Northen Wolf
Young Hunter
Are you, sure that it works???
Myth01- Training Day- Regent
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CommandoBob
AbstractArt
lurker's comment: Could we lurkers get a roster?
Roster:
Northen Wolf - just played
CommandoBob - UP!
ngraner42 - on deck
Yahya - warming up
I'm up, and if darski has gotten her C3C disk I'll let her follow after me.
darski
Regent in Training
I am still waiting but it should be no later than tomorrow. My son was supposed to mail it on Monday so today should be it.
if he decided to bring it down, it will be tomorrow <<< sigh>>>
i hate to be a bother and keep pestering him about this so I am trying to be patient. i understand God likes patient people so I am hoping to gain brownie points all round... yeah, sure, right! :lol
if he decided to bring it down, it will be tomorrow <<< sigh>>>
i hate to be a bother and keep pestering him about this so I am trying to be patient. i understand God likes patient people so I am hoping to gain brownie points all round... yeah, sure, right! :lol
Northen Wolf
Young Hunter
O, i got civ 3 working on this computer, so I'm back in action!
CommandoBob
AbstractArt
Just tell your son that people on both sides of the Atlantic Ocean are waiting on him to get that disk to you. (Texas and Estonia, at least.)I am still waiting but it should be no later than tomorrow. My son was supposed to mail it on Monday so today should be it.
if he decided to bring it down, it will be tomorrow <<< sigh>>>
i hate to be a bother and keep pestering him about this so I am trying to be patient. i understand God likes patient people so I am hoping to gain brownie points all round... yeah, sure, right!
Yahya
Warlord
darski
Regent in Training
The world awaits... I figure about 2 hours my time... but who's counting.
it's about 11 am and our mail comes usually at about 1 pm.
it's about 11 am and our mail comes usually at about 1 pm.
Northen Wolf
Young Hunter
The world awaits... I figure about 2 hours my time... but who's counting.
it's about 11 am and our mail comes usually at about 1 pm.
You are waiting for mail, I assume. I sure hope it will not be late, as I'd hate to read: 'Mailman hurt badly by customer due late delivery of civilization III conquest disk'
darski
Regent in Training
Well. mail delivery now seems unlikely but parcel delivery may yet be possible. If I don't have it by tonight, Monday will be as soon as it can get here...
sorry guys. it takes as long as it takes <<<sigh>>>
Edit: I forgot that we have a Statutory holiday on Monday so nothing until Tuesday now. Sorry, I can come up later in the roster if it gets here then. I hate snail mail!
sorry guys. it takes as long as it takes <<<sigh>>>
Edit: I forgot that we have a Statutory holiday on Monday so nothing until Tuesday now. Sorry, I can come up later in the roster if it gets here then. I hate snail mail!
darski
Regent in Training
Quick question...
I have Empress Wu as my leader for China, will this be a problem for saves and such.
I changed most of her labels so she reads as Mao in most pcx and flcs. I did change the entry for China in the game set up to show this new leader... any probs likely?
When I get the new game, I will have the old China when I start but just thinking of later on.
I have Empress Wu as my leader for China, will this be a problem for saves and such.
I changed most of her labels so she reads as Mao in most pcx and flcs. I did change the entry for China in the game set up to show this new leader... any probs likely?
When I get the new game, I will have the old China when I start but just thinking of later on.
CommandoBob
AbstractArt
Construction in 11
269 gold, +3 gpt
Despotism
City Builds:
Beijing (7): settler in 2, grows in 2.
Delhi (4): courthouse in 30, grows in 6.
Shanghai (3): vSword in 11, grows in 2.
Canton (3): worker in 3, grows in 3.
Nanking (5): settler in 1, grows in 7.
Bangalore (1) worker in 3, grows in 4.
Tsingtao (4): vSword in 1, grows in 9.
Tatung (1): rSpear in 17, grows in 7.
Irony (2): barracks in 4, grows in 5.
Hangchow (1): worker in 10, grows in 10.
Xinjian (3): courthouse in 58, grows in 8.
GrapeVille (1): worker in 4, grows in 4.
City Production;
settler [2] (Beijing and Nanking)
Courthouse [2] (Delhi and Xingian)
vSword [2] (Shanghai and Tsingtao)
worker [4] (Canton, Bangalore, Hangchow and GrapeVille)
rSpear [1] (Tatung)
Barracks [1] (Irony)
Military:
08 Workers
04 Warrior
21 Archers
03 Spears
06 Swords
01 Curragh
Allowed Units: 44
Total Units: 48
Unit Support: 0 gpt
Available leader: K'uang-yin
Resources connected to Beijing
01 Silks
01 Wines
01 Iron
01 Horse
Wonder Races
Oracle
We need to do two things: get ready for the upcoming Zulu war and get our economy moving forward.
Irony Area 350 BC
Irony is well defended. Four units are inside the city and one on each mountain beside the city; a nice wall of defense. We have two Zulu units south of that line. They show no signs of leaving and until they do we won't open the Line of Irony.
Until the Zulus run out of land to settle they will leave us alone (mostly). So we have some time before they get ready for war. We need to use that time wisely.
We should plan to build two cities north of Irony in the near future. This will let us claim the land bridge between us and Zulu for ourselves. We won't have to fight our way north. And it brings us closer to the Zulu, which in turn means our wounded would have a place to heal.
Light Blue and Pink are the two city sites we would need to settle. The brownish-orange lines are the roads we need to build. It won't do us any good to plant cities near the Zulu if we cannot get there quickly.
Beijing will complete a settler in 2 turns. I think it should head towards the Light Blue dot. We have plenty of escorts in Irony.
Revolting to Republic
We have 12 cities. One is size 7, one is size 5, two are size 4 and three are size 3.
In Republic the city support is different from Despotism. It is more expensive. Currently, we have 12 cities and we can support 48 units; 4 per city, regardless of city size. In Republic, we could support only 14 units. Cities that are at size 6 or less only support one unit. Cities between 7 and 12 support 3 units. Larger cities support 4 units per turn. We would have to pay unit support on the excess units; 2 gold per unit. We have 44 units; 14 would be supported; unit support on 30 units is 60 gold per turn. We have 269 gold right now.
However, in Republic units in cities do not contribute anything towards keeping the city productive. We could disband units that are serving as MPs, starting with Warriors and then Archers. Disbanding a unit in a city will also contribute shields to whatever the city is building, except Wonders. Great Wonders cannot be built with any 'rushed' shields; I'm not sure about small wonders. That could reduce our military by about 12 units or 24 gold per turn in upkeep, bringing our per turn costs down to 36 gold per turn. Still expensive but we don't die as fast.
Once in Republic we generate more commerce, which in turn means more gold flowing into the treasury, especially as our cities grow, which they can do faster in Republic than Despotism.
So I think we need to get into Republic as quick as we can.
Once we decide to revolt, we will face some turns of Anarchy. Our cities will produce nothing on those turns, so we need to pay attention to our builds and try to time the start of our revolution wisely.
In the next two turns we have two settlers completing and we don't want to slow that down any at all. So until they get built we stay Despotic. During Anarchy we pay no upkeep anywhere, so we can move units into cities to disband once we finish the anarchy.
We also need more cities in Old India. We can change Delhi from courthouse to settler and have it complete in 5 turns. We only need 9 shields to complete the settler and the most shields we can net in Delhi is 2. We could pop-rush the settler but that seems like overkill. Xinjian is building a courthouse in 58; it could do a settler in 8.
I think we should revolt after Beijing completes it's settler in 2 turns. We can change the builds in Xinjiana and Delhi to settlers and let them complete once we get into Republic.
We can still plant cities, improve roads and research while in Anarchy.
We also have a Military Great Leader, K'uang-yin. We need to build an Army around him.
Long Term Goals
Conquer the world.
Mid Range Goals
Subdue our continent, which means killing Zulus.
Build more cities in Old India.
Short Range Goals
Build our Sword Army.
Delhi and Xinjian make settlers.
Begin our revolution after Beijing builds a settler.
Build two cities to expand us northwards across the land bridge that is between us and the Zulu.
Balance our economy after we get into Republic.
269 gold, +3 gpt
Despotism
City Builds:
Beijing (7): settler in 2, grows in 2.
Delhi (4): courthouse in 30, grows in 6.
Shanghai (3): vSword in 11, grows in 2.
Canton (3): worker in 3, grows in 3.
Nanking (5): settler in 1, grows in 7.
Bangalore (1) worker in 3, grows in 4.
Tsingtao (4): vSword in 1, grows in 9.
Tatung (1): rSpear in 17, grows in 7.
Irony (2): barracks in 4, grows in 5.
Hangchow (1): worker in 10, grows in 10.
Xinjian (3): courthouse in 58, grows in 8.
GrapeVille (1): worker in 4, grows in 4.
City Production;
settler [2] (Beijing and Nanking)
Courthouse [2] (Delhi and Xingian)
vSword [2] (Shanghai and Tsingtao)
worker [4] (Canton, Bangalore, Hangchow and GrapeVille)
rSpear [1] (Tatung)
Barracks [1] (Irony)
Military:
08 Workers
04 Warrior
21 Archers
03 Spears
06 Swords
01 Curragh
Allowed Units: 44
Total Units: 48
Unit Support: 0 gpt
Available leader: K'uang-yin
Resources connected to Beijing
01 Silks
01 Wines
01 Iron
01 Horse
Wonder Races
Oracle
- Zimbabwe - Zulu
We need to do two things: get ready for the upcoming Zulu war and get our economy moving forward.
Irony Area 350 BC
Irony is well defended. Four units are inside the city and one on each mountain beside the city; a nice wall of defense. We have two Zulu units south of that line. They show no signs of leaving and until they do we won't open the Line of Irony.
Until the Zulus run out of land to settle they will leave us alone (mostly). So we have some time before they get ready for war. We need to use that time wisely.
We should plan to build two cities north of Irony in the near future. This will let us claim the land bridge between us and Zulu for ourselves. We won't have to fight our way north. And it brings us closer to the Zulu, which in turn means our wounded would have a place to heal.
Light Blue and Pink are the two city sites we would need to settle. The brownish-orange lines are the roads we need to build. It won't do us any good to plant cities near the Zulu if we cannot get there quickly.
Beijing will complete a settler in 2 turns. I think it should head towards the Light Blue dot. We have plenty of escorts in Irony.
Revolting to Republic
We have 12 cities. One is size 7, one is size 5, two are size 4 and three are size 3.
In Republic the city support is different from Despotism. It is more expensive. Currently, we have 12 cities and we can support 48 units; 4 per city, regardless of city size. In Republic, we could support only 14 units. Cities that are at size 6 or less only support one unit. Cities between 7 and 12 support 3 units. Larger cities support 4 units per turn. We would have to pay unit support on the excess units; 2 gold per unit. We have 44 units; 14 would be supported; unit support on 30 units is 60 gold per turn. We have 269 gold right now.
However, in Republic units in cities do not contribute anything towards keeping the city productive. We could disband units that are serving as MPs, starting with Warriors and then Archers. Disbanding a unit in a city will also contribute shields to whatever the city is building, except Wonders. Great Wonders cannot be built with any 'rushed' shields; I'm not sure about small wonders. That could reduce our military by about 12 units or 24 gold per turn in upkeep, bringing our per turn costs down to 36 gold per turn. Still expensive but we don't die as fast.
Once in Republic we generate more commerce, which in turn means more gold flowing into the treasury, especially as our cities grow, which they can do faster in Republic than Despotism.
So I think we need to get into Republic as quick as we can.
Once we decide to revolt, we will face some turns of Anarchy. Our cities will produce nothing on those turns, so we need to pay attention to our builds and try to time the start of our revolution wisely.
In the next two turns we have two settlers completing and we don't want to slow that down any at all. So until they get built we stay Despotic. During Anarchy we pay no upkeep anywhere, so we can move units into cities to disband once we finish the anarchy.
We also need more cities in Old India. We can change Delhi from courthouse to settler and have it complete in 5 turns. We only need 9 shields to complete the settler and the most shields we can net in Delhi is 2. We could pop-rush the settler but that seems like overkill. Xinjian is building a courthouse in 58; it could do a settler in 8.
I think we should revolt after Beijing completes it's settler in 2 turns. We can change the builds in Xinjiana and Delhi to settlers and let them complete once we get into Republic.
We can still plant cities, improve roads and research while in Anarchy.
We also have a Military Great Leader, K'uang-yin. We need to build an Army around him.
Long Term Goals
Conquer the world.
Mid Range Goals
Subdue our continent, which means killing Zulus.
Build more cities in Old India.
Short Range Goals
Build our Sword Army.
Delhi and Xinjian make settlers.
Begin our revolution after Beijing builds a settler.
Build two cities to expand us northwards across the land bridge that is between us and the Zulu.
Balance our economy after we get into Republic.
Northen Wolf
Young Hunter
BTW, my conquest version (now after tons of reinstalling, deinstalling, patching and screaming). shows current version as 1.22. B4 i wrecked my laptop, laptop showed 1.22f for version, will I be able to save games and put them here? I can load your saved games...
EDIT: Altho, now as I think about there is no 1.22f version???
EDIT: Altho, now as I think about there is no 1.22f version???
Yahya
Warlord
CBob, that is a very well thought-out plan. I like it very much.
darski
Regent in Training
I am now officially ready to
Go Postal !!!
Go Postal !!!Nothing yet today...
Yahya
Warlord
I'm not sure you can go postal, unless you actually work for the postal service. 
Northen Wolf
Young Hunter
I'm not sure you can go postal, unless you actually work for the postal service.
If you do, then you already are postal...
(just had to post it)
CommandoBob
AbstractArt
I got the turns played: we are in Republic and doing okay. We are still at peace with Zulu and have built two more cities; Light Blue Dot and one in Old India.
We still have a lot of military, which we need both in Old India (barbarians) and up north to deal with Mongols. Disbanding has been slower than I thought.
I'll post the save, turnlog and handoff later today.
We still have a lot of military, which we need both in Old India (barbarians) and up north to deal with Mongols. Disbanding has been slower than I thought.
I'll post the save, turnlog and handoff later today.
Mongols?
How bad out of touch have I been??? I don't recall seeing anything about them before. Where are they?Similar threads
