NES2 V - The Great Game.

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To HRE:
From Hungary:
Hungary considers its treaty with the HRE to be part of a larger treaty system bringing an end to the war as a whole (similar to IRL Versailles). Therefore, we urge the HRE to resolve its differences with Poland, so that the entire treaty system may be verified and put into action.

Concerning the State of the Balkans

Hungary hereby declares that it has no intention of annexing any territory in the Balkans, and has no desire to wage war on any newly independent Balkan state. With Hungary's military involvement in the Great War at an end upon the successful implementation of the Treaty with the Holy Roman Empire, Hungary considers itself to officially be in a state of peace with all nations.
 
OOC: A summary so far:

Grandmaster wants:
-territory concession as shown on his map

I want:
-Return to prewar borders

Contempt wants:
-formation of kingdom of prussia

What do Finmaster and Azale want?
 
Um Contempt already made it clear that there's no peace with Muscovy unless Alexius is tried and executed :lol:
 
ThomAnder said:
Um Contempt already made it clear that there's no peace with Muscovy unless Alexius is tried and executed :lol:
Well I think we can compromise...
 
Not based on the terms that silver offered. :p In case you didn't notice Silver isn't interested in "peace".
 
andis-1 said:
Well I think we can compromise...

He was burned our capital, our pride and joy, to the ground. The Kalmar factories no longer burn with iron, and many thousands of civilians were killed by the Tsars breaking of the fundemental rules of war, disguising themselves as Swedes to inflitrate our lands, and for what? To burn our city, killing civilans? Leaving elder men, women, and children homeless in the coming winter?

There will be no compromise. A state of war will exist between Muscovy and the Scandinavian Union until either the Tsas abdicates the throne and withdraws from our territory, or the Tsar is killed in battle, or captured, tried for his crimes, and executed. A compromise is not good enough, not if the Holy Roman Empire wishes to throw aside peace in exchange for war.
 
Contempt said:
He was burned our capital, our pride and joy, to the ground. The Kalmar factories no longer burn with iron, and many thousands of civilians were killed by the Tsars breaking of the fundemental rules of war, disguising themselves as Swedes to inflitrate our lands, and for what? To burn our city, killing civilans? Leaving elder men, women, and children homeless in the coming winter?

Lurker's Comment: Does anyone else see the irony in this statement being made from contempt? :p
 
alex994 said:
Lurker's Comment: Does anyone else see the irony in this statement being made from contempt? :p

That's...a stupid statement, since what I've done role-playing a Mongol nation has no standing while I'm role-playing a civilized nation in the 19 hundreds.
 
I'll just sit here and chuckle. Feel free to mock my fall from power, at least it came cleanly and I obeyed the rules of war.
 
Thlayli said:
I'm sensing a lot of frustration in the peace talks. ;)

When isn't there frustration in peace talks? :confused:

Also @Grandmaster; is invoking Versailles a good idea really? ;)

Lord_Iggy said:
I'll just sit here and chuckle. Feel free to mock my fall from power, at least it came cleanly and I obeyed the rules of war.

Ah you could have done much worse, but the other nations have learnt from your example, and want a strong treaty in case Germany do what Persia and Sweden did...
 
Nah, I'm not going to mock the Ottomans, after you were kind enough to give us what we declared war for in the first place :lol:

Although the thing with africa - maybe a slight over commitment of forces? ;)
 
Excerpts of Riksdag medal of Honors given out during Muscovite-Scandinavian War, Published for the public 1868

Arvid Wittenberg

Rank and Organization: Private First Class, United Scandinavian Armed Forces, Berserker Division XV, 12th Berserker squad.

Place and Date: Muhos, Northern Finland province, 18th of February 1867.

Place of Enlistment: Stockholm, 1865.

Place of Birth: Kalmar, 1846

Citation: For conspicuous bravery and intrepidity at the risk of life above and beyond the call of duty on 18th of February 1867 in Muhos. Arvid Wittenberg distinguished himself above and beyond the call of duty during the Liberation of Muhos at around 6 o'clock at night, during the heaviest of the fighting to liberate the city from Muscovite control. His company came under intense fire in their attempt to take city square, and the captain was killed in the line of duty by Muscovy fire.

With no regard for his own safety, Arvid Wittenberg ignored orders and ran out from cover to flank a nearby enemy position which was pinning down his squad. Acting alone without fire support, Wittenberg was shot in the leg in the course of his almost suicidal support. Ignoring his wounds, Wittenberg managed to reach the enemy position of sandbags, unloading his remaining clip of his Krag-Jorgenson weapon, killing 4 of the five enemy soldiers hiding behind the defense. With no ammunition remaining, Wittenberg, while injured engaged the remaining enemy in hand to hand combat to solely neutralize the enemy position. He continued to fight with his wound and his company, refusing medical care until the city was liberated.

It was Arvid Wittenberg's courage and contempt of death that allowed his battalion to continue advancing into the center of the city, and liberate it from Muscovite control. Arvid Wittenberg's dauntless courage and intrepid actions reflect utmost credit upon himself and are in keeping with the honored traditions of Scandinavian military service.

Carl Gustaf Dücker

Rank and Organization: Sergeant, United Scandinavian Armed Forces, Division XX, 17th Cavalry Regiment, 20th Cavalry Scout squad.

Place and Date: Near Kupio , Southern Finland province, 25th of April 1867.

Place of Enlistment: Hassleholm, 1865.

Place of Birth: Stockholm, 1839

Citation: For conspicuous bravery and intrepidity at the risk of life above and beyond the call of duty near Kupio on the 25th of April 1867. Dücker distinguished himself above and beyond the call of duty by alerting the Scandinavian Army Corps IV of a large Muscovite army movement, leading the men under his command to several Telegraph checkpoints while avoiding capture to bring the Scandinavian army corps this vital information.

Braving the snow under the orders of the XX Division commander, Dücker lead his cavalry scout squad into the snowy cold to bring valuable information back to the Scandinavian High command. Under duress after three days braving the snow, his squad was tired, cold, and ready to return to base camp. Acting on a hunch, Sergeant Dücker ordered his men to stay one day further. Waking to hear Muscovy arm columns moving, Dücker lead his men on the 25th of April to a nearby Telegraph station. Spotting several Muscovite patrols, Sergeant Dücker acted near the Telegraph station to the highest valor attributed to the Scandinavian Military.

Sergeant Dücker spotted a Muscovite patrol heading towards the same Telegraph station, and acting with the utmost honor and valor expected of the Scandinavian military, Sergeant Dücker volunteered himself as leader to act as a decoy to allow the rest of the squad to continue on to deliver the message to Corps IV. Ignoring his squads protests, Sergeant Dücker rode out against the snow, and began engaging the Muscovite squad single handedly, running circles around them with his tired, cold, and wet horse. Sergeant Dücker killed two Muscovite soldiers while leading them away from the Telegraph station, and held up the patrol long enough before being felled for his own squad to succeed in sending the message to Corps IV.

Sergeant Dücker's noble sacrifice allowed the Scandinavian Corps IV to receive the message, and allowed Southern Finland to be breeched by Corps IV. Sergeant Dücker's noble sacrifice and courageous actions reflect utmost credit upon himself and are in keeping with the honored traditions of Scandinavian military service.

Hans Henric

Rank and Organization: Captain, United Scandinavian Armed Forces, Berserker Division V, 4th Berserker Squad.

Place and Date: Near Pori, Southern Finland province, 2nd of May 1867.

Place of Enlistment: Kalmar, 1866.

Place of Birth: Hamburg, 1850

Citation: For conspicuous bravery and intrepidity at the risk of life above and beyond the call of duty near Pori on the 2nd of May 1867. A German immigrant who joined the Scandinavian army to help his new country liberate and free his people, Henric was assigned to the Muscovite campaign against his protests. Although dissatisfied with his assignment, Henric acted with the utmost honor and courage in his service in the Muscovy campaign, quickly rising to the rank of captain.

On the 2nd of May, Henric's squadron was moving to assist another Berserker Squadron engaged with a fortified enemy. Reaching the combat zone, Henric found the other Squadron's captain dead. Quickly assuming control of the wayward squadron, quickly directing the attack against the Muscovy enemy. Personally killing 3 enemies, Henric led the dual squad to minimal causalties while overwhelming the enemy in the region.

Receiving reports of further battle down the road, Henric led his squadron to assist. There, a second Berserker Captain had fallen to Muscovy attack, and Henric similarly took control of the squads against Muscovy attacks upon a central defensive position. Through his leadership, the combined squadrons drove off three Muscovy assaults, even after Henric fell wounded from Muscovy attack, he led the men under his control, directing the defense until allied reinforcements drove off the enemy.

Henric's leadership and valor reflect utmost credit upon himself and are in keeping with the honored traditions of Scandinavian military service.
 
Meh, not invoking Versailles; I made a point NOT to make excessive demands, and I hope my allies do the same. I just couldn't think of another example of a "treaty system" comprising multiple peace treaties. And there is no frustration, at least as far as Hungary is concerned.
 
Italy wishes for Venice and Styria as parts of the treaty....

we need to organize a map with who gets what and all the details and signers and whatnot. Its why I posed peace to begin with, not to get an independent deal but to just start things up.
 
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