Abaddon
Deity
Think we need Daft to step in with some new NPC evolutions tho.. we kinda bypassed the whole insect family on this world!
NESLife attempt #3
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Haseri
Emperor
There, made them an evoloution of the Scourge. Sorry Abaddon, you'll have to make your own creture.
Abaddon
Deity
Ah, i'll retro-evolve them i suppose.. or are some earlier from of "scourge" still alive?
Fuschia
A Little Odd
I've been trying to get up too spiders with the Prot-Inis, but it doesn't look as though the next set on the evolution will be around long enough to spawn all of the different insect families, which is what I was really hoping for...
Anyways, here is my evolution:
Spoiler :
Predatory Inis: Fuschia
Evolved from: Proto-Inis
Survival Status: Questionable
Genes(28): Swimming x3, Plankton Eating x1, Insect Eatingx6, Exoskeletonx2, Silk Production x2, Smelling x2, Eyesx1, Cold Resistancex2, Water Retentionx2, Lungsx1, Crawlingx3, Hibernating Eggsx1, Poisonx1, Complex Metamorphosisx1
Genes Removed: Plankton Eatingx3
Genes Added: Flesh Eatingx1, Poisonx1, Complex Metamporphosisx1
Description: The Proto-Inis was having trouble with its competitor, the Arobreanaria, on land; as such, it learned to live more closely with the water and developed a very strange mechanism for spreading its species.
When a Predatory Inis reaches full size, it swims to the nearest area of calm water and mates, lays a large number of eggs, and dies, leaving them with a source of sustanence. These eggs quickly mature into a larval form of the Predatory Inis that requires a great deal of nutrition to begin moving into its final stage of life. The larvae begin to swim, looking much like large plankton or small fish to aquatic predators.
The larvae rely on these predators to "eat" several of them; once they are consumed, the larvae release toxins in response to the sudden change of environment. Generally, as they tend to swim as a group, the number of larvae is enough to quickly kill the predator, although the larger predators were still immune to such attacks. When the predator dies, the larvae feast on the corpse; with hope, the one corpse is enough nutrition for them all to begin the metamorphosis into an adult Predatory Inis. If not, they continue the process with other predators, although the chances of full maturing decrease with every kill.
When the larvae have gained enough nutrition to begin their metamorphosis, they swim to the bottom of whatever body of water they happen to be in and dig a hole, in which they stay for anywhere from a few hours to a week, depending on how much excess nutrition they have been able to gather. When fully mature, they leave the water and, while still retaining the ability to swim, generally avoiding it for hunting on land, where they would spin large and complex webs to catch anything from insects to small birds. They eventually reach full size and continue the mating process.
This, however, is only the fate for the females of the species. One out of about one hundred eggs is a male. The males of the species have a slightly different form of metamorphosis; instead of moving onto land, they shed their lungs and attempt to help the younger, larval Inises to properly bring down their prey in the water; their poison glands are much more fully developed than the larvae Inises, rendering them a great aid to those attempting to reach full maturity. As they still largely resemble the larval Inises, this is fairly easy for them to do, and they gather enough food while doing this too survive until they die of old age; they are also what drags the females back to the water in order to mate, as otherwise the species may have moved more towards the land and away from the water.
Wow, that took a while to write out properly...
Fuschia
A Little Odd
We need insects because they are, by far, the life group with the most species. Besides, I really, really want to make flying spiders... 
Abaddon
Deity
Its just another avenue to evolve into if we are to make this world complete 
Grombar
Fire in the Hole
Spoiler :
Banded Lupivus
Genes Added (Max 3): Camouflage x1, Climbing x1, Strength x1
Genes Removed: Pack Hunting x1
Description: During this era the Lupivus branched a bit more. This branch the Banded Lupivus headed into the forests. Here they evolved a basic type of camo to blend in with the plants and trees that surrounded them, they also started climbing trees to get at other sources of food and with that there muscles toned out giving them added strength. Since hunting in the woods required more stalking the Banded Lupivus went back to its roots of hunting alone or with its mate and just bringing back the kills to the den where small family units made their living.
Ekolite
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Ok... Ignore Irritant Zeeboo. I'm doing something new this turn.
Kakliea
Evolved from: Valios Polykalios (Woot! First animal)
Original Genes (36): Complex Stomach x3, Flesh Eating x4, Swimming x1, Vibration Sense x2, Eyes x2, Brain Power x2, Skeleton x2, Cartilage x1, Jaws x2, Fangs x1, Communal Behaviour x4, Water Retention x2, Lungs x1, Walking x3, Climbing x3, Parenting Instinct x2, Large Eggs x1
Genes Added: Live birth x1, fur x1, claws x1, complex stomach x4)
Genes removed: large eggs x1, swimming x1, communal behavior x1
The Kakliea was a small(ish) tree-climbing mammal. During this era it left the water completely, losing the ability to swim. The Kakliea lived together in famillies, each familly would be made up of around 5 to 10 related individuals, it was common for a famillies to be centred around one tree, on which they would have multiple familly nests. They would often raid nearby birds nests for eggs or baby birds alone or with a mate although generally the males of the familly went scavenging, primarilly they ate fruit and nuts from trees, insects, and small animals. The Kakliea weren't the most dangerous of animals but together they could easilly bring down small animals It would not have been un-common to see Kackliea packs dragging fresh corpses back to their tribes. Also, if the familly's territory was threatened in any way. They would climb agilely up the trees, where they would leap down on the intruder, fangs and claws at the ready. Males of the species were always slightly larger, with stronger leg muscles and larger teeth. Kakliea communicated with small chirping sounds.
I'm not too familiar with animal genes so I hope this is OK.
BTW, Kakliea are mammals, althoughn they evolved from amphibeans.
Kakliea
Evolved from: Valios Polykalios (Woot! First animal
)Original Genes (36): Complex Stomach x3, Flesh Eating x4, Swimming x1, Vibration Sense x2, Eyes x2, Brain Power x2, Skeleton x2, Cartilage x1, Jaws x2, Fangs x1, Communal Behaviour x4, Water Retention x2, Lungs x1, Walking x3, Climbing x3, Parenting Instinct x2, Large Eggs x1
Genes Added: Live birth x1, fur x1, claws x1, complex stomach x4)
Genes removed: large eggs x1, swimming x1, communal behavior x1
The Kakliea was a small(ish) tree-climbing mammal. During this era it left the water completely, losing the ability to swim. The Kakliea lived together in famillies, each familly would be made up of around 5 to 10 related individuals, it was common for a famillies to be centred around one tree, on which they would have multiple familly nests. They would often raid nearby birds nests for eggs or baby birds alone or with a mate although generally the males of the familly went scavenging, primarilly they ate fruit and nuts from trees, insects, and small animals. The Kakliea weren't the most dangerous of animals but together they could easilly bring down small animals It would not have been un-common to see Kackliea packs dragging fresh corpses back to their tribes. Also, if the familly's territory was threatened in any way. They would climb agilely up the trees, where they would leap down on the intruder, fangs and claws at the ready. Males of the species were always slightly larger, with stronger leg muscles and larger teeth. Kakliea communicated with small chirping sounds.
I'm not too familiar with animal genes so I hope this is OK.
BTW, Kakliea are mammals, althoughn they evolved from amphibeans.
What happens if a bathystower is on a vent? would the Diverfish attack it?
Daftpanzer
canonically ambiguous
About 'insects', its been asumed for a while that there are tons and tons of tiny, simple insect-like species on both land and sea. That is what 'insect eating' means, that digestion and mouth parts etc are adapted to eat these tiny things.
Rather than have them all listed in the stats (making it about 10 times bigger than it already is ), we can just assume they are there, but they are not very interesting. The insect-like species that do get mentioned (Scourges, Jubblers, X-worms etc) are just the most interesting ones.
I wonder if brand new species should be able to start with 6 genes or so... Instead of evolving from 'plankton', they could now evolve from generic insects or simple algae etc.
Looks like the Diverfish will be laying eggs around the vent and amongst the Bathystowers at the edge, and not attacking any of those 'plants'.
Rather than have them all listed in the stats (making it about 10 times bigger than it already is
), we can just assume they are there, but they are not very interesting. The insect-like species that do get mentioned (Scourges, Jubblers, X-worms etc) are just the most interesting ones.I wonder if brand new species should be able to start with 6 genes or so... Instead of evolving from 'plankton', they could now evolve from generic insects or simple algae etc.
Nailix said:
Looks like the Diverfish will be laying eggs around the vent and amongst the Bathystowers at the edge, and not attacking any of those 'plants'.
What if the larva is chewed when eaten? Getting willingly eaten is a risky strategy.I've been trying to get up too spiders with the Prot-Inis, but it doesn't look as though the next set on the evolution will be around long enough to spawn all of the different insect families, which is what I was really hoping for...
Anyways, here is my evolution:
Spoiler :
Predatory Inis: Fuschia
Evolved from: Proto-Inis
Survival Status: Questionable
Genes(28): Swimming x3, Plankton Eating x1, Insect Eatingx6, Exoskeletonx2, Silk Production x2, Smelling x2, Eyesx1, Cold Resistancex2, Water Retentionx2, Lungsx1, Crawlingx3, Hibernating Eggsx1, Poisonx1, Complex Metamorphosisx1
Genes Removed: Plankton Eatingx3
Genes Added: Flesh Eatingx1, Poisonx1, Complex Metamporphosisx1
Description: The Proto-Inis was having trouble with its competitor, the Arobreanaria, on land; as such, it learned to live more closely with the water and developed a very strange mechanism for spreading its species.
When a Predatory Inis reaches full size, it swims to the nearest area of calm water and mates, lays a large number of eggs, and dies, leaving them with a source of sustanence. These eggs quickly mature into a larval form of the Predatory Inis that requires a great deal of nutrition to begin moving into its final stage of life. The larvae begin to swim, looking much like large plankton or small fish to aquatic predators.
The larvae rely on these predators to "eat" several of them; once they are consumed, the larvae release toxins in response to the sudden change of environment. Generally, as they tend to swim as a group, the number of larvae is enough to quickly kill the predator, although the larger predators were still immune to such attacks. When the predator dies, the larvae feast on the corpse; with hope, the one corpse is enough nutrition for them all to begin the metamorphosis into an adult Predatory Inis. If not, they continue the process with other predators, although the chances of full maturing decrease with every kill.
When the larvae have gained enough nutrition to begin their metamorphosis, they swim to the bottom of whatever body of water they happen to be in and dig a hole, in which they stay for anywhere from a few hours to a week, depending on how much excess nutrition they have been able to gather. When fully mature, they leave the water and, while still retaining the ability to swim, generally avoiding it for hunting on land, where they would spin large and complex webs to catch anything from insects to small birds. They eventually reach full size and continue the mating process.
This, however, is only the fate for the females of the species. One out of about one hundred eggs is a male. The males of the species have a slightly different form of metamorphosis; instead of moving onto land, they shed their lungs and attempt to help the younger, larval Inises to properly bring down their prey in the water; their poison glands are much more fully developed than the larvae Inises, rendering them a great aid to those attempting to reach full maturity. As they still largely resemble the larval Inises, this is fairly easy for them to do, and they gather enough food while doing this too survive until they die of old age; they are also what drags the females back to the water in order to mate, as otherwise the species may have moved more towards the land and away from the water.
Wow, that took a while to write out properly...
I strongly disagree with the evolving from insects idea. It would be just as bad as having everyone making their own new species earlier in the game.About 'insects', its been asumed for a while that there are tons and tons of tiny, simple insect-like species on both land and sea. That is what 'insect eating' means, that digestion and mouth parts etc are adapted to eat these tiny things.
Rather than have them all listed in the stats (making it about 10 times bigger than it already is
I wonder if brand new species should be able to start with 6 genes or so... Instead of evolving from 'plankton', they could now evolve from generic insects or simple algae etc.
I think you should keep the insect as it is: IE: Insects are descended from Sandworms, Cavorytes, and Jumping Zibblers.
It's too late to make insects a big part of the game, at any rate.
Fuschia
A Little Odd
Of course it is. But it is also interesting, which is, more or less, why I did it. Besides, since they lay up to several hundred eggs at a time, the number that are destroyed by anything that chews, while a large percentage, won't necessarily damage the species as a whole, and there are always those animals that just eat plankton, which you don't chew, like the old Spinanerarieas and such.
Fuschia
A Little Odd
There's not really much of an infant-feeding problem; the methods of the Predatory Inis are very efficient at spreading the population rapidly over large areas, which is why it developed as it did. The poison takes a while to act properly if the creature being killed is either large or has swallowed a small number of larvae; this allows it to move before dying, possibly a long ways away from the location where it devoured its "prey." It then dies and the Predatory Inis has a possibly large colony in another area of the world, and the process repeats itself.
The other advantage of the new evolution is a difference in food type and location between adults and larvae. This allows for each to have a plentiful food source and not interfere with the other in any way, which will, hopefully, boost the population in areas without as many insects to eat.
Besides, I'm going to work this into communal webs and such later on by having all the members of one of these groups work together through adulthood, although I'm sure my foresight will bother someone...
Daftpanzer
canonically ambiguous
@Fuschia, OK thinking about this, Poison x1 isn't all that deadly, especially if the predator has 'complex stomach'. So maybe more larvae will need to get eaten before the predator dies. More likely, the predator gets ill and stops eating, swims away and doesnt die. Or it becomes an instinct to avoid those kind of larvae altogether...
Just thought I should point that out, I really like your description otherwise
Maybe increasing the poison, or having 'parasitic eggs'/parasitic larvae' would be better?
Anyway, as things stand, i see it working fine as a defence mechanism only. The larvae may be developed enough to hunt 'insects' as soon as they hatch, with or without webs as such.
Competition from the other finners (Double and Velocine), plus predators getting better. Don't worry, they aren't 'endangered' yet! Their braininess does give them one advantage.
Just thought I should point that out, I really like your description otherwise
Maybe increasing the poison, or having 'parasitic eggs'/parasitic larvae' would be better?
Anyway, as things stand, i see it working fine as a defence mechanism only. The larvae may be developed enough to hunt 'insects' as soon as they hatch, with or without webs as such.
erez87 said:
Competition from the other finners (Double and Velocine), plus predators getting better. Don't worry, they aren't 'endangered' yet! Their braininess does give them one advantage.
Fuschia
A Little Odd
Well, the hope would be that, since all the larvae hatch in roughly the same area, any predator would eat enough to kill them before they actually had any ill effect. I suppose I'll have to think about shifting it around a little, though...
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