New Revolution: An Imperium Offtopicum Game

The imperialism of the Russian monarchy is sickening. We urge Hispania to allow our supply convoys through their waters so we can set medical aid to Crimea.

And your hypocrisy is astounding. How swift you are to abandon your principles when a prospective ally, no matter his political stripe (Crimea's sham democracy is surely not enough for you). Or are you attempting to set up a communist puppet?

And after all your spiel about Africa for Africans, it is interesting to see you interfere in affairs wholly involving Russians and Little Russians in Russia and Little Russia.
 
I wish Sone's professional opinion and judgement on this.



Argument settled, as per GM injunction.

I shall be detailing military campaigns later.

And another secret project of mine.
 
The Ukraine is rightfully independent. Russia's needless intervention will only cause more partisans to rise up in the countryside, with no Crimean military to keep them down.

No Crimean military, but the Russian one. Which has already proved itself much more effective than its counterpart.
 
And your hypocrisy is astounding. How swift you are to abandon your principles when a prospective ally, no matter his political stripe (Crimea's sham democracy is surely not enough for you). Or are you attempting to set up a communist puppet?

And after all your spiel about Africa for Africans, it is interesting to see you interfere in affairs wholly involving Russians and Little Russians in Russia and Little Russia.

Our case is that you are attacking Crimea. We are not amused with such violence and are setting medical supplies that will help the populace, along with additional supplies to aid the anti-colonial efforts of the Crimean government. Just because Rome is imperial does not mean we scorn it, nor do we say they had it coming when they were invaded. The Revolution states that the Russian monarchy should respect Crimea's right to be a independent nation or you will find the curse of Rasputin appearing once more.

Our supply convoys are on route and will request access through the Hispanic sea. Then they will head to the Crimea past what be the Turkish city of Istanbul. We hence hope the Greeks have honour of letting our convoys pass through. When the convoys reach the Crimea they will drop off needed civilian supplies. This will allow the Crimean to focus their resources better in their war for their independence.

We will consider further actions on how the scenes go in this play.
 
Our case is that you are attacking Crimea. We are not amused with such violence and are setting medical supplies that will help the populace, along with additional supplies to aid the anti-colonial efforts of the Crimean government. Just because Rome is imperial does not mean we scorn it, nor do we say they had it coming when they were invaded. The Revolution states that the Russian monarchy should respect Crimea's right to be a independent nation or you will find the curse of Rasputin appearing once more.

Our supply convoys are on route and will request access through the Hispanic sea. Then they will head to the Crimea past what be the Turkish city of Istanbul. We hence hope the Greeks have honour of letting our convoys pass through. When the convoys reach the Crimea they will drop off needed civilian supplies. This will allow the Crimean to focus their resources better in their war for their independence.

We will consider further actions on how the scenes go in this play.

But Rome wasn't invaded, not at first. Rome struck first. Rome also didn't go full Imperial until well into the war (or was it afterwards?).

In addition, Crimea is currently under blockade by the Russian fleet.
 
The C.U.S.S is best invited since it would ensure good talks, plus it is rather rude to not invite a key actor in the Western Sahara play. If you choose war be aware that it would be a war of your aggression against what would otherwise be a diplomatic situation. We have applied for membership at the Axis and will hence in emergency consider granting the most bordering land we have with Libya to the Romans so that we can enhance membership occurrences. Looks odd but your clear hunger for war leaves us no choice.

Oh and it will be act of dishonour if Rome were to hand the Algerian land we offer it to the French, as the French had after all attacked Rome and hence deserve not the land we offer Rome.

Why would we invite you to talks which have the main purpose of deciding whether we should invite you to a talk :p That would be silly.
 
But Rome wasn't invaded, not at first. Rome struck first. Rome also didn't go full Imperial until well into the war (or was it afterwards?).

In addition, Crimea is currently under blockade by the Russian fleet.

The conflict was based on Sicily and France's fall was uncalled for in its turning to empire.

Our ships are civilian: blocking them would be breaking of international regulations on merchant shipping.

...in second thoughts we will consider setting civilian supply planes along with the supply convoys to Crimea. However we ask Crimea to prepare for these light crafts brining light amount of goods, while the plane may refill in spots between Crimea and the C.U.S.S.

However the supply convoy will set forward. Block it and you will only provide material for your demonization o monarchy of Russia by blocking medicine to Crimea.

Why would we invite you to talks which have the main purpose of deciding whether we should invite you to a talk :p That would be silly.

When "war" is considered a legal option we would consider it important that we are at the table as oppose to being on the menu.
 
Our supply convoys are on route and will request access through the Hispanic sea. Then they will head to the Crimea past what be the Turkish city of Istanbul. We hence hope the Greeks have honour of letting our convoys pass through

First, its Constantinople, not Istanbul.
Second, its Greek city, not Turkish city.
Third, you embargo us and call us fascists, so why you now ask us to allow you to use the straits?
 
Oh, and when I said there would be a blockade... That is only strengthened by your illegal occupation of Spanish and Occitan territories.

So no, I'm not letting you aid the Crimea
 
New SS Armies created:

After the ''Greek National Socialist Volunteer Army - SS'' (ΕΕΕΣ -SS), the Greek Government has organized Turkish, Slavic and Chinese National Socialist armies. The ''Turkish National Socialist Volunteer Army - SS'', ''Slavic National Socialist Volunteer Army - SS'' and ''Chinese National Socialist Volunteer Army - SS'' have been created to support the Greek SS.

Each one of those new SS units has 10,000 fanatical troops, who will fight to the last man, will commit suicide instead of being captured and they all know Kung Fu and have elit military training.

The total strength of all three new SS units is 30,000 men and along with the 25,000 Greek SS troops, the total number of SS troops is 55,000 soldiers. The dream of Commander Papagos is to create an international SS army to fight Communism.
 
But Rome wasn't invaded, not at first. Rome struck first. Rome also didn't go full Imperial until well into the war (or was it afterwards?).

In addition, Crimea is currently under blockade by the Russian fleet.

OOC: Afterwards, take a second look at my RP

Peace at #348

Coup at #351

Newspaper at #352

Occitania however became an Empire shortly after the Roman Invasion
 
@Crimea: What does the Republic of the Crimea have to say to our offer?
 
Hear me Argentina
people's voice in your house

National election is soon to be held
Spoiler :
In the next year, people will elect new president. Current president, Camilo Torres Restrepo, has over 85% of support


Tenth anniversary of SAPR is coming
Spoiler :
And our great 5-year plan of increasing educational and cultural level of society is almost completed.


Ecological awareness increases!
Spoiler :
People of SAPR are more and more concerned with wild life and ecology problems world-wide. Not only our jungles need to be saved!


New 5-year plan for our country in preparation
Spoiler :
Archbishops, party secretaries, our president, and military leaders are preparing new 5-year plan of development. If mr Restrepo is re-elected, this plan will be set into the motion soon


War on crime
Spoiler :
Instead of conquering further teritiories, our great army concentrated its efforts on fighting crime. Over seventeen hundreds of criminals were caught and put into re-educational work camps. We proudly announce, that New Buenos is the safest place to live on Earth


International situation is getting tense
Spoiler :
Wars are fought, feuds are rising. SAPR stands away from this petty quarrels. First rule in our international policy is: stay away


SAPR is not alone
Spoiler :
Of course, that do not mean we do not have our allies. SAPR is not alone. We have signed mutual protection pacts with great nations of Australia and South Africa.


Nuclear weapons are a dire threat!
Spoiler :
Our president assures, that SAPR will declare war on any country having such weapons

 
The Second Messina Conference has concluded. The result has been this message sent to the CUSS.

Due to the CUSS's constant inability to successfully abide by or recognise the borders proposed by the First Messina Conference the signatories of said agreement are making their final offer. The CUSS has been asked multiple times to cease expansion into these areas by the Messina Conference and by other international powers yet continues to hold territory illegally inside the Messina Conference borders.
To this end the signatories of the Menissa Conference - Prime Minister Rodolfo Llopis (On Behalf of the Es Castell Treaty), Caesar Giovanni Messe (As Caesar of the Imperial Republic of Rome), Emperor Jules Ferdinand I (As Emperor of Occitania) - Hereby issue a final ultimatum to the people of the CUSS.

The Territories held by the CUSS that are within the borders proposed by the First Messina Conference should be relinquished immediately to their respective protectors.

All three Signatory nations shall receive reparations for the time and resources that the CUSS has caused to have been wasted summing up to 5 EP each.

All future CUSS plans for expansion should be made public knowledge to the world.

The Armed forces of the CUSS are to be limited to one half of their capacity.


Should any of the four conditions not be met it will result in a declaration of war from the Signatory nations and Greece against the CUSS.
This is our ultimatum, our final offer.


Martinez, looked out over the broken Madrid skyline, leaning against the railings of the half destroyed hotel he was staying in. At his side Robert Capa also leant on the railing sipping a cup of tea. As the sun slowly slid from view of the western facing balcony Martinez was moved to quote Sir Edward Grey's comment on the eve of the last great war. "The lamps are going out all over Europe, we shall not see them lit again in our time."

Capa looked up, nodded and went back to his tea.
 
The C.U.S.S would likely had been in considering of whether to "hand back" West Sahara and Algeria. That would be considered. The moment you went to demand we make our expansion public and our forces limited... it was the first that got us in argument in the first place and the latter is a no. We are a sovereign collective. We will not be violated of our sovereign right to a army and hence we will state this: French Algeria borders not our Algerian provinces, West Sahara borders borders not Hispanic Morocco and our advisors plans to hand them over peacefully has bee challenge by yourself.

The fact you wish to use Greece shows that bowing to the other three would be immoral.

The C.U.S.S purpose two options:

1) we will hand over West Sahara and the two Algerian provinces on condition that the imperialist demands of army reduction, border announcements and repayments of your greed will not be considered. We are a sovereign power and like all sovereign powers we do not accepts army reductions.

2) there is not other option other than 1.

The agreement is simple: 1 or none. We would go with 1 if we were you: it would be less greedy and less likely to draw the Axis into war.

OOC: seriously RC I know you may be... annoyed but that is overkill and fun kill at that.
 
If CUSS does not accept the demands of the Second Messina Conference , the SS will be tested for the first time against the soldiers of the sub-human Barbarians.
 
If CUSS does not accept the demands of the Second Messina Conference , the SS will be tested for the first time against the soldiers of the sub-human Barbarians.

Well in that case...

We call on Prussia and the Axis to step in on this mess to save the C.U.S.S from genocide at the hands of the Greeks.
 
We have not even declared war yet, not have we called for genocide. We just told you that you should accept the demands of the Second Messina Conference or Greece shall help the Messina allies to end your aggression.

It seems that you are very, very afraid of the SS.
 


In a completely unrelated press release, the Foreign and Defense Ministries have worked together to compile a table which simplifies what the situation would look like in the event of a war between CUSS and the Messina and Greek forces.

At face value, CUSS is outnumbered three-to-one. This is increased to four and a half-to-one if Occitania’s large conscript armies are included. The CUSS military would be thoroughly trounced on land, something greatly assisted by the fact Messina forces can now enter CUSS territory directly through Libya…

Even navally the Messina forces would enjoy great success; CUSS forces are outnumbered ten to one. CUSS ships would be sent to Davy Jones wrapped in gift paper, and the CUSS economy would collapse from a lack of trade, while Messina troops would be free to occupy the coastline at their leisure.

CUSS would lose air superiority immediately barring the occasional flak battery here or there, given that they have no air force to Messina’s four. Strategic bombing would quickly cripple the CUSS industrial base, and the military would rapidly degrade almost as fast, if not faster, than quality of life.

CUSS’ greatest strength is its economy, and it is presumed this is what CUSS politicians have hoped to fall back on. However, Messina forces have 285% more GDP than CUSS, a massive amount that will radically undercut them. Even with its highly-developed industrial base, CUSS is beaten; Messina forces can produce more than twice as many planes, ships and bullets per day than CUSS, and supply them far more effectively.

It is concluded therefore, that in the event of war, CUSS stands no chance of victory barring outside assistance.
 
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