited until now to settle the two eastern sites otherwise I'd have never gotten writing in as the only commerce is coming from the capital.

Theology went at 300 BC, so I bulbed it anyway and rushed the AP in the capital from 250 BC. Just picked up the AP and am spamming temples/monasteries. I'll switch to caste next time I play because I'm now in Rep after taking the pyramids from China - should be a pretty good bpt at that time and I just whipped a galley to go finish off China's last city.

China got screwed with this start, capital was bad and I have no idea what he was doing all this time because he only had 4 cities at pop 5 each no happy no metals. Even with stone the pyramids had to have taken quite awhile with the capital hammers.

If you can grow to happy limit and bulb astronomy your beakers will take off after meeting the other continent.

Heres my 1100 AD

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Settling those 4 ~15 hammer sites first before the war made a big difference + china build pyramids + oracle CoL and bulb Theology nets me +4 hammers,gold and research in every city. Astronomy and meeting the other continent doubles the beakers from trade and observatories (+25% and a third rep scientist).

Wow, you conquered your continent so early! It looks like you did it much beter than me.

 

[Grashopa]

Look at those 4 hammer cities in my 950 BC. Thats going to be 4 chariots every other turn shortly + all the chops. I saw those 4 cities around 3400 BC and already had the plan.