Lords, generally, who want a source of income since they can tax. You know, your main source of income in this game.
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Lords, generally, who want a source of income since they can tax. You know, your main source of income in this game.
Terrance888
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MAKE WAY FOR THE BAD GUY
Not if you have only used it twice. Looks like someone really does not like the word and meaning.
Amon Savag
The Great
Ok, first off... LMAO @ "Iggypunch". Seriously, I almost fell off my seat.
Second... If possible, please change "Hustlaz" to something more appropriate to the time frame Churchill
Third... Here is the map of France propper, that we will be using. I initially made a map with over 130 cities on it, but thought to myself "Gangster please", as I realised I would have to moderate 130 factions in France alone (At least at the very begining). This is an impossible task, so the following map is the end product.
I need input on color... Should I only color important factions? Or should I color duchies, when they're formed? Maybe I should color PCs and important NPCs? I don't know... that's alot of factions to color individually, so please tell me what you think.
Here is a list of the cities and their corresponding numbers on the map. I propologise if the numbers on the map are too small for your eyes. If this indeed is the case, please save the map to your harddrive so that you can blow it up.
1.Calais
2.Gand
3.Ponthieu
4.Cambrai
5.Rouen
6.Beauvais
7.Vermand
8.Reims
9.Melun
10.Cherbourg
11.Bayeux
12.Lisieux
13.Eoreux
14.Paris
15.Exmes
16.Avranches
17.Chalons
18.Le Mans
19.Anille
20.Orleans
21.Blois
22.Tours
23.Angers
24.Nantes
25.Brienne
26.Ferriers
27.Langres
28.Tonnerre
29.Dijon
30.Nevers
31.Autun
32.Lyon
33.Thouars
34.Poitiers
35.St. Maixent
36.Chatelaillon
37.Saintes
38.Angeouleme
39.Perigueux
40.Cormery
41.Massay
42.Bourges
43.Limoges
44.Chatteau-Meillant
45.Neris
46.Evaux
47.Turenne
48.Clermont
49.Brioude
50..Mende
51.Rodek
52.Cahors
53.Agen
54.Albi
55.Nimes
56.Toulouse
57.Narbonne
58.Carcassonne
59.Bordeaux
60.Baxas
61.Dax
62.Bayonne
63.Moron
64.Auch
65.Conserans
66.Biyorre
67.Chartres
Second... If possible, please change "Hustlaz" to something more appropriate to the time frame Churchill
Third... Here is the map of France propper, that we will be using. I initially made a map with over 130 cities on it, but thought to myself "Gangster please", as I realised I would have to moderate 130 factions in France alone (At least at the very begining). This is an impossible task, so the following map is the end product.
I need input on color... Should I only color important factions? Or should I color duchies, when they're formed? Maybe I should color PCs and important NPCs? I don't know... that's alot of factions to color individually, so please tell me what you think.
Here is a list of the cities and their corresponding numbers on the map. I propologise if the numbers on the map are too small for your eyes. If this indeed is the case, please save the map to your harddrive so that you can blow it up.
1.Calais
2.Gand
3.Ponthieu
4.Cambrai
5.Rouen
6.Beauvais
7.Vermand
8.Reims
9.Melun
10.Cherbourg
11.Bayeux
12.Lisieux
13.Eoreux
14.Paris
15.Exmes
16.Avranches
17.Chalons
18.Le Mans
19.Anille
20.Orleans
21.Blois
22.Tours
23.Angers
24.Nantes
25.Brienne
26.Ferriers
27.Langres
28.Tonnerre
29.Dijon
30.Nevers
31.Autun
32.Lyon
33.Thouars
34.Poitiers
35.St. Maixent
36.Chatelaillon
37.Saintes
38.Angeouleme
39.Perigueux
40.Cormery
41.Massay
42.Bourges
43.Limoges
44.Chatteau-Meillant
45.Neris
46.Evaux
47.Turenne
48.Clermont
49.Brioude
50..Mende
51.Rodek
52.Cahors
53.Agen
54.Albi
55.Nimes
56.Toulouse
57.Narbonne
58.Carcassonne
59.Bordeaux
60.Baxas
61.Dax
62.Bayonne
63.Moron
64.Auch
65.Conserans
66.Biyorre
67.Chartres
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Amon Savag
The Great
A couple things I forgot to say in my last post... More cities will pop up as time goes on. There will be times when charters can be granted to create cities etc... As of right now, all this cities that cold be on the map, but aren't, are considered simple farming villages, and aren't exploitable atm. Like I said, they will perhaps be available as time goes on.
Now I have the world map, and templates to do, as well as a couple of provisions to the rules... Then, I will be ready to launch this sumbiznatch. I appreciate everyone's patience.
I immagine the map won't take too long, considering North King's 900 map... I'm simply going to edit it a bit. The templates might take a little while, and the rules will probably be a 15 minute deal... So if I work hard (And I just might!) we can see the map tomarrow, and the rest could possibly be done the following day, and ready for launch.
Now I have the world map, and templates to do, as well as a couple of provisions to the rules... Then, I will be ready to launch this sumbiznatch. I appreciate everyone's patience.
I immagine the map won't take too long, considering North King's 900 map... I'm simply going to edit it a bit. The templates might take a little while, and the rules will probably be a 15 minute deal... So if I work hard (And I just might!) we can see the map tomarrow, and the rest could possibly be done the following day, and ready for launch.
Neverwonagame3
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Shouldn't Brittany be part of France? There wasn't any meaningful distinction that didn't apply to most of the kingdom at that time.
Neverwonagame3
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Brittany was an important player in French affairs- their effect on Norman affairs (both wars and alliances) changed the course of history. The only good explanation for leaving Brittany out and the rest in is modern nationalism.
Yes, they were very important in French affairs, and I am sure they will be. But the thing to note is that they are still Brittany and we are playing French Nobles. Brittany identified itself as something other than France, very close to France, but independent.
Besides there are enough French areas needing players that we do not need to start bringing in other areas yet.
Besides there are enough French areas needing players that we do not need to start bringing in other areas yet.
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Nationalism did not exist back then- even after the French Revolution, a study commisioned showed that most Frenchmen did not know they were French!
Given that most of France was at this time practically independent from the King (as shown by their independent foreign policies), if any of France is to count as part of it Britanny should.
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Does anything in there have an actual logical argument? You have no basis for excluding Brittany from France "proper", other then appeal to authority. I was trying to persuade Amon Savag in the first place- I wasn't challenging his authority or anything.
Amon Savag
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Brittany's dukes usually as a rule didn't pledge allegiance to the King of France, thus it can be assumed that they acted as their own independancy. Brittany was an important player in French politics, and I understand this, and they will undoubtedly play an important roll in French politics of this NES. I would like Brittany to remane a duchy, however. If I were to encorporate Brittany into France, it would have to be divided into 3 or 4 different lordships, all independant of one another, as the rest of France is.
If I had started with duchies in France, as well as lesser lords, I would be able to encorporate Brittany into the fold as possibly playable (Only if the rest of France was taken). But since Toulouse holds the same amount of power as Blois, relatively, Brest would also have relatively the same amount of power. If we want to fully appreciate Brittany's historical roll in French politics, we must have a fully unified duchy of Brittany.
If I had started with duchies in France, as well as lesser lords, I would be able to encorporate Brittany into the fold as possibly playable (Only if the rest of France was taken). But since Toulouse holds the same amount of power as Blois, relatively, Brest would also have relatively the same amount of power. If we want to fully appreciate Brittany's historical roll in French politics, we must have a fully unified duchy of Brittany.
No, This was my response saying Im tired, its late Im going to bed and you obviously will not change your position so this is pointless.
Not a city yet?
Amon Savag
The Great
Iggy #32 is Lyon. I accidentally had it as a different city on the list... I fixed it.
Abaddon
Deity
Amon, whats stopping me have my stats as 20/20/20 perhaps you should roll some dice or give us a max to split between?
Hmm well the French people may have not known they were French but the lords would have and if the Brittan's didnt pledge allegiance to the King then they sure as hel arent French and should not be playable as the Germans, Spanish, italians and English arent despite them being 'important in France's history'
Amon Savag
The Great
Thanks Tyrion.
Abbadon. I've answered your question before on this thread. I'm not allowing you to pick your courtier's stats. I'm allowing you to write a description of your courtiers/lord, so that I will have a better understanding of what type of courtier/lord he would be. Your inputting numbers into the places where the numbers will be inevitably doesn't mean those will be the numbers that I end up giving you.
Abbadon. I've answered your question before on this thread. I'm not allowing you to pick your courtier's stats. I'm allowing you to write a description of your courtiers/lord, so that I will have a better understanding of what type of courtier/lord he would be. Your inputting numbers into the places where the numbers will be inevitably doesn't mean those will be the numbers that I end up giving you.
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