NCSG IV Redux - The Mummy Strikes Back

Heh, I opened up the game and just hit enter a few times til all the revolts in Jaoa were gone, and it looks like Pac Man eating a red ghosty-guy, LOL.

Anyway, I had some more thoughts on civics. It may be time to trim some units, rather than pay for upgrades. I did upgrade a few of our more key guys, and we will have a company of strong CR rifles when the time comes, but we do have some CR I axes and Combat I Crossbows that could be deleted eventually, so Pacifism wont be as expensive. But I agree we arent ready for Paci right now, lets get some mileage out of OR for fast Islam buildings for hammers, etc. We may even want to shift into Islam, if we can time the next AP resident vote. No one is running it, though, so we would want to stay in Buddhism until we actually capture the AP city, heh.
 
I think we should stay in Bud till we've dispenced with Toku. When we're in contact with Fred and the Islamic block its time to switch and then hit Asoka. This way we keep a friend till we are ready to deal with some new friends.

With our good military cities I don't see the point in upgrading most of our units apart from our CR units.
 
1305AD (281):

Preflight check. Bleys left me an enormous bank to play with, but it's bleeding away in deficit spending. I recognize that if we don't spend the cash though, some stupid AI will try and extort it from us or ask for a gift. We have a lot of highly promoted older units, so I'm going to upgrade some of them.

Ok, after looking around, I only ended up upgrading 2 units (our Combat 4 Chariot and a CR3 Swordsman, renamed to Bigman Gus), as the rest are fairly basic troops. I am tempted to remove espionage spending, but we need it. The deficit is bad, but I'll deal with the specs first...

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Thebes is running a spy, an engineer, and 2 scientists while rushing Taj. We are working 0/4 mines at Thebes. I work the 3 plains hills and a riverside farm to get some growth in here.

Memphis is running specs, but that is OK, because that is the plan in this place. However, we are trying to build a treb here. It's almost done, so best to let it finish, but this town only has 3 natural hammers, so we really needed to be cranking the infrastructure here. We are also growing too slowly, so I reluctantly fire the scientists to work farms. I also note that we never built any Islamic buildings here. That is free hammers we are missing out on from buildings that would benefit a science city.

Helio fires a scientist to run a farm instead.

I can't really wrap my head around Elephantine. It currently has enough food to work every square in its BFC except the hill, while stagnating. It also has a pile of cottages. Due to this observation, I fire its specs to work tiles instead.

Alexandria was aforementioned with working no mines and scientists instead. Fix that, now that the Lib race is over.

Pi-Ram is running no specs, but its getting attacked by all manner of nasties and building a Treb! Switch to a Longbow.

Giza is not a good town at all, but we'll work with it. It's stealing a farm that Alexandria could be using while not working the Iron, so I fix that for quicker build times.

Ainu is ok for now. Race to replaceable parts and bio to get this place online. Work the silk plantations in the meantime.

Gem-city fires its scientists to work the two mines. I contemplate working the 3rd mine instead of a cottage, but that makes it so we don't grow next turn, so I leave it for now.

Lisbon is in massive growth mode, but more work is needed here. I disagree that this place is a commerce town. Sure it has some food, but it has hills and a river, which we can place 4 watermills on if we are careful, 5 if we destroy the incense plantation (which I don't recommend, as that appears to be the world's only source of known incense). And Joao also destroyed all the cottages while we didn't have control of the BFC. I'll drop signs in the order the mills should be built to ensure no whackiness in AI placement. I'll lay down the signs assuming we demolish the incense, but feel free to ignore that.

Lagos is a worthless city and I don't know why we kept it. The place has 3 workable land tiles after we assign all other tiles to worthy city. Worst of all, it doesn't have any resources! So it's a perennial live off the water city while slowly building commerce improvements. To add insult to injury, we are paying 9gpt for this scrapyard, as there is no courthouse.

Evora and Coimbra are not worth talking about yet, as they need to get out of revolt and pop some borders. But at least their courthouses survived the taking of the city.



Oh, BTW, I note that Joao recently vassaled to Toku.


Ok, so Gunpowder in 6, bleeding 109 gpt at 60% sci and 10% esp. 1909 gold left in the bank... Well, we kinda need the EPs... However, we don't need them on Toku, so I set his weight to 0. I will leave the sliders until some of the cash has burned away, since our tech rate isn't great without the specs, and I'm not willing to bulk up on specs while our cities are at around half their maximum size.

1310AD (282):

Pi-Ram gets bombed some more, and Mansa got the random event where he gets one of our fugitives. He clearly took it as he is now pleased with us.

Charged some units at Toku's stack on the flatlands, killed the entire stack except 1 axeman at the cost of a C2 HA and a C1 Axeman.

Retreat the units inside Japan, as Toku has a crossbowman, and the units are unsupported Maces. The guy has exactly 1 source of iron and no other visible metals, so we may want to take that down quickly.

Lagos finished the Obs, start a courthouse for this miserable city.

Evora also finished the Obs, dial an Islamic temple, stagnant and work the iron to finish in 9 turns. Border pop in 7 to grab the clams so meh.

1315AD (283):

Toku suicided his Crossbowman on the 2 maces. Someone had the foresight to give one of them Cover, thank god. We beat the odds there. Due to that rather close call, we flee back into our territory, taking the stolen worker with us.

Toku's axe, instead of retreating, ran towards Pi-Ram and the other stack. We have a 9/10 XP HA that won against the odds last turn, 2.2 strength left vs a 0.8 strength axe. Now up to 11XP for the promo. Move him into Pi-Ram and buyout the knight promotion.

A HA also appeared unsupported by Giza, so it gets run down by a knight. The rest of the units get to Pi-Ram.

Helio finished an Islamic Monastery and dials a knight. I rearrange the tiles to slow growth a bit, as we are in need of buildings here.

I can do a civics swap, so I put us into Merc and OR. I contemplated keeping Theo for the XP boost, but we need the production boost more, as less XP can be made up with better tactics. This results in a runaround to the cities to reassign specs. I mostly hire priests, but some scientists where they are needed.

Oporto is down to 54%. Stupid castle. Oh, it looks like Joao burned his General attaching it to a Longbowman. Damn, was hoping to get a free instructor.

1320AD (284):

Oporto down to 32%...

We got a Great Scientist. I know we didn't discuss it much, but I'm settling him in Thebes, as we have an Academy there already, and science everywhere else sucks. (I eventually figure out this is major smoke)

The chop finished at Memphis this turn, so I flip to a temple to put it in there and finish it in 2 turns.

1325AD (285):

In a startling turn of events, Toku does NOT bomb Pi-Ram this turn. He instead crosses the river in an attempt to meet up with a big stack of siege that came into our territory this turn.

Oh well, first things first. I bombard Oporto to 2%. We're going in next turn.

Ok, let's sort out these fools at Pi-Ram.

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The top stack has almost no proper defenders (a CG Longbow??? and a Sword???). It gets eaten by miscellaneous horse units, and all the cats die to flank attacks.

The leaves... uh... almost nothing for me to attack the bottom stack with. I punk off an Axeman, but I don't have enough units left to take on the 3 HAs and the 2 cats. Hopefully they hang around or try to kill the last knight who took out the top stack.

Coimbra is out of revolt and gets whipped to do the Obs.

Knight finished in Alex, and I already sent him up. Dial for a Treb for a stack to be assembled at Memphis.

1330AD (286):

As predicted, the knight died and the stack kept running. That's fine.

We also got collateraled by a cat at Oporto. Doesn't really change anything though...

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MT in 12.

Optorto gets zeroed by a Cat. Let's go.

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Treb 1 dies but does good. Treb 2 has an 81% chance against the GG and withdraws. Treb 3 takes 90% and gets away too.

I contemplate throwing more Trebs, but what's the point, as they will have to heal, and they are needed to bombard first.

The maces go 5 for 5, with the 3rd one earning the CR3 promo FLAWLESS. He gets "promoted" to Bigman Dobbs.

Oh, you guys are going to hate me for this, but...

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FLAWLESS Great General battle :p.

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Sorry, I can't resist epic fights :p.

With Oporto dealt with, let's turn our attention back to Toku, who's stack on the hill is still running. I attack it with Knights and decimate the catapults again. They don't die however, and become free XP for our units garrisoning Pi-Ram.

All of Toku's units in our territory are now dead. I MAY, however, have blundered, as I moved the X-bow guarding Giza's iron, so Toku can pillage it next turn. His HA will be dead upon doing so though, and we have another Iron from Joao's land.

Oh, we got Oliver Cromwell in Memphis btw. With all our major production centers already having a Military Instructor, I would save him for a Military Academy, which is close, giving us a mini-HE/WP in another city.

Treb finished in Ainu... why did we build a Treb here? It'll take forever to get to the front. I dial for a university, as this city can be spared to build one for Oxford.

Lisbon finished an Islamic Temple, but I'm now hard pressed to decide what it needs. It doesn't really need anything pressing... but I don't want to build more units here while we are running OR and this place still needs buildings. We are set to run into a happy problem so I dial a Theatre.

Coimbra Obs was whipped, and it starts an Islamic Temple.

Oporto's courthouse survived the sack, along with a forge, aqueduct, and market. And we got a free academy out of it too. Thanks Joao! Dial up an granary, because that didn't survive.

I dial science down to 40%, as we are losing money fast now. Taj in 3 to alleviate that.

1335AD (287):

As expected, our iron gets pillaged. Mansa also builds the Islamic special building.

Ok, well the pillaging HA gets run down with a knight, end of story.

A stack is forming near Memphis of assorted units. The Treb also finished there, so start a Monastery. We need all the hammers we can get here.

This turn is otherwise unexciting, as we move towards Joao's final city.

I notice that Fred went into WHEOOH mode. I don't think he's foolish enough to attack us, but that may mean he is getting ready to grab some of Toku's land. Or he could be gearing up against Sury. Who knows.

1340AD (288):

Moving the stack next to the city shows 50% defenses, and 3 longbows in the city. 2 are CG1, while one is unpromoted. There is also a galley and a stack of workers.

A Treb finished in Giza, lets dial another.

1345AD (289):

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15 turns of GA, yum...


Gotta save the game and run for a bit...


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Ok, Joao whipped another longbow and promoted the unpromoted one to C1/Shock. Defenses in Braga are leveled in 1 turn by the siege, but we have none left to sacrifice. That's ok, though, because Bigman Dobbs has 85% chance and pastes the top Longbow.

Next up is Bigman Brent with 71% odds. But you don't mess with Bigmen, as he kills the next Longbow. Shock Longbow is next, and a CR2 Mace has 65% odds, but still wins. Yay.

Last defender is the new unpromoted Longbow. With no fortify bonus yet either. Unfortunately, we LOSE a 74% odds there. Meh, had to roll bad at least once. Followup Maceman takes his XP to 10/10 for the Bigman promo next turn, and cleans up Braga, and Joao. We win 5 workers and sink a Galley.

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Another Toku mini stack consisting of one Crossbow, one HA, and 2 cats appears next to Pi-Ram. I'm starting to feel bad for Toku, in that he has no Pikes to stop our knights, and we wipe out his mini stack. Again. Free XP for our units.

Thebes done Taj, and I drool over the 7 turn Sistine, but restrain myself. This city needs a University. Yesterday. At this point I realize I :smoke:ed bad when I put the scientist in Thebes. Because Oxford is going into Memphis. Doh!

Helio finished a Knight, and I realize I :smoke:ed AGAIN as there was no stable here O.o. Arg, ok it is far from battle, so order a stable up now.

Pi-Ram finished a Longbow, and the 3rd :smoke: is the worst. I originally switched this to a Longbow from a Treb. The right answer however, was "none of the above", as this city doesn't even have a barracks! Ok, well order one up. I am tempted to do a castle, as Toku likes attacking here, but seeing as we haven't let him actually attack the city tile yet, it would be a waste.

Lisbon finished a Theatre, dial a stable for some knights.

Evora finished a Temple so dial a monastery. We also got a border pop, so work the clams so we can grow.

Braga did not have a surviving courthouse, so dial one. Only thing we have in this city is a granary and a lighthouse.

1350AD (290):

Quiet turn. Nothing happens as I shift wounded units into cities to heal. A stack sets out for Tokyo as well. I don't anticipate any problems there, as the city is defended by 3 units, one of which is a Catapult. The other two are Protective Longbows though, so that could cause minor troubles. Nothing a quick shelling and a Bigman can't handle though.

Toku has Samurai now. My bad, I went a bit too slow with the warring and didn't get around to pillaging his iron yet. Knights still eat his Samurai though, what with being immune to first strikes and having no vulnerability...


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Lovely set as ever S.ilver.

I wondered who was the Bigman player....

After MT where are we heading? Up towards Rifling?

Sisten could be nice.... we could put up a good culture war if we have it.
 
It depends if we think we will finish with Toku before rifling would become useful (I assume we would). If so we are going to find ourselves alot of captured cities that need a kick in the infrastructure, so I would be tempted to prioritise non-war discoveries for now to get our civ running smoothly again
 
Groo hasn't posted for a week. I suggest we should skip him till we know if his computer is working properly.

This said I'll post a got it for the nest set.

Back on tech issues if we're not heading to rifling ASAP then maybe we hould head up deomcracy and nail the SoL. A great wonder on pangea maps.
 
Militarily, we're alright for now. Rifling would be great, as it always is. It depends on how fast we want to go to war again after we conquer Toku. If we go to war right away, rifles are almost essential, otherwise we will probably get bogged down. If we are planning on a wave of rebuilding though, we have other options.

Mansa is teching Constitution already, so that may be a problem. His tech rate is annoyingly good for having 4 cities. We could tech Chemistry and buy Astro from Asoka (although he is charging an arm and a leg), and then send Privateers to blockade Mansa. That would definitely slow his tech rate down, seeing as we can blockade half his cities. Chem gives us empowered workshops too.

The actual path to rifling gets us Printing Press and Replaceable Parts in the process, which would be extremely helpful for a rebuilding period. We'd also be able to get Lisbon running as a production kraftwerck. A rush to Steam Power is also a possibility to get Levees and supercharge Pi-Ram, Memphis, and Lisbon.

Constitution -> Democracy, while interesting, is expensive considering we have the Mids and get two of the three civics already. SoL is fairly interesting though...
 
Groo hasn't posted for a week. I suggest we should skip him till we know if his computer is working properly.

Sorry! Didn't realise my turn would come round so quickly! To be honest I think you'd better pull me from the roster as I keep letting you down every time my turn comes round :sad: and I'm still not in much of a position to play civ right now, my computer is fixed... my life however still needs some work ;)

Apologies
 
Sorry for the slow turn around.

Here goes.

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Logging by BUG Mod 3.0 [Build 1000] (BtS 3.13-3.17)
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Turn 290/750 (1350 AD) [20-Nov-2008 18:44:59]

After End Turn:
Heliopolis finishes: Stable
Alexandria grows to size 9
Alexandria finishes: Trebuchet
Guimarães finishes: Grocer
Lisbon finishes: Stable
Coimbra finishes: Islamic Temple

Other Player Actions:

Turn 291/750 (1355 AD) [20-Nov-2008 18:55:56]
A Mine was built near Thebes
A Farm was built near Elephantine
Heliopolis begins: Islamic Temple (2 turns)
Alexandria begins: Crossbowman (4 turns)
Alexandria begins: Knight (5 turns)
Alexandria begins: Trebuchet (5 turns)
Guimarães begins: Bank (9 turns)
Lisbon begins: Knight (5 turns)
Coimbra begins: Islamic Monastery (9 turns)

After End Turn:
Heliopolis grows to size 10
Heliopolis finishes: Islamic Temple
A Hamlet was built near Heliopolis

Other Player Actions:
Confucianism has spread: Elephantine

Turn 292/750 (1360 AD) [20-Nov-2008 19:05:17]
A Farm was built near Heliopolis
A Farm was built near Heliopolis
A Farm was built near Memphis
Heliopolis begins: Longbowman (2 turns)

After End Turn:
Thebes finishes: University
Memphis grows to size 12
Memphis finishes: Islamic Monastery
A Hamlet was built near Memphis
Coimbra's borders expand

Other Player Actions:

Turn 293/750 (1365 AD) [20-Nov-2008 19:09:21]
Thebes begins: Knight (2 turns)
Memphis begins: University (16 turns)
While attacking in Egyptian territory at Giza, Jim Sacia (Pikeman) (5.22/6) defeats Japanese Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 99.7%)

After End Turn:
Thebes grows to size 11
Thebes finishes: Knight
Heliopolis finishes: Longbowman
Pi-Ramesses finishes: Barracks
Ainu grows to size 8

Other Player Actions:
Confucianism has spread: Pi-Ramesses

Turn 294/750 (1370 AD) [20-Nov-2008 19:13:58]
Thebes begins: Grocer (3 turns)
Heliopolis begins: Longbowman (2 turns)
Pi-Ramesses begins: Islamic Mosque (18 turns)

After End Turn:
Elephantine finishes: Grocer
Alexandria finishes: Trebuchet
Lisbon grows to size 8
Évora finishes: Islamic Monastery

Other Player Actions:

Turn 295/750 (1375 AD) [20-Nov-2008 19:19:55]
A Farm was built near Coimbra
A Mine near Kyoto was destroyed by Egyptian Isoroku Yamamoto (War Chariot)
Knight promoted: Combat I
Knight promoted: Shock
While attacking in Egyptian territory near Lisbon, Knight loses to Japanese Samurai (6.48/8) (Prob Victory: 34.5%)
Elephantine begins: Bank (17 turns)
Alexandria begins: Buddhist Monastery (3 turns)
Évora begins: Grocer (13 turns)

After End Turn:
Heliopolis finishes: Longbowman
Elephantine grows to size 11
Giza finishes: Trebuchet
Lisbon finishes: Knight

Other Player Actions:
Attitude Change: Tokugawa(Japan) towards The Mummy Strikes Back(Egypt), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious'

Turn 296/750 (1380 AD) [20-Nov-2008 19:25:50]
A Road near Kyoto was destroyed by Egyptian Catapult
Knight promoted: Combat I
Knight promoted: Combat II
While attacking in Egyptian territory near Lisbon, Knight (8.00/10) defeats Japanese Samurai (Prob Victory: 55.4%)
Heliopolis begins: Longbowman (2 turns)
Giza begins: Islamic Temple (4 turns)
Lisbon begins: Knight (5 turns)

After End Turn:
Whip anger has decreased in Lagos
Whip anger has decreased in Évora
Thebes finishes: Grocer
Ainu finishes: University

Other Player Actions:
Confucianism has spread: Ainu
While defending in Egyptian territory near Osaka, Worker loses to Japanese Horse Archer (6.00/6) (Prob Victory: 36.3%)

Turn 297/750 (1385 AD) [20-Nov-2008 19:30:11]
A Cottage was built near Thebes
While attacking in Egyptian territory at Pi-Ramesses, Horse Archer (6.00/6) defeats Japanese Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 50.0%)
While attacking in Egyptian territory at Pi-Ramesses, Horse Archer (2.40/6) defeats Japanese Catapult (Prob Victory: 96.0%)
Trebuchet promoted: City Raider I
Trebuchet promoted: City Raider II
While attacking, Trebuchet escapes from Japanese Samurai (Prob Victory: 64.6%)
Trebuchet promoted: City Raider I
Trebuchet promoted: City Raider I
Trebuchet promoted: City Raider I
While attacking in Japanese territory at Tokyo, Trebuchet loses to Japanese Samurai (3.44/8) (Prob Victory: 45.0%)
While attacking, Trebuchet escapes from Japanese Samurai (Prob Victory: 63.2%)
While attacking, Trebuchet decimates Japanese Longbowman (Prob Victory: 71.5%)
While attacking, Trebuchet decimates Japanese Longbowman (Prob Victory: 68.2%)
While attacking in Japanese territory at Tokyo, Bigman Gus (Maceman) (6.72/8) defeats Japanese Crossbowman (Prob Victory: 97.6%)
While attacking in Japanese territory at Tokyo, Maceman (8.00/8) defeats Japanese Crossbowman (Prob Victory: 93.3%)
While attacking in Japanese territory at Tokyo, Maceman (6.64/8) defeats Japanese Samurai (Prob Victory: 98.2%)
While attacking in Japanese territory at Tokyo, Horse Archer (6.00/6) defeats Japanese Catapult (Prob Victory: 99.1%)
While attacking in Japanese territory at Tokyo, Axeman (0.40/5) defeats Japanese Longbowman (Prob Victory: 95.8%)
While attacking in Japanese territory at Tokyo, Axeman (4.00/5) defeats Japanese Samurai (Prob Victory: 97.1%)
While attacking in Japanese territory at Tokyo, Axeman (0.40/5) defeats Japanese Longbowman (Prob Victory: 96.0%)
While attacking in Japanese territory at Tokyo, Maceman (6.80/8) defeats Japanese Samurai (Prob Victory: 100.0%)
Buddhism has spread: Tokyo
Captured Tokyo (Tokugawa)
Thebes begins: Trebuchet (1 turns)
Ainu begins: Buddhist Monastery (3 turns)
Tokyo begins: Courthouse (181 turns)

After End Turn:
Tech acquired (trade, lightbulb, hut, espionage): Military Tradition
Thebes finishes: Trebuchet
Memphis grows to size 13
Heliopolis finishes: Longbowman
Alexandria finishes: Buddhist Monastery
Guimarães grows to size 11
Évora grows to size 4

Other Player Actions:
While defending in Egyptian territory at Tokyo, Knight (10.00/10) defeats Japanese Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 90.3%)
While defending in Japanese territory at Satsuma, Horse Archer loses to Japanese Spearman (4.00/4) (Prob Victory: 0.0%)

Turn 298/750 (1390 AD) [20-Nov-2008 21:42:41]
While attacking in Japanese territory at Kyoto, Trebuchet loses to Japanese Longbowman (6.00/6) (Prob Victory: 2.2%)
While attacking in Japanese territory at Kyoto, Trebuchet loses to Japanese Longbowman (5.16/6) (Prob Victory: 2.2%)
While attacking, Trebuchet decimates Japanese Longbowman (Prob Victory: 7.6%)
While attacking, Trebuchet escapes from Japanese Longbowman (Prob Victory: 67.4%)
While attacking, Trebuchet decimates Japanese Swordsman (Prob Victory: 99.6%)
While attacking in Japanese territory at Kyoto, Swordsman (4.68/6) defeats Japanese Longbowman (Prob Victory: 96.9%)
While attacking in Japanese territory at Kyoto, Bigman Drake (Maceman) (6.64/8) defeats Japanese Longbowman (Prob Victory: 99.8%)
While attacking in Japanese territory at Kyoto, Maceman (8.00/8) defeats Japanese Catapult (Prob Victory: 99.9%)
While attacking in Japanese territory at Kyoto, Maceman (8.00/8) defeats Japanese Spearman (Prob Victory: 100.0%)
While attacking in Japanese territory at Kyoto, Maceman (8.00/8) defeats Japanese Swordsman (Prob Victory: 100.0%)
Captured Kyoto (Tokugawa)
Kyoto begins: Courthouse (181 turns)
Longbowman promoted: City Garrison I
Longbowman promoted: City Garrison II
While attacking in Egyptian territory at Pi-Ramesses, Crossbowman (4.08/6) defeats Japanese Spearman (Prob Victory: 92.7%)
Research begun: Printing Press (7 Turns)
Thebes begins: Trebuchet (1 turns)
Heliopolis begins: Longbowman (2 turns)
Alexandria begins: Trebuchet (5 turns)

After End Turn:
Thebes finishes: Trebuchet
Alexandria grows to size 10
Alexandria's borders expand
Coimbra finishes: Islamic Monastery

Other Player Actions:

Turn 299/750 (1395 AD) [20-Nov-2008 21:55:39]
Thebes begins: Trebuchet (1 turns)
Coimbra begins: Bank (19 turns)

After End Turn:
Thebes finishes: Trebuchet
Heliopolis grows to size 11
Heliopolis finishes: Longbowman
Pi-Ramesses's borders expand
Giza finishes: Islamic Temple
Ainu finishes: Buddhist Monastery
Guimarães finishes: Bank
Lisbon grows to size 9
Oporto finishes: Granary

Other Player Actions:

Turn 300/750 (1400 AD) [20-Nov-2008 22:00:23]
Longbowman promoted: City Garrison I
Longbowman promoted: City Garrison II
Knight promoted: Combat III
While attacking in Egyptian territory at Kyoto, Knight (5.80/10) defeats Japanese Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 99.1%)
Thebes begins: Trebuchet (1 turns)
Heliopolis begins: Longbowman (2 turns)
Giza begins: Islamic Monastery (5 turns)
Ainu begins: Confucian Monastery (3 turns)
Guimarães begins: University (9 turns)
Oporto begins: Islamic Temple (6 turns)
Oporto begins: Islamic Monastery (8 turns)



Heres the highlights.

1

Islamic monastry in Helio (hammers hammers hammers....)


2

Oporto comes out of revolt and starts a granary

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Thanks!


3

I start to bombard Tokyo and kill a knight as I send more reinforcements up to Tokyo.


4

I move forces fropm Braga towards Tokus iron.

I starta Mosque in Pi to get a culture push on the go.


5

I attack a Samurie (spelling?) in our lands and we lose a knight. Boo.

Defences in Tokyo at 0% but i wait for the second stack to arrive.

I pillage Tokus Iron.

6

... not much really


7

Start to bombard Kyoto.

Destroy a HA and Cat near Pi.

Attack Tokyo. We lose 1 Treb.

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A trade.
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8

MilTrad > PP. I decide the extra commerce is a winner as is RP later on.

I attack Kyoto. We lose 2 Trebs.

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9

So we got MilTrad last turn...

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No I think not.


10

I forgot to makes notes on this turn. Doh! Sorry.


Info
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Victory screen
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We need more Trebs.

All cities have or are building courthouses now. I think.

Maybe we should switch to serfdom (about 8 gold cheaper).

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Got it, will play tomorrow.

Just a note, I have decided my commute to my new job is killing me, so I will now be renting during the week - ie no civ access other than weekends from here on out.
 
Good rounds guys, I love thumping Toku, something about that smirk he always seems to have . . .

Once we secure enough land from him to have limited cultural pressure, we should be in the clear to pick a winning condition and follow it through. We have great land and solid cities now, with Jaoa's and Tokus land added to ours.
 
We don't seem to have chosen a city for WP so I will have to resist building it until the decision is done
 
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Turn 300
Taking a look at the map, I decide to push some trebs from Giza to Nagoya to start dropping its defenses.

IBT
A Knight defends itself against a HA
And you will be shocked to discover:
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Turn 301:
Thebes completes Treb, start Cuirassier
Lisbon completes Cuir, start Cuir
GE born in Thebes, nothing interesting to spend him on right now, so I send him to the GE Parking spot
With no surpless incense about I decide not to mill that tile, and move to tile 3
Start Nagoya bombardment

Turn 302:
Thebes Cuir to Cuir
Helio Longbow to Harbour
Alex Treb to Treb
Lagos CH to Forge
Copper is also discovered in the hills near Lagos (City is still rubbish though!)
Nagoya hits 0%

IBT
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In hindsight this may have been :smoke:, but since we had a +12 rating with Asoka and +0 with Sury I decide to side with the Indians.
I then find out (annoying you can't look when the question is asked) that this loses us a silk for dye trade and a corn for 11 gold trade.

Turn 303
Ainu Confusion Monastry to Islam Mosque

IBT
The Iron mine I just rebuilt is detroyed again by infiltrators
Asoka goes free religion (and takes our huge diplo bonus with him!)

Turn 304
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Clearly not remotely worth it so I decline

Thebes Cuir to Cuir
Helio Harbour to Cuir
Nagoya is attacked with 2 treb losses (53% and 90% odds)
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I don't see what it offers us, and encrouches alot on other cities so I burn it.

IBT
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I decide to go with Replaceable Parts for the Production boost

Turn 305
Thebes Cuir to Cuir
Giza Islmaic Monastry to Market
I drop the science rate from 40% (-116) to 30% (-80) due to money worries

IBT
Spear defends Braga against a lone HA

Turn 306
Thebes Cuir to Cuir
Memphis Uni to Confu Monastry
Alex Treb to Longbow
Pi-Ram Islamic Mosque to Castle (For defense more than the trade route)
Lisbon Cuir to Uni (we need 3 more for Oxford)

In the attack on Nara, 1 catapult suicides, and I lose a Cuir at 66% odds giving Asoka a GG

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I also check and realise we are still in Slavery which I didn't realise, so whip Kyoto and Tokyo's Courthouses

Turn 307
Tokyo CH to Theatre
Kyoto CH to Theatre
Osaka is bombarded to 4%

Turn 308
Thebes Cuir to Cuir
Evora Grocer to Market
2 Trebs suicide into Osaka then:
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Turn 309
Thebes Cuir to Cuir
Helio Cuir to Uni
Braga CH to Theatre

Turn 310
Alex Longbow to Uni (Final one for Oxford)
Pi-Ram Castle to Theatre (Worried about losing tiles here soon)
Gem City Uni to Harbour
Oporto Islamic Monastry to Grocer

Attack on keggo costs a Treb (62%)
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I had hoped to finish him off, but a lone city survives, with several stacks (the largest of which shown below) closing

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Good sets grandad and Jkaen! Toku is done, stick a fork in him :p. We need to consolidate land now and "fix" some AI terrain improvements (too many windmills in Toku-land).

Probably finish Toku, and station our units on the western border, because Fred is STILL mobilizing for war.

I notice Fred and Asoka are in WFYABTA mode. Not sure how that will affect our plans, other than slowing down our tech acquisition.

Once the war is over in a few turns, we need to get our land into gear and our expenses under control. Probably want Rep/FS/CS/Merc/Paci to pump the specs and GPs while we rebuild. Once all the cities are out of revolt and working decent tiles, I think we want to light up the Artist for a GA.

Our military needs some careful downsizing afterwards as well. We have warriors and archers kicking around still. Anything from the classical age needs to go, preferably being replaced with modern units so we don't lose too much power.

We need to specialize our new cities as well and... we have a minor problem. Due to our wars, all our good production cities are at the back end of our empire. Meaning a long march to the frontline. We either have to make some production centers up at the fronts (costly in worker turns and cottage redevelopment), or prioritize getting rails.

Speaking of a large empire, we need our FP down. Don't know where we want it though, and don't know if we want to blow the GE that we got in Jkaen's turn on it in order to get it up fast and our expenses down. We likely want to run State Property later, so it will eventually be moot, but there's lots of stuff we need before Communism so...

West Point typically goes with HE, so that would mean Thebes.

Oh and I had a good laugh at Jkaen actually renaming the city to "Gem City", lol :lol:
 
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In the attack on Nara, 1 catapult suicides, and I lose a Cuir at 66% odds giving Asoka a GG

This made me do a double take!!

Maybe FP in Osaka? My the time we have some of Asoka's land and some of Freds we'll be able to go SP so might as well benifit now and not worry about future empire shape.
 
Wow, lots of action!

S.ilver is right though, we need to consolidate. Our economy is rolling on the spoils of war, but when its over, we are going to be in a bit of trouble I think.

Nicely done indeed! This crew is ready for Emperor! (No worries S.ilver, I play Emp MUCH tighter than Monarch, heh.)
 
Hmm... well it's been 3 days since Jkaen posted his set... and Gatling hasn't posted in this thread for 10 days (and his last post on the forums was from before Jkaen's set). Is a skip in order?
 
Sorry for the delay, work is eating a lot of my time...

T310 - Inherited (383G, -84G/t @ 30%, 341B/t)

T311 - Thebes: Cuirasser > WP. Thebes is way under happy cap and has been for too long... rebalanced for growth. Advance forces to Satsuma... we loose our maceman in Kagoshima to Toku's horse archer... our combat IV knight takes that out and we score another GG. Whip Universities in Heliopolis & Lisbon. (305G, -90G/t @ 30%, 352B/t)

T312 - Asoka cancels our one-way ivory deal
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Memphis: Monastery > Oxford. Heliopolis: University > Bank. Lisbon: University > Bank. Lagos: Forge > Library. At Satsuma: Barrage defenses down to 4%... first CR2 treb lives vs defenders at 51% odds... Cuirassers and a CR2 mace finish the rest. Toku is dead.

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T313 - Send a Cuirasser into Asoka and Fred's territory to scout for forces. Asoka will attack Suri for a price, and I'm betting that Fred will go after Suri soon as well. At that point, I think we kill Asoka for the shine income. Lots of cities converted to building wealth. Upgrade a CR2 axe to mace. (128G, +6G/t @ 30%, 352B/t)

T314 - Consolidate forces, improve land.

T315 - Replaceable Parts > Rifling. Tally-ho, intel report from the field: Fred is stacking forces on Suri's borders.
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T316 - Start some Lumbermills around Thebes. (174G, +20G/t @ 30%, 400B/t)

T317 - More scouting and improving infrastructure (194G, +20G/t @ 30%, 398B/t)

T318 - Great Prophet pop'd in Memphis (sent to parking lot with other GPs and GGs); Whip Oxford in Memphis. (214G, +13G/t @ 30%, +377B/t)

T319 - Thebes: West Point due in one turn. Memphis: Oxford > Theater. Whip Courthouse in Osaka. (227G, +4G/t @ 30%, +475B/t)

Not much to say... West point is due next turn, and I'd say we keep growing Thebes for a while... Declare war, rebuild, repeat, win....
 

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Good set Gatling, looks like we're in a dominating position now.

We still need more work on the financial side of things. We're only in the green right now because 7 cities are producing wealth, which is far from ideal.

Some cost cutting measures I see include dropping Bureau and Organized Religion for Free Speech (saves money AND makes money) and Pacifism (assuming we still want to throw the switch on GP generation, which seems unlikely due to the crowd of GPs sitting outside of Thebes, otherwise it is close to break even with our large military).

We can also renegotiate a few deals. Sury isn't talking because we stopped trading with him, so not much we can do there. But we acquired a source of rice in Toku's land, so we don't need to get it from Fred anymore. We can explore some other opportunities including gpt.

We should definitely backfill our garrisons, especially since we're on the road to rifling already. Get our military cities to build constant rifles and replace the old garrisons. Revenue neutral, but it will help our power rating at no extra cost to us.

FP in... Osaka? 15 turns while running the mines, or instantly with the engineer. Courthouse is done next turn anyways. Seeing that relatively short time, I'm inclined to bank the engineer for a wonder that we want. SoL is solid, but Mansa is teching Democracy right now, so he'll have a jump on it. Pentagon is always fun for ripping someone to shreds. Any other speculations are farther down the line, and we'll have probably won some way or another by then (Cristo for the sheer cheese, TGD for ownage on this map).
 
I've always liked the idea of building the Forbidden palace close to the current capital, then moving the capital as you capture land from other AIs... it really doesn't matter to me though.
 
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