New film version of Dune to be made :)

[Kyriakos]

I like parts of it (the Sandworms, spice, mentats, navigators needed for FTL etc) but it does seem to be more on the space opera category than something very literary.

 

[Thorgalaeg]

I like the movie because how crazy it is.

 

[brennan]

OWhat I find blatantly unforgivable with these two jerks is when they made it very plain in Paul of Dune (an interquel novel placed between Dune and Dune Messiah - they actually have the gall to market it as the sequel to Dune) that everything related in Dune - the entire novel - was nothing more than a propaganda piece written by Irulan at Paul's orders, and none of it's true - only the KJA/BH material is true.

That's a retcon of mammoth proportions, and is a blatant gesture of contempt toward the original six novels and basically spitting on Frank Herbert's legacy.

I generally don't like retcons. Sounds like this one takes the biscuit.

 

[Kyriakos]

Hm, I watched the 2000 tv series.
Not good
Both Lynch's movie and the 2000 tv series have very little of anything that is actually (imo) interesting.
That said, the movie has some better parts (navigator scene, with the brooming peons/ how the Harkonnen planet is presented). Though the actor playing Vladimir Harkonnen in the tv series was imo better.
Can't say I like the overall story.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

Hm, I watched the 2000 tv series.
Not good
Both Lynch's movie and the 2000 tv series have very little of anything that is actually (imo) interesting.
That said, the movie has some better parts (navigator scene, with the brooming peons/ how the Harkonnen planet is presented). Though the actor playing Vladimir Harkonnen in the tv series was imo better.
Can't say I like the overall story.

If you could take the best parts of the Lynch movie and the best parts of the TV miniseries and combine them, you might get closer to the actual novel. Both the movie and miniseries did have some excellent aspects to them (ie. Jurgen Prochnow as Duke Leto - Lynch; Julie Cox as Irulan - miniseries). There were some aspects of the music in both that were fantastic.

I'm not sure anything could save the depictions of the Bene Gesserit. Both were crap, for different reasons. Ditto the Sardaukar.

Hopefully this new movie will be a better portrayal of Vladimir Harkonnen. The Lynch version was basically a cartoon villain, and the TV series was better, but still not quite there. What KJA/BH got completely wrong about him and the Bene Gesserit (regarding Jessica's parentage) is that no, the Baron did not rape Mohiam, she did not give him a disfiguring disease as revenge, and in any case, she wasn't Jessica's mother in the first place. The Baron's physical condition happened because A. he's self-indulgent; and B. he enjoys offending people - and since the rest of his Imperial peers found him offensive, he kept on going.

 

[innonimatu]

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1935156/

Jodorowsky's Dune is a cool film if you like Dune and are interested in the film machinery and what can go wrong

You had me there for a moment, I wondered if Jodorowsky had actually made a Dune version

 

[Kyriakos]

So, what is this drawing by Giger supposed to be in Dune?

 

[Valka D'Ur]

I think that's supposed to be the palace in Arrakeen. The face is the face of Baron Harkonnen.

Thankfully none of the other productions went in that direction.

 

[Kyriakos]

Some of the cast:

Leto:

Stilgar:

Halleck:

Vladimir Harkonnen:

I think it will be boring. Josh Brolin, meh

 

[Valka D'Ur]

Some of the cast:

Leto:

Possibly adequate. I predict I'll still prefer Jurgen Prochnow to everyone else. At least this guy couldn't be worse than William Hurt.

Stilgar:

Considering the religions practiced on Arrakis, this picture is hilarious.


I don't even know who any of these actors are.

 

[Commodore]

Forget remaking the movie, when are they going to remake Emperor: Battle for Dune?

 

[Kyriakos]

So, the trailer is released.

I don't like it.
Music is inferior to the Lynch one.
General feel seems inferior too - apart from the Vladimir Harkonnen guy, who looks interesting and is played by a good actor.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

So, the trailer is released.

I don't like it.
Music is inferior to the Lynch one.
General feel seems inferior too - apart from the Vladimir Harkonnen guy, who looks interesting and is played by a good actor.

Hm. Parts of it are better than I expected, but of course brief glimpses are never enough to be sure.

They've lifted some elements from the Lynch movie, the most obvious of which is the stillsuit design. I still think the miniseries got the stillsuits exactly right.

I do like the personal shield effect, as that's more like what I visualize when I read the novel.

The music is awful. Please let this be some generic thing they stuck in for the sake of the teaser and the real music is something spectacular, like in the Lynch movie and the miniseries.

One of my own favorite scenes, music-wise, is from the end of the Dune Messiah portion of Children of Dune when the twins are born and Alia takes revenge on the Atreides' enemies (Edric, Mohiam, the Fremen traitors, etc. while characters like Irulan and Duncan ponder the new order coming after Paul's impending death - as a blind Fremen he intends to go out into the desert to die). This is the montage of scenes accompanied by "Inama Nushif":

 

[Kyriakos]

^I only liked Vladimir Harkonnen and the Beast, from this trailer.
Disliked everything else, from the sage mother (what's her title) to the worm

Btw, The Beast Rabban is played by Dave Bautista, who is part greek ^_^

 

[Birdjaguar]

I guess it's time to re-read the book.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

Disliked everything else, from the sage mother (what's her title) to the worm

"Sage mother"? Do you mean the one with the mesh over her face?

That's Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam, of the Bene Gesserit. The needle she's holding at Paul's neck is the gom jabbar, and the poison on it will kill him instantly if he pulls his hand out of the box before she tells him to. This is how the Bene Gesserit test people to find out if they're human, rather than animals (the Bene Gesserit consider anyone who can't override instinct to be an animal).

 

[Kyriakos]

Yes. I now actually read the first chapter of Dune, though I can't say I liked it much
Basically it is the kind of writing which can be presented entirely in a film. But I never liked the omnipotent narrator anyway...

 

[Ajidica]

Basically it is the kind of writing which can be presented entirely in a film.

I'm assuming you meant to write can't be presented, as Dune is notoriously an 'unfilmable book'.
Not a fan of Chalamet as Paul Atreides, feels too weedy and too much of an eboy/softboi to be Muad'Dib, leader of the Fremen, Victor of the Plains of Arakeen, and Conqueror of House Corrino. Best Paul, for me, is Alec Newman from the miniseries. His acting in Dune was a bit spotty, but I found him quite good in Children of Dune. Shame his acting career never really took off, as IMDB shows him doing TV shows I never heard of and video games.
Reminds me that Dune miniseries had quite a good actor for Feyd (who I like better than Sting despite not being quite a memetastic) whose acting career never went anywhere.

EDIT: James McAvoy also got his his start in Children of Dune.

 

[Zardnaar]

Dune needs to be something like GoT.

Probably have tone down some of it to adapt to the screen.

Reread Fine recently. Still a good book but probably had a bigger impact in the 1960s.

 

[Estebonrober]

Looks fun to me, the worms look amazing. I'm jsut hoping for similar but deeper levels of dialogue then in the original. You guys are way too snobby imo. I like Eclipse by Pink Floyd too so I guess I'm just to square for you cool cats.