Or it could be that you are just simply regurgitating the same old vomit that christians ususally get from the athiest end of the stick.
Let's see: if someone voices an opinion differing from yours it is either bla bla or vomit.
You use strawmen continuously, and you reply put of context and in one-liners. Why do I get the feeling that the atheist end of the stick is winning the debate?
And whats so bad about my behavior? Oh, excuse me, I felt sorry for an atheist. How shameful.
Not quite, and I call this a pretty neat attempt at a strawman. But what's bad about your behavior is
a) the arrogant attitude with which you preach your beliefs
b) the 'I am better than you, because I am a Christian' attitude that sweeps and drips from your every post (which, btw, I extremely widepread among those Christians I was talking about)
c) your arrogant dismissal of all other Christians as not-really-Christian
d) your condescending attitude towards other people's opinions.
Hybris to the max, here - you decide, based on at most a few posts on CFC, whether someone is a real Christian or not! Hey, man, that's, like, you know, like you're Jesus or sumpin!
Sorry, but how so you expect anyone to take you seriously if you run around as if you were God or His son?
Not my whine bro. The whining in this thread started when I said I felt sorry for an athiest.
Nope, the whining started when you were contradicted.
Actually, I have examined the issue, several times in fact. What should a Christian feel for a lost soul that rejects God? Think about it. Or perhaps you are so removed from the christian mindset and ethos that you have no empathy what-so-ever for your fellow man?
Actually, you were the one to constantly post
and similar stuff, which does not really speak for empathy. And that is not really the issue I was referring to, as you should well know - why are you not addressing the issue?
Hint: the issue being that you CLAIM to feel sorry, but immediately show utter unconcern over a very similar issue. Seems to me that you do not feel sorry at all, but rather bask in your superiority as a Christian.
No, I said that I would defend myself if assaulted in a bar.
Another strawman :sigh:
You said you 'care' about the poor atheists, but you do not care at all when people feel put off by your attitude and behavior. That has nothing to do with the self defense issue, which we were not debating at all.
Btw, this brings one thing to my mind: you have failed to say even one little tiny positive thing about anyone you consider un-Christian in this entire thread. Why? Are you unable to see anything positive in them?
I wouldnt want to wish hell upon my worst enemy, if that is what you are asking.
Not at all!
I am asking whether you really feel sorry, or whether you force yourself to some pity because it would be very un-Christian to do otherwise.
What switching on and off are you referring to here? Do I want to see athiests in hell? No. Do I have endless patience to put up with their crap? Not really.
Nice polarizing attempt here. But that is not at all what I meant. Rather, you do it again: Your instant dismissal of anything anyone says here that is not fully on your line as 'crap' - that's arrogant, and that's unbecoming a Christian. The bible gives several examples where Jesus refused to treat people the way you do, and deliberately reached out to them in a friendly manner even if they insulted him intentionally (which I was not trying to do).
You see where you make your mistake is you assume that all christians fit into some cookie cutter image you have of what a christian should be. Thats not realistic. There was only ever one perfect man: Jesus. Everyone else (i.e. christians) try to fit into that mold, albeit imperfectly.
I do not see you try, to be honest.
That aside, I see only ONE mold to fit into: Jesus. And I see quite many who refuse the teachings of Jesus, but still call themselves Christians. Many of them behave the way I described, and it is those I am talking about.
Then you dont understand hiim at all. Removing God and Jesus' own divinity from his message merely results in an imperfect (i.e. worldly) understanding of his message.
Please explain how worldy=imperfect. You should know that as opposed to laypeople like you, most studied theologians agree with me that Jesus messages can be interpreted in a purely historical context. And that they do form a codex for behavior even if one does not believe(!) the mystical parts of the bible.
That viewpoint is insufficient in understanding his message.
Sorry, I tend to believe studied theologians and my own rational mind more than your unsupported statements.
No, actually you greatly misrepresent me. One, you dont know me, you know nothing about me.
False, I know your posts on CFC.
You most certainly dont know my heart or my spirit.
False - while I do not know them in great detail, your posts here have given me a by now quite detailed insight. Obviously, you may play a role here, which I would dub the 'label-Christian macho', but as your posts are the only data I have about you they are all I can use to understand your mind, heart and soul.
And here is how so far out of touch you are: Ask yourself honestly: Who would feel sorry for people going to hell? Jesus or the Pharisees? Obviously Jesus. Thus me stating I feel sorry in that very same manner puts me in his camp, not the pharisees. Your labeling is simply incorrect and is just more of atypical atheist finger waving.
more black and white logic, more fallacies.
While I still doubt that you really feel sorry for atheists for the reason Jesus would feel sorry for them, let's assume you do. That does not make you a Christian, as there is way more to being a Christian than feeling sorry for people.
To sum up, you have again posted a rant that sounds to me quite un-Christian compared to what the bible tells me about Jesus. You have made a pretty weird claim that reading old texts in their historical context without believing in some mystical part of the story makes any interpretation invalid. So let me ask you: can one read Maya creation stories or Babylonian myths and understand them correctly in their historical context without believing them? Ir is that impossible?
